The urban elite think they are Gods but people the countryside actually live like Gods

The urban elite think they are Gods but people the countryside actually live like Gods.

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80% of Americans live in cities and their culture and media only reflect that. There's no reason to be butthurt about it.

Political system gives rural areas disproportionate amount of power and that's why Trump happened.

Fucking this. These fucks live off farm subsidies as well so they don't even have to bother with being productive and they're the biggest benefactors of illegal labor in the US. It's like reverse feudalism.

>80% of Americans live in cities
>citation needed

>I will never have a comfy life in the Welsh countryside

Here you go. US Census Bureau. Page 60.

It's from 2010, so it's probably even more today.

www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/cph-2-1.pdf

Farmers here are even worse. Like this guy said

urban elite could buy the countryside at a whim and sometimes do

>disproportionate

It would be unfair the other way because cities would entirely decide elections so there would literally be no point for rural areas to vote at all

Cityfags are often fucking stupid so thank god they don't have all the voting power

Do you really think farmers are "well off"? Because they are far from it. They do a shit ton of work and a lot of the time barely break even. There is a reason why people aren't taking up farming anymore, and why more and more people are getting out of it

Most farms are corporate now anyway, the 'rural voter' probably isn't a farmer.

They took 'er jerbs!

But this system was designed when America was far less urbanized than today. It's no longer democratic.

Why not? That's how representative democracy works.

how does the system make rural votes count more?

America isn't the only country that is representative democracy. There are other countries that have it and that are without Electoral College.

Representative democracy means that you elect people that deal with politics and decision making. It's got nothing to do with this anachronistic electoral system.

Electoral colleges are literally a measure for the elite to be able to overrule the vote of the plebs

American isn't a democracy, it is a republic

You're thinking of superdelegates.

America is not a direct democracy (only a few countries like Switzerland are), but it's still a democratic country.

>we shouldn't follow the law because it's old lmao
That's some Tumblr tier faggotry

Cry more, citycucks.

The kulak has defeated the Jew.

I am not. The reason delegates from certain states aren't bound to vote in line with what the people voted is precisely that.

electoral college grants a disproportionate share of votes among less populated states.

the bottom ten states contain 4% of the population but 8% of the electoral votes.

traditionally belgian congo guy is right

It was progressive system for its time, but you no longer need several weeks on horseback to get to the other side of the country.

>It was progressive system for its time, but you no longer need several weeks on horseback to get to the other side of the country.
That's not why it was implemented

Okay, maybe I'm thinking of superdelegates.

yeah, and that's why you gotta vote in the middle of the week

>A uniform date for choosing presidential electors was instituted by the Congress in 1845.[1] Many theories have been advanced as to why the Congress settled on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.[5] The actual reasons, as shown in records of Congressional debate on the bill in December 1844, were fairly prosaic. The bill initially set the day for choosing presidential electors on "the first Tuesday in November," in years divisible by four (1848, 1852, etc.). But it was pointed out that in some years the period between the first Tuesday in November and the first Wednesday in December (when the electors are required to meet in their state capitals to vote) would be more than 34 days, in violation of the existing Electoral College law. So, the bill was reworded to move the date for choosing presidential electors to the Tuesday after the first Monday in November, a date scheme already used in New York.[6] The period between Election Day and the first Wednesday in December is always 29 days. The effect of the change was to make November 2 the earliest day on which Election Day may fall.

You need to look up how much farmers make and how on the dole they are. People aren't farmers anymore because there is not enough ariable land to go around and its in the hands of a few huge landowners for the most part.

>Do you really think farmers are "well off"? Because they are far from it. They do a shit ton of work and a lot of the time barely break even. There is a reason why people aren't taking up farming anymore, and why more and more people are getting out of it

Because automation and machines elimanated the need for most of the population working in agriculture?

Do you even industrial revolution bro?

