Names prominent climate change skeptic as head of the EPA

>names prominent climate change skeptic as head of the EPA
>wants to pull billions of dollars out of the UN climate change fund
>believes manmade climate change is a hoax invented by the chinese to make US goods less competitive

>HURR DURR TRUMP IS GONNA SAVE AMERICA
>MUH FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN
>THIS IS THE GREATEST MOMENT IN RECENT HISTORY

this is what the american right actually believes

climate change is one of the biggest threats to all life on this planet

why is america so retarded and backwards?

thinkprogress.org/trump-taps-notorious-climate-skeptic-7f2264f7f9e0#.9asdqqykm

Literally other countries need to stop being such pussies and need to threaten the US. Like actually threaten with sanctions and shit. Harm business. It's the only language he speaks.

>climate change is one of the biggest threats to all life on this planet
Not my life. I don't care about some shmucks 100 years from now, gotta look out for #1.

global climate change is a hoax.

Don't worry, we'll all be on Mars by the time shit hits the fan on Earth.

Electing Trump is the best thing the USA has done in the last 50 years.

Your life is a lie

that's not for you to decide 2bh

Is climate change really such a big deal, or is it just the flavor of the year, like the ozon hole, acid rain and forest back in the past?

shart legit climate scientists/professors/researchers are pissed off with this and should feel insecure. 2bh they deserve it as part of sharters. im sincerely looking forward to more of this kind of clusterfuck and tears in the us. they have fallen far behind any other country and been laughed at.

> one of national policies is to take am utter pseudo science

LMAO

climate change refers to all changes to the natural environment directly and indirectly caused by global capitalism

rising average temperatures, rising sea levels, mass extinctions of species not seen since the last great extinction tens of thousands of years ago. not to mention micro level effects of pollution from industrial waste

it's horrific

I read this post twice and still can't figure out what you're saying

If that's true, then the UN fund is doing jack shit to stop it. Better to use that cash preserving our nation than some hollow pseudo-science bullshit that's gonna happen anyway by the way you make it sound.

>this mad

ahhahaahahahahahahahahah

Remember, issues like this are why that Singaporean wants to kill and rape and mutilate us all.

I meant caring about issues like this.

He'll be one of the first ones to get affected if the water levels rise too much.

Scientists are already working on scooping up excess CO2 from the atmosphere, no need to get your panties in a twist.

Any excess will be sponged up by plant life anyways 2bh. Plants evolved in an atmosphere that was mostly CO2.

It'd be a shame if something were to happen to those plants... Like pollution that isn't CO2 and defotestation...

Deforestation, acid rain and algae bloom ring a bell?

>rising average temperatures

Newsflash: Climate changed a lot during the human history (medieval age was for example warmer than today)

>rising sea levels

Solution: move a bit further inland/build dykes

>mass extinction

Frankly, it's about time it happened. Humanity is a biological fact and despite the doomsayers, we are gonna stick around for a while. Creatures and plants that can't handle humanity are obsolete.

Furthermore, environmentalism is a cult because its most prominent leaders are luddites and hippies. Quite a lot can be and could be done about global warming but the solutions lie in things like nuclear power and climate manipulation which any green party fears like the devil.

>these are the people who elected the annoying orange
We're all fucked.

>Wanting back billions of dollars that could be used to improve infrastructure and improve the lives of your citizens is a bad thing.

Even if the US cut its emissions to 0 we'd still be fucked China, the Middle East, Africa and South America all need fossil fuels to encourage economic development and good luck convincing them to sacrifice prosperity for "the sake of the planet".

Fucking this. The US has been funding advances in climate science for decades and shit has only gotten worse while a true solution is potentially centuries away from being solved.

It's going to take MILLENNIA to clean up all the crap the world has shat into the atmosphere over the past century. Either way our grandchildren are fucked. I'd rather we use that money to improve people suffering NOW than in the distant future.

>names prominent climate change skeptic as head of the EPA
What's worse is that guy has NO degree whatsoever in any science field.

>ba in philosophy and an ma in fucking political theory

What's even worse almost everybody else is too focused on his hateful comments he made. PC culture has destroyed leftism in the US.

>arg*tina

man has less influence than you think.

Japs are extra butthurt now that they have to defend themselves.

