Would Algeria...

Would Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia be Mediterranean in culture if they were christian and Arabs didn't go there (Mostly Berber and Greek people)?

pretty much, i think you could say the same for levants

Yes, arguably they might even be considered a for practical purposes part of Europe and their position might have even allowed them to become great powers, especially if they had been advanced enough to participate in the age of discovery.

Pathetic thread OP

Of course. They'd be viewed the same as Spain

Morocco only had one explorer in age of discovery (Ibn Battuta).
I wish we had more and we colonized land, it would be cool seeing non-Berbers speaking Berber.
Yeah, So Lebanon is Med?

>being Medterrenian in culture

yes

Your """country""" is pathetic
Why did my region convert to Islam ffs.

Not really!

In what aspect?

Not as pathetic as your sad attempt of trying to fit in by negating your past instead of working on your country's future.

In terms of culture,yours would be an oriental one.

I'm studying in Uni wtf can I do?
Though Christians in Algeria arose from 100K to 500k in 2014

>I'm studying in Uni wtf can I do?
Aren't you the vet fag?


>Though Christians in Algeria arose from 100K to 500k in 2014
lel, I remember when wiki warrior did this thread

being christian =/= being western e.g. sub saharan Africa

Yep.

Be civilised, embrace Christianity.

Yeah, we are talking an hypothetical non Arabized North Africa with much stronger Vandal and maybe even Visigoth influence. As things turned out I'm glad Islam never got a foothold in the Americas other than the Guyanas.

As for Lebanon no, Christian Levantines are largely ethnic meds but they're culturally Arab. Arab culture is actually pretty cool when it's free from Islam, but the Ottomans and later the French/Brits made sure Lebanon would become Islamized during the 19th-20th century so they're now as med as Turks.

I wish I could marry a beautiful, blue-eyed, dark haired, tanned Algerian girl who'd love make and make Chakhchoukha for me every day while I enjoy the susnhine and work as a berber history researcher.

But Sub-Sahran Africa have no contact with the west, and I'm talking about being Mediterranean.
And no I'm a Medfag.
Our Cuisine is Mediterranean.
Most people are Olive skin.
Buildings are like pic related.
Berbers have been around Med. since 2000 BCE
Music is string-based
Weather is Mediterranean in Atlas mount. with temperate areas.

Looks comfy

Would colonize and kill natives again

No.

I'm born protestant and I am culturally one (Atheist when it comes to scientific beliefs)
If you're White you can get one easily
Alright then, I understand.

we shouldn't expect people to do something that will be seen as betraying their recent ancestors.

unless they're able to rationalise it as returning to their old ancestors ways pre islamic conquest, which isn't likely.


we should expect them to lose religiousness and embrace western values while still keeping muslim cultural heritage the way europeans aren't very religious but still feel a part of christian cultural heritage by doing christmas and singing carols, getting married in churches , christening babies and maybe going to an easter church service.


elimination of islam is not necessary if it can be subverted and made weaker via education and modern convenience, the way christianity has.

t. Pan-shit
Ultra Nationalism is shitty
That pepe is nice though.

fucking moors, no , you are shit

You are moor though.

>we shouldn't expect people to do something that will be seen as betraying their recent ancestors

lmao

Our ancestors were proud christians, now we're atheist (I'm agnostic)

They were proud to be white, now it's almost a crime and everybody is a pro-multiculturalism leftard

They were proud of our culture, now, young Frenchlen use arabic words because "datz cul" and eat fucking kebabs

So...yea.

Morisco**

Dunno if I'm white. I mean I got gray(with a bit of green) eyes, brown/blond mixed beard with mostly brown hair(with some blond stripes).

I don't think that qualifies me for white in Europe but I'm quite close so maybe one day I can get a cute wife I will love(like from your picture) that can cook lobia or chtit'ha and dance those beautiful oriental dances you have.

You are white by MENA standards.

North African admixture in Spain is around 10% for the higher estimates and that's not all Moorish, it leaves out Phoenicians/Carthaginians having a pressence for far longer and not being looked at in the hostile terms Iberians adopted during reconquista.

I've got nothing against North Africans and I'll even acknowledge some degree of kinship but this dumb fuck Moor meme is never going to make you friends amongst Spanish speaking peoples.

