Is goth music dead? I checked Wikipedia for goth artists, and recognized most of them from way back in the day. Why aren't kids these days obsessed with death and the macabre?
Is goth music dead? I checked Wikipedia for goth artists, and recognized most of them from way back in the day...
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This is the yolo generation, post-ironic
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Witch House sounds pretty cool, but it seems a largely scattered and different beast from what I remember. That's how nostalgia goes, I suppose. Music evolves, and we keep getting older and looking back, wanting what was old to be new again.
salem's legit
>salem's legit
Ironically, I'm from Michigan. Must be something in the water.
Chelsea Wolfe.
Goth is on its way back.
I have to admit, she sounds pretty legit. That's the music I remember.
I have have the same thought OP. I havent loked any of the shit up. but whenever people mention any industrial goth type shit . it's always shit that was already old when I was a teen.
Because they're SJW's now.
goth rock might die because of SJW and fat acceptance speech. So fat girls don't have a reason to be dark and gloomy and be social misfits.
God that is actually worse than everything else they've done so far
it's scattered. there's no real gothic rock any more but you can find remnants of its influence in various metal genres, neofolk, trip hop and shoegaze. I don't know, the post-punk and industrial sounds kinda ran their course
as far as the audience, i actually think all that scene post-hardcore/emo/whatever shit stole it
also
Can this be a surrogate /dark/ for a little bit?
Most of the goths I knew where fat girls with bad body odor and poor hygiene.
it will last maybe two more years before they crack. cognitive dissonance is not sustainable, you can't pretend to be happy that you're unhealthy for long
manly goth died with him
that's the point
Exactly. Now instead of hating themselves and society and becoming goths they instead become sjws
The world needs more self hate tbqh. Helped me out a lot
white people with naturally black hair got bred out
It definitely helps me get along with people better when they hate themselves as much as they should
I wanna go back
Fuck off, Salem is less goth than fucking Hot Topic
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everything dies
>SJW and fat acceptance speech
Are you retarded or something
Holy autism
the only actual goth-related things posted in this thread so far. you're all hipster pussies
>you're all hipster pussies
you mean like robert smith?
>type O negative
this is better than most hair metal but it's still hair metal
and yeah salem isn't goth
yes exactly, the cure sucked after Pornography
>ToN
>hair metal
bruh
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you kinda missed the point which is that goth is inherently effeminate and hip, including pornography. gothic metal is a completely different thing entirely
Okay, I don't know about all this SJW bullshit. Goth music has always been somewhat feminine, with industrial being the masculine counterpart, but it's rarely political, and most people like both.
Either way, I don't think "SJW" stuff has much to do with goth music. You find that in punk rock music.
meh most people I know into goth like them, the other links I posted are more punk-influenced
Peter Steele was a god.
Is witchhouse kill
no one's saying that goth has anything to do wigh sjws, just that sjw's took some of the audience. people who might have been attracted to goth music to look unique now use politics instead. and people do their fake positivity movements instead of wallowing in the depression that's clearly lingering in most sjws
I like this one better
sure, my point was more against the hipsterization of Goth via bands like Salem and the Horrors which ignore the aggressive punk influence in favor of appearing trendy and "dark". Many goth bands adopt an effeminate and glam-influenced image but still make aggressive and hard-hitting music. there's more to Goth than the Cure and 80's post-punk btw
good, you should explore their music more, it's extremely diverse and creative
their first album is absolutely mad
Did any album ever top Pornography as the best goth album of all time?
make your point more clearly then family. goths tend to be effeminate hipsters and a lot of the music reflects that. the cure is only hard hitting emotionally. there may be variety, but there's plenty of canon goth music that is not hard-hitting in the slightest, so that's not really an argument for why something is inauthentic
>Type O Negative
>hair Metal
Fucking explain yourself. Even at their poppiest they were never hair metal.
If you hated October Rust you hate fun, happiness, and humor in metal in general.
