>tfw you share a board with people who hate this album or don't think its the greatest album of this decade
Tfw you share a board with people who hate this album or don't think its the greatest album of this decade
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I do not hate this album, but I hate the person who 'made' it.
why?
It's ok.
He takes credit as 'primary artist' despite not programming beats or composing the music. He has a sub-par voice, but is a moderately good rapper. He just takes credit for something he didn't really do. I also do not like his lyrics, because they are often about systemic racial oppression, which does not exist in the country he lives in.
If you are telling me that he is not the primary artist. When he thought out the album concept, poetry part of the album and the lyrics and i also imagine that he worked with the producers together.
>which does not exist in the country he lives in
lol
The primary artist is the person is the person who composed the music. You don't call Tony Asher the primary artist of Pet Sounds (yes, I know he only interpreted Brian's ideas). Also, you did not provide for me any reason to believe that there is racial oppression in America.
Not even his best album
You're a fucking moron if you're from the USA and think that doesn't exist in our country. Who gives a fuck about his voice he's the best rapper of our generation and that's undisputable
KEK A DOODLE DOO
There is no need for ad-hominems. I still have not been provided a reason for believing such a thing.
>I still have not been provided a reason for believing such a thing
That's because it's fucking obvious
Provide me with a reason to believe that you have hands
Literally this
You're clearly white
It is really very clearly not as obvious as the fact that I have hands. Your evidence for my hands is that I have typed this response to you quickly.
You do realize that a huge chunk of albums credited to an individual artist have significant assist from collaborators. Like, yes Kendrick didn't do 100% of the work to make this album. And yes it would be awesome if Terrance Martin, Thundercat, etc. got more credit for their roles in making this album what it is. But you're a moron if you think Kendrick isn't the most important architect of this album
I'm guessing you have no idea about hip hop if you think the rapper is not the primary artist.
I am white. I do not know why this is bad or relevant.
Is pretty good but is no Master Of Puppets
If police shooting unarmed black civilians isn't enough proof for you, than you typing up replies is not enough proof for me.
Why do people keep calling me a moron? I just think that music is really the artistry.
It's a great album, and undeniably one of the top 5 hip hop albums of the current decade. But to say it's the best album of the entire decade would mean you exclusively listen to rap.
Police literally shoot more unarmed white civilians.
>greatest album of this decade
But user
This Decade still has 4 more years
I'll decide the greatest one when it's 2020
You can't be that fucking stupid dude, you have no perspective of how police are to minorities
>cops don't randomly stop me to harass me and possibly kill me it must not happen to anyone else
fucking off yourself man
Kendrick turned me black
The primary artist is the composer, and there are no exceptions.
Police shoot unarmed white people more often, even when you account for population, but then you also have to control for the crimes that blacks commit so often. Even still, police have to shoot people that they suspect of being a danger to themselves or others.
Give one more album that is better than this. Its number 1 of 2010 on gym across genres and there are plenty of people who listen to all genres and call this the best album of this decade
>implying the percentage of said race in America doesn't correlate to the rate of unarmed police murders of said race
There are more white people in america
>even when you account for population
[citation needed]
Please do not insult me for having a rational stake in an argument. Cops do not 'randomly stop' blacks, and no amount of anecdotal evidence could actually prove that that is some sort of epidemic.
Here's one that came out this year.
Why, whenever we talk about this album, why does it always come down to a stupid conversation about race politics. That's not even what a lot of this album is about. The real emotional meat of this album, and most of the lyrical content as well, stems from the phrase "What the fuck do I do with all this money?" And at the end he realizes "I'm gonna do some good with my celebrity status and help the city and community that raised me."
Respectable but no.
And there are more violent black crimes.
U my hero T
No it's that you being white is bad, it's that discrediting other people's experiences out of hand because you haven't seen "enough evidence" to believe them kind of makes you seem like a smug prick
Oh, but no citation is needed for the blacks being shot while unarmed more. Really? Also, remember to control for the violent crimes which blacks commit far more often than any other race. There is a reason that you do not see Asians killed by police often, and it is that they do not often commit violent crime, and when they are pulled over by police, which they rarely are, they cooperate.
