What music do actual intellectuals listen to? Not pseudo-intellectual fedora garbage like prog rock and jazz...

What music do actual intellectuals listen to? Not pseudo-intellectual fedora garbage like prog rock and jazz, but genuine intellectual music.

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no music, too busy reading

classical

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Great band I must be an intellectual then

I feel like if I told you, you'd just pretend to listen to it to seem like an intellectual

>intellectuals
>pic of Christopher Hitchens

I know you're baiting. In my opinion, ''intellectual'' people mainly listen to classical music. Could you please enlighten us all by telling us what exactly is wrong with prog rock and jazz?

Entry-tier music
Intellectuals are too busy to dig for real good music.

If you're interested in what hitchens listened to, then the answer is Bob Dylan

Everything. No smart person would limit themselves to classical only, pop only or just folk.

Whatever the fuck they want, I imagine.

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Prog-rock and jazz musicians both try too hard to make art, and intellectuals do not try too hard. Jazz and prog-rock are both pseudo-intellectual, sweaty genres for people who think they are smart. Baroque pop is the genre of intellectuals.

all music is for pseuds tbf
true intellectuals listen to noise.

THIS

IDM

i mean intelligent is in the name so you know it's good

lol not at all. if anythong many albums of those genres can be called "lazy".

take one of my favourites wish you were here by pink floyd. you could say that shine on could be made into a 5 minute song instead of a two parts long song.
same with jazz.

prog doesnt try-too-hard on principal. there are albums where it does happen though.

>Intellectual people
>Pop
Sigh...

lul

double lul

Intellectuals realize music is inherently mere consumerist trash with little merit so they listen to pop, as it's the one that's most pleasing and fun.

I think you've misunderstood what baroque pop is by focusing on the word pop. It is a fusion of classical and rock music that makes for modern music with layered and varied instrumentation. The best example is Pet Sounds. Common instruments are big band instruments, like brass and string sections, timpanis, harpsichords, oboes, etc.

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>Pet Sounds.
Let's laugh even louder.

Whatever they want to listen to
You don't have to like or dislike certain genres to be an intellectual

>Jazz
>Lazy
You do realize that jazz is extremely technically complex? That doesn't make a genre of music ''good'', but jazz musicians have a great knowledge of their instruments, technique and music theory. You have to also realize that jazz and prog for that matter aren't exactly commercially oriented genres. Musicians are proficient in what they do because of their love of art and instruments. It's not like jazz is suddenly going to become ''popular'' and people are trying to get on the bandwagon. And how exactly is trying to be the best at what you do in life a point of criticism?

I think my spleen is about to rupture something just doesn't feel right

the stooges

>Coltrane
>Thelonious Monk
>Sonny Rollins
>"Trying Too Hard"
>shiggy you suck bro

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People that think music taste correlates with intellectual status are compensating pseuds.. classical and others like it were mostly listened to "smart people" because of cultural standing. There are some more complex types of music, but dismissing other more inferior but enjoyable forms simply because you have this preconceived notion of it being "dumb" makes you the inseure pseud.

My whole family has a 4.0 and is going into the medical field, sister plays violin, brother piano, I the guitar, but we still like "dumb pop" like taylor swift or whatever else as much as "smart stuff' like classical. If you're REALLY this concerned over what is "Smart music" or not, you are dumb and compensating heavily.

You talk about compensating pseuds but feel the need to post your family's gpa on an anonymous message board. Hmm

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You both get it

I bet you like radio classical.

I don't think intellectual people enjoy mediocrity, but sadly, some definitely do.

For a rough idea. Contrary to liberal "individualist' beliefs, education and your career path speak highest of your intellect, not what you consume for entertainment.

I don't listen to the radio much, but when I do it's usually local ones (pop)

You can appreciate something's complexity without forcing yourself to enjoy it if you don't. Only underages think complex=automatically enjoyable if you're le smart man xD

Pop/pop rock
There's more complexity in a well-written pop song than any other genre. Pop also takes the most skill to make

Pop takes the most skill?
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>these videos
Holy kek
Fedora detected

>Using xD and le
>Opinion discarded
You don't have to listen to Mingus or Coltrane. However, there are many ''complex'' artists to choose from. For example: youtu.be/vmDDOFXSgAs

Your arguments are: kek, fedora... You sure showed me and definitely rebutted my claims.

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>smart people listen to x type of music
Anybody that tells you this is a fucking retard.

The thing about music is that you can have beautiful complex pieces with lots of instrumentality or an almost mathematically written piece that sounds good, yet the simplicity of certain pieces can be intelligent in itself.

I still believe taste is subjective, but i agree with what you mean about just listening to what you personally find the most pleasing and fun.

>unironically linking Stevie T

You are such a disgusting human being

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this thread is either smart people listen to everything or smart people listen to x, x and x. The smartest guy i know is incredibly picky, like only eats pizza and soylent kind of picky and he only really likes the bleeps, he may tolerate other things, but he likes what he likes. And there are plenty of intellectual folks with a wider variety of tastes. intellect and taste are not connected.

ps, no one "listens to everything" especially not the folks sayin' smart people do in this thread

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the vast majority of people here dislike reading your posts

you're being selfish and that's not OK

Why are any of you even on this board then? If this is truly what you believe, why are you devoting any of your precious time (and I mean that) to a board completely dedicated to something you are indifferent to?

