Why do Europeans like to downplay the importance of the Pacific Theatre during WWII?

Why do Europeans like to downplay the importance of the Pacific Theatre during WWII?

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because it was shit, we were not there.

>mfw US and Australia kicked the Japanese out of the South Pacific.
>Europeans don't care about their sacrifices and courage because "they were not there"
>Continue to severely downplay the US's role in Africa and Europe too because "we aren't European"

Eurocentrism really sucks sometimes.

What are you on about? Hollywood propaganda has done its job

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Because it wasn't that important. Japan was a weak threat compared with Germany. Imperial Japan only took East Asian colonies and parts of China. They were Italy tier.

FDR could see this and he understood that victory in Europe was a priority.

>France
>8%
How effective was the French Resistance?

>Italy tier
I think you are forgetting the size of Imperial Japan.

that one is about WWI you fucking retard

>WW1
>Resistance

Anyway, the result is bullshit, well I think it's an american poll so it does not suprise me after all

Go easy I misread it. We were on the topic of WWII not WWI.

They really don't teach much about WWI here other than.
>Trenches
>Tanks
>Biplanes
>Gas
So most people probably think the US had a bigger role in WWI then it actually did.

>WW1
>France - 8%
>U.S - 43%

Even as a Bonger that's pretty disgusting.

>pacific Theater

it's just a simple progress of IJN got rekt in serial

we were outnumbered and also outskilled
after midway is practically an one sided war

whats so interesting?

Yes, they took lots of islands in the Pacific and they were useful in a way. Attack on Pearl Harbor had finally drawn the US into the conflict.

Uncle sam killed hitlor

Found the Amerifat hehe

*pokes with a stick and dances impishly around you*

ameri-FAT...ameri-FAT!

Because it was of no importance to us

>finally drawn into the conflict.
We were funding the Brits and the Russians well before 1941 when we actually deployed soldiers.

Burma is the most forgotten front desu

PLEASE let this be a shoop

Japanese tanks was sucks. The navy was good but NAVY can be bombed with biplane swordfish.
Aviation>NAVY.
NAZY army was a hellspawns from hell with super tanks and jets, it's was a mirracle what we has defeated them.

Considering the US made the first pushes back against Germany on the western and North African front AND did almost all of the fighting on the Pacific front, I think it's fair to say the US is most responsible for the victory in WWII. That isn't to underplay that the USSR was a close second because of how much fighting they did in the East.

I understand why so many Europeans say the USSR was more important to the allied victory than America, because they focus on the fighting in their home countries, but seriously, the Pacific front was a big damn deal. One could argue that it was a more destructive conflict than the war in Europe.

>its an amerifat being retarded episode

How intriguing

>Miracle
Is drawing them into a winter war, then throwing waves of bodies at them a miracle? It seems like a reasonable thing to lead to a victory.

This is some amazing bait mate

Do you have an argument?

Blitzkrieg'd of japs were about two weeks.

>funding the Russians
Until 1943 when the Soviet Union began to win the Nazis, this funding / credit was a drop in the sea.

Tigers Tanks and bombers with gas attacks. Numbers means nothing if you are dealing with devastating weapons.

Hollywood downplays the Pacific theather by not covering how Japan expanded.
It also downplays the fall of the Ottoman empire.

You can only blame yourself.

Compared to Germans Japanese were a cake, see how USSR literally steamrolled them after Germany fell.

t murican

Trying to give people history lessons is bad business. It's much easier to have stereotypes and explosions.

You can defeat anyone if you throw enough meat at them

Say this to Zulu in the face.

(Not who you're replying to)
I agree with this. Hollywood has focused on the Pacific a little more in recent years, but it's late. I have to wonder how much the former tendency to downplay the Pacific connected to racism tbqh.

And if by "downplays the fall of the Ottoman empire," you mean, 'absolutely doesn't mention it and Americans hardly know what Ottoman means,' then I agree.

We had 1/2 KD with germons not so much if you know what 1941 was

This

>Japan was a weak threat compared with Germany.
If Japan didn't have braindamage in their general leadership, they had a realistic chance at holding the pacific, and taking China.
And then winning a war with Russia.

Instead, they doomed themselved in the long term, early in the 1930s.

