>Pioneered Punk
They literally influenced proto-punk albums.
Making them Proto-proto-punk
>Pioneered Noise Rock
>Pioneered Dream pop
>Pioneered Art Rock
>Pioneered Heavy Metal
>Pioneered Avant-Garde rock
Please tell me more about The Beatles and The Beach Boys.
>art rock referring to anything but early prog
you're right but what are you doing
>pioneered punk
That's called "garage rock". The Velvets didn't invented garage rock, lol
George Harrison invented dream pop and shoegaze
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Stupid you are.
What a bunch of talentless hacks. OP eats a bag of dicks.
they were incredibly influential but they weren't first to any of these
what do you know about the beatles?
Delete this
This.
See
wow thanks
if you want I can list which bands came before VU in these genres
the sonics
Most influential band of the century.
I never heard of them as I was growing up because of the silly beatles worship.
Okie.
I do like a good cringe once in a while.
>pioneered punk
No they didn't. That was The Sonics who did that.
>pioneered noise rock
True.
>pioneered dream pop
Nah that was The Beach Boys on Pet Sounds
>pioneered art rock
Nah that was The Beatles
>pioneered heavy metal
Not even close. TVU never knew how to write actual riffs. Just because WLWH can get noisy doesn't mean it's heavy nor metal.
>pioneered avant-grade Rock
Nah that's Frank Zappa
They're the greatest band of all time.
-- Iconoclastic and edgy for their time
-- Genius songs
-- Unanticipated musical experimentation
-- Influential
-- Never recorded a bad song
>>pioneered art rock
>Nah that was The Beatles
>iconoclastic and edgy for their time
Nah. They didn't attack previous beliefs nor introduced ideas too different. Zappa was the one who did everything in as iconoclast a way as possible.
>genius songs
The vast majority of them sound dated as fuck due to developments in music since.
>unanticipated musical experimentation
No. That goes to groups like White Noise, Silver Apples, The Shaggs, etc. that were actually trying to go way out in how to make/approach music at that time.
>influential
Definitely, but not as influential as people make them seem.
>never recorded a bad song
Even if you disagree for some delusional reason that even their best tracks aren't dated, their final album still exists.
George Martin's work is far more art rock based than anything TVU&N. It's why every art rock band since has approached making music like he did and not Lou Reed. That being said, certain techs from Phil Spector, Brian Wilson, and Frank Zappa precede some of it so it can be them, too.
The Monks, The sonics
The Monks
a ton of 60's pop is as close to dream pop as TVU was youtube.com
art rock doesn't mean much, you could easily say the beatles or the beach boys
I can't see anything in TVU&N inspiring or resembling heavy metal, so Blue Cheer
Zappa
the gift is shit tho
>Nah that was The Beach Boys on Pet Sounds
what Beach Boys did was not dream pop
compare it to "Here She Comes Now"
>giant walls of sounds with relatively higher pitched soft spoken vocals
Nigga are you deaf?
>>giant walls of sounds
>Pet Sounds
lmao
You're actually deaf or trolling. The album's known for having wall of sound.
How about they were good? Why does no one every use this simple fact as a testament to how they were good? Lester Bangs once talked about how whenever he went to parties thrown by fellow rock critics, the Velvet Underground records would always be in pristine condition, hardly played, while his records were thrashed to hell by years of wear and tare. I don't know, you sound like someone who just wants to prove to himself how the Velvet Underground were good for superficial reasons. First at what they did or not, the Velvet Underground were a phenomenal band.
>The Shaggs
Was that really their intention?
Probably not, and that just makes it that much more unanticipated, no?
They suck.
>Muh influence
This
No not this
Lester was a cunt