I disagree.
Yes they do, they even plant drugs and guns on them. Look it up man quit being so fucking oblivious, everyone itt thinks you're either a moron or baiting
The government consists of white people so no. White people commit more crimes.
Well, assuming that someone's accusations against another person is true is called 'guilty until prven innocent' and it kind of makes you a dickhole, because that kind of thinknig ruins people's lives and encourages false accusations. Also, anecdotal evidence is not proper substantiation.
Could it be that maybe, just fucking maybe, the reason blacks commit more crimes is because they are brought up in less than optimal environments and therefore are more likely to take risks in crime.
So you admit you have no citation?
Why, bc you want to believe that?
But user, personal anecdotes are the weakest type of evidence, empirically speaking. You need facts and data to support your argument.
That is an appeal to popularity fallacy. If you were to take a sample of opinions from another board or place on the internet or in the real world, the opinions would vary greatly, as this board is fairly left-wing.
>they even plant drugs and guns on them
[citation needed] Two can play that game, bud.
off the top of my head
>My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
>Innerspeaker
>m b v
>Congratulations(MGMT)
Oops, you forgot to control for population. People usually do that kind of think per capita, silly.
That's definitely a part of the problem. If black children grew up in stable neighborhoods, with responsible fathers, and mothers that didn't leech off of the system, they wouldn't resort to crime so often.
>He takes credit as 'primary artist' despite not programming beats or composing the music
I'm assuming you're new to hip hop.
He's the driving force of the entire fucking album. He had full creative control over it. It doesn't matter if he gathered other talents to help him produce it. He also wrote all of the lyrics, when provide the most important parts of the album.
I don't even understand why you're singling out Kendrick as if hardly any musicians or artists do this. By that logic, film directors are never the "primary artist" of the films they direct because they have others doing most of the work for them, despite the fact that they are the ones that more or less have complete control over what those people do.
It's fucking common sense, they know they won't get caught bc it's their word against a "criminal" to the jury
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Well, if there is no evidence behind the testimony of a criminal, then the cop cannot be charged. That is how our justice system works, and for good reason. If people were guilty until proven innocent, then all people would be in jail.
Also, one story of a cop planting evidence is anecdotal and minimal, so it is not nearly enough to prove that there is systematic racial oppression in the United States.
Back to supporting Hilary
Stop siding with the niggers and face to truth dick heads
great argument
Dude, it's Sup Forums, being called a moron is fairly tame here.
More to the point, To Pimp a Butterfly is fairly obviously an album that lives for it's lyrics and message; the compositional/production elements of it are important (and frequently awesome), but they are supplemental to the artistic vision contained in the lyrics.
Your insistence on applying a standard of
>the primary artist is the person who composed the music
to this particular album, while not entirely unreasonable, feels very "square peg round hole". Not all musical styles are judged by the same standards, and your argumentational style is out of touch with how most people engage with the music in a way that makes people inclined to call you a damn moron.
Hope that helps :)
If they plant them then they're in the criminals possession now you fucking moron then they get charged, one person can't be so fucking stupid I'm out I can't deal with these fucking dumb white people
I think its good, but there's definitely some pretty low points on this album
You niggers always bring up race, race has nothing to do with it if you dress poorly and drive a shitty car (most blacks do) then your more likely to get pulled over.
""""""Criminals"""""
>dumb white people
Could you please stop? I've not called you a dirty nigger or a smelly spic. Also, I was making the point that the cops must first be proven guilty. Your argumentation is highly hypothetical, thus the 'if'.
ITT: Faggots
That argument doesn't work. That's like claiming that a directors vision is mute because of the film staffs role in the movie-making process.
>you niggers
>race has nothing to do with it
I'm Hispanic, white faggot have fun with you're 4 inch dick, "most" you sound so fucking stupid saying that bc yes you can see every single black person in the world and have concluded that most fit those descriptions off yourself please
I really like TPAB but it's far from the greatest album of the fucking decade lmao
Fuck off Pablo and get on your side of the wall
>4 inch dick
How can you try to combat something that you have perceived as being racist by being racist.