If being white means having blue eyes and blonde hair, then not a lot of people are white.

t. pale skin, hazel eyes and brown hairfag

I know I'm memeing memes aren't supposed to be true.
Moors are not common in Maghreb though since little amount of people is mixed with Spanish blood.

> Would Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia be Mediterranean in culture if they were christian and Arabs didn't go there (Mostly Berber and Greek people)?

Would christianity survive at all in Europe without the exterior threat of islam? Maybe the mongols would have won over the whole of euroasia and made us all tengrist. Nobody knows.

I have Pale-Olive skin, Hazel eyes and Dark brown hair.

North Africans should try to revitalize their traditional heritage and do away with Arabian and Islamic crap that was forced on them by conquest.

I don't mean go all Nazi and genocidal, but traditional celebrations, dishes, language, and less Islamism.

Yes, basically just look at Sicily or Malta or Spain and they'd be similar

I consider Maronites to be white and closer to Mediterranean/Westerners than Middle Easterners

This really.

Oh, that's nice. Gets my hopes up for a dream come true. Maybe next vacations I'll go to Algeria, don't wanna be rude to locals and behave like taking their women away but I hope they can understand that sometimes a man has a dream about a Algerian wife and food.

I'm more like pink, not super white skin but healthy pink. The non-white future that makes me the saddest is that I'm getting a bit ginger with age. My darker hair on beard and head are starting to be ginger-y. Scary.

Algeria is shit to go to as a tourist though, maybe try going to Morocco because it's more designed for tourism.

It's cool man, out of curiosity, we see as Moors the darker skinned Islamic peoples from North Africa, if I understand correctly "Morocco" and "Mahgreb" are related term, you people don't see yourselve as Moors?

From what I can gather most people either look at themselves as Arabs or Berbers, the latter being the natives and now largely a minority, I wonder if you can clarify.

>Improve Education
>Improve Infrastructure
>Establish Secular laws
>End corruption

>"Naaah, another sand god will sure make us civilized"

Once a nigger always a nigger

Moors are like Mestizos. They are half-Spanish half Arab/Berber. Morocco's name in Arabic is Maghreb which means west.
The Natives (Amaizgh/Berbers) are growing because Arabs are Migrating towards Europe and because some Natives used to identify as Arab during the Socialist period to not get killed.

No. Arabs = niggers.

I was in Morocco. I didn't like it as much as I think I will like Algeria.

The belly dancer were really flirty which I did not like and all the morrocan people at the hotel there wanted to behave like some westerners from a 90ties tv show.

>Moors are like Mestizos. They are half-Spanish
no lol, what are you talking about?

t.Doesn't know what I'm talking about

THIS.YES!!!
WTF I love Palestine now!

Enlighten me

read this we dont care your shit moor, you are the main enemy of Spain, stay out lad

I'm pretty sure they are either that or either half-Arab-half-Amazigh
Ok then, when do you plan to go though?

thanks man, and yeah this I think Mahgerbis and Levantines would be looked at in a much different light if they weren't so strongly associated with Arabs/Islam.

I'm talking about culture in this thread, not infrastructure.
I've been to Spain twice though.

mate we are celts and iberians thats is all, your are shit like your skin.

Next year. It's winter now and I need to plan. No trips without planning, I don't want to end up like in Egypt on a desert near the Israeli border left by a guides who wanted bribe which I didn't give.

those degradations are obviously far less obvious betrayals than converting to a foreign religion would be.

WTF FREEPALESTINE NOW !!! :D

si se les ve a los putos moros en España que son africanos que estan contando este puto moro de que son medio Españoles, lo que hay que leer...putos moros de mierda.

>not realizing culture is a socioeconomic product
amazing

>I've been to Spain twice though.
and? you are like a moroccan, our main enemy in Spain

So you aren't Meds, you are Germanics?
I advise you to go like this
Tlemcen -> Oran -> Tipaza -> Algiers/Blida -> Bejaia -> Annaba
but you find what's good for you

>So you aren't Meds, you are Germanics?
no but i am not a moor

Well, yea, saying fuck off to the religion of your ancestors is better than converting to Islam, I guess.

People weren't bad to me. (Some Anglo tourists thought I'm Spanish and started speaking shitty Spanish at me)
So Palestine has no culture?

this

fucking guiris LEAVE THE COUNTRY

>People weren't bad to me. (Some Anglo tourists thought I'm Spanish and started speaking shitty Spanish at me)
keep lying moor

Iberians were germanic barbarians who settled there after collapsing western roman empire.