>you have to be a scientist to run a government environmental agency

>rising average temperatures
how is it a bad thing?
we will be able to grow oranges in norway

Yes of course you do
Is requiring someone to know what they're talking about really so shocking to americans?

It's more a statement that the EPA is being told to get fucked.

>tfw I remember people smugly telling me there's no legitimate criticism of Trump, all liberals do is falsely accuse him of racism

It's more people in the Rust belt don't give a fuck about "climate change" and "free trade" because they've lost their jobs and their livelihoods as a result of these two things becoming government policy.

Inequality began to increase in the US once it was decided that it's ok to sacrifice our industry and manufacturing for the sake of "the planet", "our profits", "lower prices" etc.

you can criticize anybody, in trump's case the good vastly outweighs the bad

>falling for the left/right paradigm

:-)

>man made climate change is real

Hahaahhahaha holy shit

>I'M SO TIRED OF THESE EXPERTS

Cultural revolution 2.0

I'm glad you managed to figure out something simple enough that you can say it properly
これからも頑張りましょうねw

"Experts" overwhelmingly had Hillary as the winner of the election so hey.

There's a pretty big difference between people who claim to be experts and people who actually have a PhD from a top grad school

But free trade isn't a government policy, it's a lack of one. Also natural gas being cheaper than coal (another thing that cost a ton of jobs in the rust belt) also isn't a government policy.

What do you expect?

His VP believes you can "shock the gay away". This next four years will be a great lesson American Stupidity. James Buchanan 2.0.

OH SAY CAN YOU SEE

>enacting policies and appointing representatives who believe in your country's well being is stupidity

you don't know how lucky you are that trump/pence won.

>But free trade isn't a government policy, it's a lack of one.

Removing all tariffs, barriers, and many regulations like what happened with NAFTA is definitely government policy.

>Also natural gas being cheaper than coal (another thing that cost a ton of jobs in the rust belt) also isn't a government policy

Mandating emission standards certainly is however. If coal had died a natural death, it would at least have given many of these people time to recognize this and would have been able to make gradual transition to other industries. Having it die almost overnight like it did lead to the permanently depressed economies we now find in the region because all that capital was suddenly gone.

>climate change is one of the biggest threats to all life on this planet
No

How does harassing gays save the environment?

Clearly you've never visited the Rustbelt or Detroit.

How does destroying industry to save the environment benefit working class Americans?

>rising average temperatures
Not a problem. More people die due to low temperatures than have ever died to high temperature environments.

By the way that ""feedback loop"" with atmospheric water vapor turning us into Venus is proven bullshit

Does the American working class live on Earth?

Is it the US's job to protect the Earth at the expense of its people?

>he doesn't know that pride parades are the single largest contributor to CO2 emissions in the West
Dumb leaf

Oh look my fellow liberals are throwing insults again.
Because that totally works.
It makes people see the error of their ways, and in no way is bullying people into being afraid to speak their mind.

Fuck off to your circle-jerk about being white. The left lost because they chose someone who decided to attack instead of discuss. Someone who would rather exploit people instead of stick up the core values of her side, and everyone on her side just decided to go along with it like the good little bitches they are.
If the climate takes a hit it's the democrats fault for being retarded enough to let the political situation get this bad.

Didn't know America was a separate planet. I guess the term mutually beneficial is too communist for you guys to think about.

...

The problem with USA is the blatant anti-intellectualism. They are proud to be stupid.

in this case, mutually beneficial is individually destructive.

That's like blaming your parents for yelling at you for your drunk driving.

We should convince China, Africa, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Canada etc. first to stop using fossil fuels which contribute a huge portion towards their economic growth before the US decides we should stop exploiting our resources at the expense of our economy.

It's all or nothing, we're tired of taking the bullet for others.

But natural gas being cheaper is what killed coal, not emissions. And even if it was, repealing emissions standards today wouldn't bring back coal at all because natural gas is cheaper.

Rust belt is fucked regardless. Hope you guys have a good Springsteen replacement lined up because you are all going to get triple fucked in the rust belt.

I know that, the point is that coals sudden collapse made the situation much worse than if it was slowly phased out. People didn't have time to see the writing on the wall and transition to other industries and this lead to so many small towns having their economies permanently crushed.

