Wtf i hate steve now

wtf i hate steve now

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more people should hate him cause he's a lame hack.

i get his philosophy of recording and Im fine with it but it kills me that legions of hipsters call him a great producer when he's not

>i get his philosophy of recording
which is?

Read his tour diaries.

no absolutely not.

sees himself as an objective documentarian and not a producer at all in the traditional sense

wtf i hate steve now

Steve, these headphones are fucked up.

>legions of hipsters call him a great producer when he's not
I always felt he elicited pretty unique tones from instruments in particular drums which I thought sounded great i.e. he's great.

that's cause you don't know dick about audio production.

>pre-facelift Saab 900 Turbo

Fucking hell they don't make cars like they used to

to hear that it's fairly unique? I don't have to know dick to simply compare tones or think it sounds good to me.

slint sucks lmao

if you understood his philosophy and practices then you would be praising his ability as an engineer which again is silly cause that's the bare minimum anyone can learn to do and not really a great talent. You literally don't know dick about what you are talking about

not the other guy
i like steve albini as a producer, and a performer.
i'm sorry.

that's fine you are just another clueless hipster fuck following a pack

If that's your issue then fine I like him as an engineer and have zero interest in him as a producer.

>stop liking things i don't like!!!!!!
again, i'm sorry

how was this album even recorded

Fuck off, Steve is perfect if you want to make a raw rock album.

most of steve albini's produced albums have the inherent problems that they all sound too albini-esque, steve admitted this himself in that he would tweak too much to a recording, resulting in a lot of his produced albums (tweez for instance) sounding the same.

the original slint bassist quit because he thought steve sabotaged tweez.

thank god steve never produced spiderland

this is what I fucking mean. can't stand this shit. you know who else is just as perfect? literally any engineer that knows how to do his job.

>they all sound too albini-esque
>inherent problem

t. bandcamp producer who makes lofi bedroom pop

He produced Surfer Rosa I think, so he's alright.

excuse me I think you mean ENGINEERED

Then why is it the albums Albini produces have such a distinct sound? If any idiot could do what he does then why hasn't it been widely replicated?

you literally don't even understand what you are talking about.


Albini's entire goal is to capture an artist as they are without his identity coloring the record in any way outside is analog fetishism. It is literally retarded to praise him as a producer when his whole ethos is that he does not produce at all.

lmao

gear and 'non production'

apparently it's also just how he has the studio set up

youtube.com/watch?v=KS7KlAI30Ro

Recorded At – Electrical Audio
Mixed By, Producer – Sanford Parker, Tony Lazzara

>It is literally retarded to praise him as a producer when his whole ethos is that he does not produce at all.
i disagree

He's gone on record numerous times as simply letting the band give him whatever credit they want to.

Underated post, top fucking kek!

>analog fetishism
It's not a fetish or a simple preference. It's protection.

Well, he still deserves credit for being the man who figured out how to do that set up.

you shouldn't if you have a fucking brain.

you can praise him for what he does but it's fucking stupid to say he's a 'great producer'

agreed

what set up?

What was different about his style of recording/producing? Can anyone explain?

let me put it this way, there are real producers out there that will fucking laugh at you if you tell them Albini is your favorite producer

why shouldn't i call him a great producer? because you don't want me to?
he's been credited as the producer for some good albums, and i think he brings a unique style to his albums.
why does that upset you so?

possibly a trade secret

seeit only upsets me in the low key general way human stupidity is upsetting to witness. You just don't fucking understand what you are talking about even though it's been explained to you.

production and engineering are often interchangeable terms especially if there is no producer

>You just don't fucking understand what you are talking about even though it's been explained to you.
no, i understand your points, i just disagree with the conclusion you've drawn.
sounds to me like you're either baiting, or just buttblasted because someone used a term in a context you dislike.
either way literally lol'ing at yr life right now lol

isn't it? not every single band wanted to sound like a big black or rapeman production.

If you don't want your album to sound like it was produced by Steve Albini, don't get Steve Albini to produce your album :^)

that's so irrelevant the fact you say it now shows you don't understand this in the least

the equivalent is if you were telling me your favorite arranger was the guy who recorded the sounds of pygmy music in the rain forest. It's hilariously retarded.

it's not really equivalent, but w/e

that's what drew me to him and also probably every single band that ever recorded with him.

and I don't think every album sounds too albini-esque

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yes it literally is. That's exactly how albimi approaches 'production' he seeks to capture the group the same way an anthropologist would. so no, not 'w/e'

are there any other producers where you can hear whom produced it just by the sound of it?

possibly? are you memeing me?

it just sounds lo-fi to me

john peel?

r/iamverysmart

no, it literally isn't. an album produced by steve albini sounds different than if he didn't. if two different people record a group of pygmys singing, the arrangement doesn't change.

you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. the point is that the anthroplogist didnt do any arranging at all. the analogy works exactly the same if you replace arrage with produce. The whole point for the anthropologist it to not influence the sound of the group and capture it as is, which is LITERALLY the philosophy albini takes to his producing to the point where he as explained the comparison using anthropology. You are a fucking shithead without a damn clue about this. I'm going to bed but first I'm gonna pray for your dumb fuck ass so the next person might be spared you.

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>an album produced by steve albini sounds different than if he didn't. if two different people record a group of pygmys singing, the arrangement doesn't change.
your analogy sucks, and so do you.

it's not even an analogy. The anthropologist and albini are doing literally the same things for the same reasons

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itt: rap fags

posts like these always impress upon me the uselessness of trying to convince a population this stupid of anything in general. really makes me think.