If that were true, Russia would never have won any battles in WWI.

It is hardly necessary to take advice from the country not hold a week.

Thats actually true

>If that were true, Russia would never have won any battles in WWI.
But we had a chance. Besides this is was time of revolution.

Hollywood is the American film industry why would they focus on the Ottoman empire which they had nothing to do with?

This can't be real.

Germany would have won WWI if our Jews haven't rebelled.

yougov.co.uk/news/2014/07/28/100-years-americans-remember-wwi/

True patriots and bravery without cold war bullshit. This is was a time.

explain the 1905 russo-japan war then

Because if you don't cover it, it doesn't exist, and it doesn't exist, a whole piece of the map longer is there.
And suddenly, its no longer a world war, but FrancoRussia versus GreaterGermania with proxies.

And that applies to both wars.

The same is even more so true for the Pacific Theater.

Then again
>Jewish Film industry
>American
No, user, its not that simple.
There is a extreme amount of German side WW2 films to cover the civilian side, to strengthen the Holocaust narrative.
But outside of that? Its weird the Jew has no love for how Turks lost Arabia.

why did japan surrender?
Because of the soviet offensive not the atomic bomb.

>this funding / credit was a drop in the sea.
Yeah seems like that....

"The United States gave to the Soviet Union from October 1, 1941 to May 31, 1945 the following: 427,284 trucks, 13,303 combat vehicles, 35,170 motorcycles, 2,328 ordnance service vehicles, 2,670,371 tons of petroleum products (gasoline and oil) or 57.8 percent of the High-octane aviation fuel,[24] 4,478,116 tons of foodstuffs (canned meats, sugar, flour, salt, etc.), 1,911 steam locomotives, 66 Diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars. Provided ordnance goods (ammunition, artillery shells, mines, assorted explosives) amounted to 53 percent of total domestic production.[24] One item typical of many was a tire plant that was lifted bodily from the Ford Company's River Rouge Plant and transferred to the USSR. The 1947 money value of the supplies and services amounted to about eleven billion dollars"

>Its weird the Jew has no love for how Turks lost Arabia.
Best ally+no love for arabs

Lawrence of Arabia is a good film

That war was pretty over after 1917.If Russians wouldn't withdraw,Austro-Hungarian Empire was pretty much over.Even Ottomans send troops to help them.I'm not even talking about the wars Germany wage for them and funding.

WHAT THE FUCK ??!!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

That's basically what japs did.

+15 rubles.

the only mentionworthy resistence movement were the yugos and the russians

the others were just annoying

Haven't you played Battlefield? The war was won by sassy black Americans from the ghetto.

Lawrence is even better.
1. British Script
2. British core actors
3. And as with many other films, because Hollywood actually has size, funding and a large core marked, its not the first movie to get over there to beg for partial funding and get it
Other prominent begging projects include Jodorowsky's Dune, a lot of smaller Euro movies.

If its one thing to respect USA for, its having a actual movie industry. And because of the cold war, said movie industry suddenly got to export to Europa.
Its a huge enterprise, with lots of money.
But deep down, Hollywood is jew gold. And its tainted and blessed by that.
There is a reason only Tom Cruise keeps pushing Sci Fi movies inside Hollywood.

No, Chinese campaign was a disaster for Japan. They could only hold coastal cities and parts of Northern China and got bogged down in a messy guerilla war. IJA had to leave a huge force in China for the remainder of the conflict.

Oddly enough the hell fighters fought mostly with the French because our white soldiers wuz racist and sheeeet.

Yeah at the end of the Game Jamal gets a French wife,

Kek. Are you serious?

>1941 - 1945
Now find 1941 - 1943, and then look for how much was produced in the USSR during the same time.

Yeah, basically they're cool black lads but white Americans are racist so they fight with French lads and the French are not racist. At the end of the war Jamal stays in France because they like not being treated badly, it has a montage that includes him marrying at white woman.

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>No, Chinese campaign was a disaster for Japan.
Are we talking about the same thing? The core problem with China is that landing was easy.
Expanding inwards required effort, while Japan tried to take over the Pacific Ocean.
And then they picked a fight with America, draining them of any manpower that could have been spent for the 1-2 decades it would take to conquer China.