Do you ever stop before posting embarassing posts like these?

Why would you grow oranges in Norway? They can grow elsewhere.

It's not (just) the rising temperatures, it's the very rapid change. Oh, and the increased acidity of the oceans. And not to mention all the local polution from combustion that is bad for your health.

>attack instead of discuss

How can you "discuss" anything when one side refuses to even invest a small amount of time into the basic mechanics of the thing they're discussing? I mean, even the most retarded person on Sup Forums should be able to understand that CO2 have some pretty big absorption lines in the infrared and increasing the concentration from combustion of hydrocarbons should increase that absorption.

Don't blame others when one side makes no coherent argument.

Except your parents also beat you senseless every night and that becomes the only way to cope with the pain.

THIS

I'm not saying you need to convince every god damn ignorant fuck out there, but many people were on the fence, and hurling insults at the other side instead of debating when you already had the high ground on that issue was asinine.
Not to mention the fact that many people have been feeling disenfranchised with the left because of PC culture, white blame, and safe spaces. Why are people even surprised that the conservative candidate won with all this against the left?

>People didn't have time to see the writing on the wall and transition to other industries and this lead to so many small towns having their economies permanently crushed.
Why would giving people a couple years notice have saved the town? The only difference is that they wouldn't blame the government for it, but their towns would die either way

Seriously dumb fuck

you're terribly misinformed.

>carbon emissions = global warming

get fucked.

You realize a bunch of countries, including at least some of the ones you mentioned, signed the Paris Agreement right? Are you retarded?

It's almost as if we are a Europe in which people are forced to drive everywhere.

Damn it america, stop fucking up this planet

>Why would giving people a couple years notice have saved the town?
Because they would still have capital to spend and reinvest in other businesses and industries. Look at what the UAE is doing building all these islands and tourist attractions with their oil money. If all that money suddenly disappeared they would be fucked.

So if I call you a stupid retard that makes me pc?

Unlikely. These are rural towns we are talking about now countries. The people who own the mines are the ones who would be doing the reinvesting, and they aren't necessarily going to reinvest in the same place

Now adjust it per capita

And? Their emissions only continue to rise while ours is steadily falling, which is the point.

Unlikely is better than not being given a chance at all imo. Even if it only survived for 10 more years it would have allowed them to save enough money to invest in education for their children. They didn't get that chance and now their kids will be in crippling debt just to move up the economic ladder.

wtf i hate australia now

correlalation != causation

XDDD

At least Australia has an excuse living far away from all civilization and thus having to import a lot of stuff from thousands of kilometers away

It's still you, other anglo nations and Arabs who are the worse hogs

If a giant meteor is coming on a collision course towards earth you can't prove it will actually hit until it does but you'd be pretty stupid not to worry about it.

Yet their emissions continue to only grow while ours have decreased by 10% over 25 years.
Australia uses a fuckton of coal and has car culture just like the US.

>He fell for the climate change meme

Top kek. In the 90s it was global cooling. Then in the early 2000s it became global warming. Now the goalpost is moved even further to "climate change". Climate has never not been changing.

It's not enough, Paris wasn't enough of a comitment and even that you'll walk out on, it's beyond idiotic

If it wasn't us it would be China or someone else desu.

That's complete bullshit. If they don't walk out on it after the US leaves, they definitely wouldn't do so before. You're just making things up to defend bad decisions at this point.

Yes, because China's rapid economic growth isn't necessitated by fossil fuels at all.

Oh wait.

Why are you refusing to respond to anything that is actually said?

Because It's already well known that the US, and plenty of other nations, are working to reduce emissions, yet while the US commits to it, others don't. We can't force China to not use mountains of coal to fuel their industry, why should we cripple ourselves in a way that drives millions into poverty?

Are there schools in America?

Schools are for dorks desu

you're completely right man

nobody cares about the environment.

That's not a good reason to ignore what people say user. Try actually responding to what people have said instead of repeating the same line post after post when it doesn't actually counter anything.

>there are legit climate change denies in this thread

jesus christ

next you'll be telling me antibiotic resistance doesn't exist

Vaccinations.

>That's not a good reason to ignore what people say user.
He says, as he ignores what he has to say...