I agree you should give up.

it's hard to give up after you have won a debate

you use the word literally too much.
i don't think steve albini producing an album is LITERALLY the same as an anthropologist making a field recording of native songs. I think the two processes might be a *little* different.
that's neither here nor there though, because my point still stands. whether or not steve albini is producing from the standpoint of an anthropologist, how does this disqualify him from being considered a good producer? you're acting like he just stamps his name on a collection of the band's home demos and calls it a day, when there is a clear sound that he brings to any given album.
i thought you were going to bed?
christ, you are so fucking arrogant. someone disagreeing with you doesn't make them stupid. we are discussing opinions here, not objective facts.

try

>itt: /production/
ftfy

>i don't think steve albini producing an album is LITERALLY the same as an anthropologist making a field recording of native songs
YES HE and i can't stresss this enough LITERALLY does. He seeks to capture what a band does the same way an anthropologist would, in an objective way that doesn't influence the sound of the artist he's recording.

You fucking moron. You would know this if you fucking knew anything about the producer you are so adamant to admire. Fuck off retard. This isn't some crackpot theory or contrarian view, I'm telling you things albini has said himself about how he approahes producing. Fuck off you clueless dumb fuck

triggered?

go back to /prod/

wow nice memes are you starting to realize what a moronic corner you have painted yourself into by talking out your ass? don't answer that of course you haven't you big dummy

not at all

just trying to explain your "arrangement" angle

If you're not from /prod/ than you still need to go there and stay.

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incredibly
you LITERALLY don't know what the word LITERAL means.
Plus you still haven't even addressed my point.
neither of those guys are me, but the second guy is right.

are you going to go to bed, or just sit around insisting that your opinion is correct all night?

really now? did the part where I said>the analogy works exactly the same if you replace arrange with produce

not make that clear enough for your dumb ass?

or the part where I said>The anthropologist and albini are doing literally the same things for the same reasons

you are grasping at symantic straws and it's retarded.


no I literally mean it's literally the same fucking thing. they are doing the same thing for the same reasons in different places. You are retarded.

TPAB is far better than this. Its a dope album. But TPAB started ALL THIS shit from rappers using soul, funk, and newschool sounds were hearing today. It not only was one of the most unique ways to tell a story, to tell an album. but it was a huge success and regarded as one of the best rap albums all time ALREADY by many hip hop fans.

You saying that LEMONADE is better is very disrespectful and just not true lol. beyonce may have a few of her song from this play on the radio but it wont do as much as TPAB. TPAB fucking united cultures more.

>different places
and that's the whole point as I already pointed out here

>hey are doing the same thing
actually no they aren't. one is recording pygmys sing, the other is producing a rock album. unless you mean to say that literally anyone involved in the recording of any audio is doing literally the same thing as an anthropologist recording natives sing, then you are literally wrong.
i guess i'll just repost the point i made, as you either missed it, or you are just avoiding it to make this asanine analogy ad nauseam.
>an album produced by steve albini sounds different than if he didn't. if two different people record a group of pygmys singing, the arrangement doesn't change.

you haven't done a damn thing to support your opinion. I don't know how to make this shit more fucking clear. He has actually explained in interviews how he's documenting these music group and not producing them. You have no fucking clue. None. You are the reason I hate Albini fans, cause they are almost invariably huge dumbass posers

lol >it's just how he has it set up.
You have never been in a recording studio in your life have you? you don't know dick about what you are talking about.

Again you don't even have to take my word on this, go listen to the fucking man himself and hear him say the same shit Im paraphrasing about how he does his job.

no, you are right, albini is totally just misinformed about his being a self proclaimed documentarian differing from a regular producer. how could I have forgotten that you posting on here know more about it than he does?

Fuck this place is a fucking joke. I'm never coming back.

I said its ALSO just how its set up

That song isn't recorded by Albini but it sounds like it might as well be since it was recorded in his studio.

>I'm never coming back.
good

lol oh you mean a record sounds like albini even though he didn't make it??? but I though he had a very distinct sound ???

you are so fucking retarded.

I thought you were leaving.

by that logic i should be able to walk into aphex twin's house and produce a record that sounds just like richard.

I thought you wouldn't be able to use a computer if you were this dumb. guess we are both surprised.

>Fuck this place is a fucking joke. I'm never coming back.
lmao, le quitting Sup Forums because people have opinions you don't like.
>differing from a regular producer
so is he different from a "regular" producer, or not a producer? which one is it, big boy?

possibly

but those are the facts regarding Albini's studio and Sanford Parker

were you born in march or early april?

i'm just gonna keep reposting this until you address it
>an album produced by steve albini sounds different than if he didn't. if two different people record a group of pygmys singing, the arrangement doesn't change.

I was getting a senior citizen vibe

>use a computer

I was getting more of a psychosis vibe.

that issue was just addressed by you and it's a flawed premise to begin with and AGAIN

you are telling me I am wrong for saying the things about albini's work that he has said ab0out his work.

why the fuck can't you just admit you are out of your depth? you could have made a joke and just said wtf I hate steve now and thread would have gone full circle by the doors.

>so is he different from a "regular" producer, or not a producer? which one is it, big boy?
good catch

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no, arguing about semantics is not a catch it's something you do when you don't understand the fucking concept being told to you.

i don't mean you in the universal sense here btw I mean you specifically have shown yourself to do that several time here already

I didn't start this

regardless my point stands. (cue next semantic argument)

>that issue was just addressed by you
lmao that's not me, and it doesn't invalidate what i said at all.
this whole conversation is about nothing but semantics tho. the whole point of this conversation is that you get buttmad when people call steve albini a good producer because you don't think people should call him a producer.

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Do you want to know why he records in analog?

tell me bb