>"Music tastes and intellect aren't related."
>"Why are you even here if you're indifferent?!"

Has there ever been a worse parallel?

kys

>we are wealthy
>we are therefore intellectuals
my dude your taste is not only poor but you are horribly insincere. you are a pseud.

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>music tastes and intellect aren't related
I never necessarily said this.

They never said they were, or trying to be intellectuals.

I know for a fact that you have never seen a woman's vagina or kissed one's lips and I am glad for it

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Ween.

No shit Sherlock, but all the posts you quoted implied that, and it's quite true.

Apparently Von Neumann would listen to German marching music as loud as possible.

D E A T H G R I P S
But seriously tho probably Krautrock and ambient

bobby fischer was really into the beatles

They listen to whatever the fuck they want because they're too busy thinking about more important things than dissecting how highbrow their music is. And hip-hop.

Broadway and Classical in addition to whatever is played on the radio.

do u spend a lot of time thinkin' about what i do with my partners?

>doesn't like pet sounds
oh, ok. opinion discarded.

noise is music you fuck.

>Medical field
>thinks he's an intellectual

There's no strong correlation between music and "intelligence," despite what that meme chart (which is more satire than anything else) might suggest.

"Well, Einstein and a bunch of other intellectuals from philosophers to scientists in that era were classical fans."

So was everybody else in the world at that time. Go to any thrift store and 90% of the records are classical.

Taste of some modern scientists, writers, philosophers, etc.

Hawking: Favorite song, "Have I Told You Lately," by Rod Stewart.

Richard Feynman (liked to play drums): African bongo music.

DeGrasse-Tyson: Jazz, Soul, Van Morrison.

Physicist Sean Carroll: Jazz, Blues, Nick Cave

Chomsky: Swing music.

Kurt Vonnegut: Beatles.

Pynchon: Referenced everything from Free Jazz, to Rock, to Swing in his books.

Foster-Wallace: REM, Nirvana, Hip-Hop

Garcia-Marquez: Beatles

Murakami: Beach Boys

>christopher hitchens
>actual intellectual

This
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>sweaty

No, lots of Jazz is lazy

actual smart people listen to "indie" rock

They probably don't have time for music

genuine intellectual here

I mostly listen to ambient

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intellectuals listen to bach fugues while following along with the score and soaking up the voice leading and invertible counterpoint, stretto, imitation, sequences, etc.

>Einstein and a bunch of other intellectuals from philosophers to scientists in that era were classical fans."
>So was everybody else in the world at that time
lol nope. people in the 50s like swing and shitty jazz popular music.

Classical has always been pretty underground. Only time it was really "mainstream" was 18th century with opera and lieder

>noise elitist
kek

Stockhausen / Ferneyhough, composer noise > Merzbow, etc popular music noise

They listen to musique.

Top 40 garbage they are usually to busy doing other things. Anyone who says otherwise is either a pseudo-intellectual promoting there favourite genre or some idiot who places classical or jazz as the best genre even through he doesn't even listen to it that much.

Calling Jazz musicians "try hard, not intellectual"......

You clearly dont play an instrument...
And thats my problem with 80% of this board, yall think yall know everything bout music but cant even play an instrumental, can tell the harmonies of Songs and shit like that.

Thats why you all hang around here.

Triggered.

it's funny people falling for this and acting as if its bait when poptimism has been one of the driving forces in musical journalism for years now.

you could make a pretty strong argument that music critics care more about beyonce, swift and sufjan rather than rush and primus.

No you fucking retard Pet Sounds isn't Baroque Pop

(You)
Great arguments once again.

This is mainly why this board went to shit. The only people in my circle of friends who listen to jazz for example are all musicians. Being a musician ''expands'' your ears and makes you interested in more genres. It's almost as if it is impossible to listen to jazz or prog for example, let alone appreciate it, if you're not a musician.

>thinking playing an instrument give you more refined music tastes
I learnt music theory and how to play piano a few years ago and it completely destroyed most of my love of music. Once you start thinking of music in mathematical terms it loses its emotion.

Don't make the same mistake I did.

Then you did something wrong

It's not that. Music theory isn't a collection of rules and shouldn't be looked at like that. It's about providing you with a greater knowledge of music you're listening to, along with expanding your interests in music. You will find even the most technically simple pieces of music inspiring and interesting. I don't think you had the right approach and that's why you feel like that.

intellectual isn't defined by what, intellectual is defined by *how*. wearing a white coat doesn't make you a doctor, you have to know that the coat shows off how clean you are, and also know how to do medicine. the coat is important tho.

intelligent people doesn't listen to music

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Yes

Lots of them dont have a particular interest in music and those that do probably steer towards jazz and classical because of the social circles they move in

>Hop on Sup Forums to find a prog thread and ask what people think of the new Thank You Scientist album
>this is the only thread with Prog in the OP
>calls me fedora wearing pseudo-intellectual

Fuck man I just think it's fun and enjoyable to listen to, what's with all the armchair psychology on this board? Anyways what do you all think of the new Thank You Scientist album? youtube.com/watch?v=dv1ypynSLzY