You're stupid the only people who end up in jail are niggers you don't find rich black people in jail. If anything blacks have it easier they get pampered through school and get into college easier
Born here stay mad chump
Not racist at all literally a fact, but don't beat yourself up too much atleast y'all aren't as small as Asians
Holy fuck you are deluded.
Actually, that is a myth. It is one of the few incorrect stereotypes. What is a fact, and is not racist, is that blacks, followed by Hispanics, commit the most violent crimes by far.
you are literally a racist fucking idiot.. do you truely believe what you just posted? cause that shit would be embarrassing.., i cant believe i share a planet with such a dumb fuck.. you must be a disappointment to your family
You're a lazy manlet get a job and stop bitching about being oppressed spics have it harder than blacks so I see your frustration your place in our society is doing the jobs the white man won't take
>born here
being born in the back of a home depot doesnt really count wetback
It's really not I knew you wish it was bc y'all girls always leave bc 4 inches is a joke, which is why y'all come on Sup Forums to let you're racist jealousy out, it's not a secret man
Blacks have it worse you dumbfuck
You do realize that insult means nothing to me bc I'm from here, holy fuck you're retarded.
It's a solid 8. Nothing more 2bh
There is no scientific evidence to support the claim that blacks have larger penises, or that whites and Asians have small penises. This is a myth that is perpetuated by pop-culture and is gleefully accepted by black men, obviously. My penis is not four inches, and even if it were, I could just lower my standard in women. In before, "Oh, I know. Your penis is shorter than four inches.".
Explain what was wrong. If a black shows an ounce of interest in school instead of being a nigger he will get better grades it's been proven.
Spanish average dick size is 5 inches. The only south american countries with average dicksize higher then that are the countries with a high percentage of Africans in the populous. Spanish are basically white boiz, and south american spics are the same only that those tingled with even tinier dicked natives.
must mean something to you to reply to it
That doesn't mean that blacks have large penises, though. You can't just assume that if variable a is not equal to conclusion c, and variable a + variable b is equal to conclusion c, then b is necessary for conclusion c to occur. There are other variables.
4 inches is absurd average for white is 6 inches sounds like your projecting about your 5.5 inch chode
It's common knowledge, please ask any girl and they'll tell you, you ever seen a white dude in porn? Shits fucking embarising
Well I'm 6 inches at 18 idc about anybody else in my race I'm doing fine
Actually, to be fair, the average for whites, and the world average, is about 5-5.5, not 6.
No I just wanted to let you know that we laugh at dumb shit like that, just like y'all do to cracker really doesn't affect us
Anecdotes and testimonials are not proper evidence, and neither are porn actors. Some porn films use white actors with small penises because that is a part of the cuckold fantasy. Also, porn films pick blacks with abnormally large penises to perpetuate the myth of large penises. Have you ever taken a class in statistics or learned about empirical evidence? This is basic stuff. Come back when you have a basic education.
to perpetuate the myth of large average penises in blacks*
Little mistake there.
Whites and blacks are both bigger than you, your life is irrelelvent I understand why you dislike niggers so much
fair enough man
Whites are not you fucking joke lmao keep lying to yourself man if that's what helps you sleep at night, and I'm one of the few people defending black people ITT, and yea I hate black people so much that's why I'm dating a black girl
>Projecting this hard
Not the guy you are arguing with but I kind of pity you, mate
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Why would date a black girl? Black skin is unattractive. Oh, yeah. You must be unattractive yourself to have such low standards.
I haven't seen a hispanic man in porn in my life, the most popular pornstars are white you idiot
>implying a bad black girl isn't the hardest girl to get
It's hot as fuck seeing the opposite skin tone as mine, also slim body big ass, and some black girls are absolutely gorgeous, a lot of girls think I'm attractive so I must be doing something right
Congratulations read
>idc about anyone else in my race I'm doing fine
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They're the easiest m8.
t. nu-male
im sure it has