China wasn't a disaster in any way
As much as it was invaded in 1937, and China was supported by its Proxy allies for the sake of Hong Kong(and more), it was fine.
It just lacked time.

Our first shipments to Russia occured in late 1941. They were less than 5% of the weaponry until 1943.

Is the game fun at least?

Japan is our ally and they aren't white so their genocidal imperialism gets a free pass in Hollywood.

Loving it but the story mode is a bit short. It is a multiplayer game though so its fine.

>whats so interesting?
Bloodthirsty and atrocity of japanese soldiers cannot compare to even nazis. Japs was weak but we and americans have to deal with monsters in human flesh.

And very little of that was before mid-1942.

The Japanese had 1937-1940 with only China to face. The Japanese then willingly joined the war against Europeans in mid-1940.
Not until January 1942 did the US and Japan begin major campaigns.

Historical consensus is that the Japanese were stonewalled in China by 1939 and strategically lost by mid-1941.

This was before any major foreign involvement in the conflict.

Could be because until June of 1941 they were allied with Germany and annexing their neighbors.

*fap fap fap*

1937? Still proxies.
>Historical consensus is that the Japanese were stonewalled in China by 1939 and strategically lost by mid-1941.
Doesn't change anything. China by themselves was unable to fight back in a meaningful way.
Lack of industry, supply chains and technology simply meant it was so.
No ifs or buts.
That Japan would have taken China by 1945 if left alone? I highly doubt it.
By 1950? Maybe.

Assuming they didn't give up, they would have.
Its that simple.

Besides Japan researched a biological weapons. Who knows what happened if they are succeeded. Maybe pandemia of the super virus with zombies lol.

>And then winning a war with Russia.
lol they were btfo by the Soviets before and after, so they didn't dare to attack.

Because they're not Pacificans

When did the Soviet get a real Navy, and how would they manage to ignore the Ice that stops Soviet from having a real Navy?

My impression was always that Soviet Navi was some complete shit until they won WW2, grabbed some non polar land, and finally stopped being shit.

There were some European colonies, sure, but it was mainly an American problem. Maybe the British disagree, but the majority of Europe had little influence and stake in the region.

>downplay
we dont even learn about it 2bh
and why would be, there's too much already to learn with europe being the epicenter and that

you just confused the it with your fleet

did 10 million US soldiers die in the pacific theatre?no, just 400 000 during the whole war? Well then now, that's why alot of people don't care about it as much.
(guys in the pic are Germans in Stalingrad btw)

>NAZY army was a hellspawns

Takes one to know one. East Europe became a torrent of rape and ethnic cleansing after Stalingrad was won. I'm amazed no one treated Stalin-era Russia as just as shitty, instead our Leftist groups of pre-cafe latte faggots idolized the man in the 70s.

Because soviet navi was river/sea. Russia don't need blue water fleet

kek, i think maybe thats the real reason

Hey no one are perfect but it was nazis and japs who started it, also we are actually shooted in judged criminals in our army.

>but the majority of Europe had little influence and stake in the region.
Hong Kong
China
Burma
India
All the fucking Colonial Islands
Spice Trade
Rare Metals

There was stakes. If there wasn't a World War in Europa, the proxy war would have been bigger.

It had no relevance.

Guess who this guys is

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji_Ishiwara

Now guess what he said in 1940.

You are the biggest pro-America poster on this board, and your bias is clearly showing.

ITT: Arseblasted yurocucks
Too proud to admit USA saved half the continent from communism, while simuntaneously making Japan its bitch.

I mean, until 1960 with the Defense Treaty, we treated Japanese like filthy backstabbing jews.
Just look at any movie or tv show or book in America before that.

Then in 1960 the US government started censoring that stuff and our popular media shifted its view.

But the big change happened in the late 60's when our media began demonizing anything European/white. Also, the jewish influence in America grew during these years.
That's why we have 5 times more Nazi/Jew movies than Japan/US movies. I can't even remember the last movie about the US/China alliance in WW2.

We are richer than the Easterneuros but for the price of our societies and culture that cuck themselves to death.

Brillitant guy who got fucked over in a honourable way?
I am just glad his wikipedia page links to Hideki Tojo, so I got to see where the Jap face is from.