No I'm not. I was in Almeria.

becoming an atheist or less-religious doesn't even imply loss of cultural identity,

It's perfectly possible to still participate in and value parts of religious culture like christmas, easter, weddings, christenings, funerals, carols and appreciate the importance that christianity had in forming your nation's history and cultural identity, while not believing in God or not caring much about practicing the faith dutifully.

Now? Yeah, we are producing next to nothing when it comes to culture.

You can just stop at nothing.

>I was in Almeria.
spanairds in almeria are tanned , Almeria is a fucking desert mate, what can you expect about that?

At least I am not in denial about it :^)

Idk
We produce Merguez and Rai Music

Kek, Cheb Khaled is the Beethoven of NA

Top quality culture you have there m8

Not Beethoven I didn't say Rai music is that good.
And your gay culture is just a man blowing in a bagpipe and other men holding hands and screaming until you're finally done so you can bang fireworks next to Israel.

FUCKING MOORS
FUCKING MOORS

moroccan inmigrants are invaders , go back to your desert, VIVA FRANCO y VIVA ESPAÑA

I'm not Moroccan. and well if you have Moroccans you get cheap weed and whores.

Spain is many peoples, the peninsula was originally inhabited by native Western Europeans of which the Basque are probably the largest surviving group, it was later strongly colonized by Celts (who are not Germanics) and these Celt-Iberians had some amount of influence from Phoenicians, later it was Romans who mixed in and latinized the peninsula and finally Germanic peoples, the Visigoths, many of the more common surnames in the peninsula are in fact Germanic in origin.

Mediterranean just refers to a general type for peoples with largely shared history (eg Southern France and Italy) but it doesn't mean say Greeks, Levantines and Iberians are a single people despite some exchanges.

Calma hombre, conozco bien España y he visitado Marruecos, claro que hay diferencias. al user algeriano solo esta explicando el punto de vista de ellos que es interesante conocer, aparentemente para ellos son solo moros los que fueron expulsados de la peninsula, obviamente eso es distinto de nuestra historia y como los vemos a ellos.

>if you have Moroccans you get cheap weed and whores.
shitty inmigrants , being honest with you

I didn't try to defend our ""culture"" I already know how shitty it is. But you are still not getting the point, the way you are approaching this is wrong. Better education equals better writers, better musicians, better artists and better scientists which are going to create something of a unique identity which belongs to your society, and that is the correct way of turning your country into a respectable one instead of making memes about how if you embraced someone's else culture you'll suddenly become worthy of respect, it is just pathetic.

typical moor face

I know that feel. We have some in Algeria too and they're shitty with their nationalism.
Oh I thought Celts were like Germanics

Celts are people like the Welsh or the "black" Irish, the type is common in the UK, the women tend to be dark haired but very pale

Mediterranean? Yes
European? No

es que es facil reconocerlos cuando vas por la calle, nosotros somos morenos pero tenemos una mezcla celta/iberica/cartagena y judia importante entonces si ves aun moro por la calle es facilisimo diferenciarlo de nosotros, diciendo que somos mezcla con ellos es uina gran mentira...nosotros nos mezclamos en AMERICA con la poblacion por ejemplo tu pais es de origen mestizo

Colin farrel is black irish too,

Is Morocco homophobic?

Yeah, pretty much Brits that look med, there's also clets in France, Italy and parts of Germany, it's what makes Western Euros distinct from Slavs or Nordics

Are Gingers Celts?
Gov. yes
People Depends

I'm not sure how they're related tbqh, they seem to be more common in the UK than anywhere else but whether that's Germanic or Celtic or maybe even related to native Britons, I couldn't say, it's not that uncommon elsewhere in Europe tho, I'm myself a ginger beard and leaving aside the meme 1/16th Irish basically Iberian. In your region of the world I think the red hair in Berbers is generally associated with Vandals who were Germanic peoples.

Look at my face Spanish counts

That s what an untainted moor look like

Cunts Dam autocorrect

Yes. What a stupid question.

the same thing

True, this is why most people who look white are in the east of Algeria(Place of Vandal settlement).

Yes, but they are filthy Muslims so no.

Bad eyes I see

Here is another

I m on the right

mate you are a moor as shit, noby in spain looks like that