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without warning, heart attack
he fell asleep, in the snow
never woke up, died alone
it's metal
they have lots of hair
it sounds like hair metal
and I meant that song only
he listened to the single edit of black no 1 and thought all their music was like that
This is them at like their popiest: youtube.com
There's still heaviness, but it's layered.
are the cramps goth
Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride still make new music
it's a diverse genre i'll give you that, but many people I know involved with the goth scene identify more as punks and feel angry with the "hipster" subculture that they think cannibalizes authentic expression and uses superficially "goth" imagery because it's so cool and ironic. sorry if that wasn't clear
nigger no one's defending the horrors, they have more in common with tame impala
but "pussy hipsters" is not antithetical to goth. just look at the skinny fags in the video you posted
Oh wow. I didn't start this thread to start dumb gender-wars bullshit.
>Freezing men don't laugh at murder!
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i guess there are different types of pussy hipsters lol some make urban-outfitters background music and other plays shows where people mosh and and are strung out on heroin and crystal meth
I can't believe I died last night!
Oh God I'm Dead Again!
I can't believe I died last night!
I'M FUCKING DEAD AGAINNNNN!
Goddamn I miss him and Type O. Did any of the other members ever do anything musically in the past 6 years since he died?
If you want to find goth - check your local BDSM scene. I'm not kidding, it's goth as fuck just get on FetLife, go to some meetups, go to fuck parties dressed in black, don't get AIDS. All they fucking listen to is goth and industrial.
kek
I wanted him to stay 30 years old forever.
The Guy was starting to look really bad those final years, but fucking hell I would be lying if I didn't say I missed him.
You can tell that song was a throwaway that didn't take them that long to write, but the lyrics are still pretty good.
Life is Killing Me honestly feels like their most low-effort album. Well maybe not as much as Origin of the Feces.
Goth lost it's punk roots. Bauhaus, The Cure, Siouxsie Sioux, Alien Sex Fiend, Christian Death, Sex Gang Children, Joy Division, etc, all started as punk bands.
They're now all dance-hall, electronic bands doing darkwave, or pseudo-industrial, or 80s new wave nostalgia.
There was a bit of a revival about 10 years ago with bands like Written in Ashes, Bella Morte, Disjecta Membra, Cinema Strange, etc... but they're just turning out the same dumb dance music as everybody else these days...
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I'm the pussy hipster who just got drunk on pbr, mostly, because it was a cheaper beer when I was younger, and going to basement shows and crashing random student-ghetto parties.
I guess Nile, Behemoth, and Necrophagist are hair metal bands too?
he became rasputin
this, post-PUNK is still punk dudes
he keeps paint on the same shelf as his food, which consists mostly of coffee...
October Rust > Dead Again > World Coming Down > Slow Deep and Hard > Bloody Kisses > Life is Killing Me
Origin of the Feces is just a fun fake live album.
he already fried his brain
yeah, at that point he should have looked into professional wrestling
Synths helped destroy everything, but I mostly mourn for Skinny Puppy, who killed it back in the day with their limited technology:
eh, i reckon he had one more great album left in him, he had gotten clean when he died
It's actually
October Rust> Dead Again> Slow Deep and Hard>Bloody Kisses>Life is Killing Me>World Coming Down>Origin of the Feces.
World Coming down is significantly more depressing than it was ever intended to be. It's so depressing. It's so depressing 3 tracks of bloody kisses style halloween-ey fun and a beatles medly can't pick you up by the end.
Dude turned Christian apparently during Dead Again which would definitely explain These Three Things. I feel like that'd taint the band's reputation.
Yeah, Skinny Puppy had their day...
I saw them a couple years ago and Ogre took time out of the show to rant about 9/11 conspiracy theories... kind of ruined the concert.
Front Line Assembly opened for them though, and they were pretty awesome.
Did you ever get into Carnivore? Peter Steele's thrash band
Ha! Doesn't surprise me that Ogre has gone conspiracy theorist. They jumped the shark awhile ago, frankly. Glad to here Front Line Assembly is true-to-form, thought.
What the fuck, they got so bad.
if pete was alive today you just KNOW he'd be wrestling for billy corgan and appearing on infowars promoting white nationalism
love carnivore, but god damn he was looking terrible in those years
Yeah, but those ladies were looking pretty good.
Also, love how he just starts ripping strings off his bass at the end
Dude was the kind of guy who'd get in a vocal war about Kanye west.
no, but they're liked by goths, and they inspired psychobilly, which gothabilly grew out of.
>Cinema Strange
absolutely terrible