I know all that, I learned it before Obama's first term because it was ridiculous to me, that a nation in 21st century would still abide to outdated set of election rules just because they are old. It still is ridiculous and in my opinion should be changed, but oh well

>just because they are old
>this is the only reason why we still allow the Electoral College to function
Idiot

I pointed out directly the DATE of election, not the electoral collage as a whole. FIrst of all, the idea of electors is alright for a union of states, but 'first past the post'system is plain dumb, and a sole reason that your 2 party political system exists. FPTP is anti-democratic and anti-pluralistic

There are arguments to be made that holding the election on a single day helps to prevent multi-district voting fraud, but I get your point

>first past the post'system is plain dumb, and a sole reason that your 2 party political system exists. FPTP is anti-democratic and anti-pluralistic
Agreed

You could make that single day happen on the weekend. Say, a saturday after the first monday of november
Start the voting as soon as humanly possible, onsidering your time zones, finish at 10 PM

Election day should be a federal holiday.
I'm on the fence about compulsory voting; knowing the average American it might not be a great idea to oblige them to participate in a government function.

having a choice about voting or not should be, and fortunately is a civic freedom
About the federal holiday, maybe. But it'd definitely be easier to just move it to weekend

>weekend
Some orthodox jews won't vote on Saturday, some fundamentalist christians won't on Sunday.

This desu.

And why can't all citizens eligible to vote get free state-issued IDs? These voter registrations are pretty weird desu.

This would solve fears of voter suppression and electoral fraud at the same time. Your government is already spying on you on a massive scale and only a few seem to mind.

>Some orthodox jews won't vote on Saturday, some fundamentalist christians won't on Sunday.

Good, we can get their retarded beliefs out of politics.

US of A is a country of 318 million people
1.7–2.6% of the U.S. population should have a special snowflake status because?
And about fundamental christans not voting on sunday-it's dumb, it's not work, so god literally said nothing about it being wrong/against his will

because they're specifically made to keep people who aren't white from voting.
if you can't vote without a licence it means a lot of young and poor people can't vote, combined with the acceptability of a gun license as ID ensures that more poor whites can vote because they generally own more guns than poor blacks.

>And why can't all citizens eligible to vote get free state-issued IDs?
It's been suggested before and the Dems won't let it pass

>because they're specifically made to keep people who aren't white from voting.
It has been proven to have a negligible effect on voter turnout regardless of race, try again

and the reason for this is? Aren't they the ones who stand with the 'poor and opressed' who'd benefit from it?

I know and that's why you should get a free state-issued ID card like in Europe. Everyone gets one and there is no need to register to vote.

>and the reason for this is?
Muh voter suppression even though that's proven to be bullshit

[citation needed]
if it's so negligible why were so many states banned from making them for 50 years?

have you even talked to any farmers lately?

>[citation needed]
You have to provide evidence that it will suppress voters first fucknugget

>if it's so negligible why were so many states banned from making them for 50 years?
Not an argument

I'm related to some, that's how I know this. They bring in Dominican fruit pickets here every time there's a harvest and then act as if they did all the work.

you're making a claim that was established as incorrect by the supreme court, don't whine when someone asks you for evidence. The fact that the places where people can get voter IDs are so inaccessible and limited in their hours stands in contrast to your claim.

This is what it looks like.

I don't get why are anglophone countries so allergic to mandatory IDs. Is it associated with communism or something?

>you're making a claim that was established as incorrect by the supreme court
Still not seeing any evidence that they suppress voters

>The fact that the places where people can get voter IDs are so inaccessible and limited in their hours stands in contrast to your claim
So make them more accessible and increase their hours. It's that simple. I'm sure that Tyrese and Jamal can stand to go and pick up a free ID once every few years if they really care so much.

What would make you happy? Do you think that we should mail them to the voters so that they don't even have to leave their homes? Because I'm willing to do that if it eliminates the possibility that people are able to vote multiple times

Taking into account metropolitan areas it is most likely true. A majority of our population lives within commuting distance(within 50 miles) to a large city

In my state they send a voter ID card in the mail to the address where you're registered to vote, but everybody I've ever seen just uses their drivers license anyway.

Maybe they should be allowed to vote early or absentee.

aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet your move dude
and yeah, I think they should be mailed directly to people. Voter fraud is almost non-existant and there are laws in place to punish people who do it, it makes no sense to punish everyone for something they might potentially do. The government services that distribute those IDs should extend their hours, but conservative lawmakers deliberately make them as inaccessible as possible because they cut hours to save money on budgets, which never increase because they're so busy trying to cut taxes and make everything as inefficient as possible

tl;dr conservatives complain about the government being inefficient when all they do is cut service funding and make it more inefficient so when the services fail they point to them as "wasteful government spending" deserving of more cuts.

I'm just pointing out that someone will always find an objection to raise, some reason why we can't do things a different, more sensible way.

Reasoning is poor people won't take off to go through the process of getting a voter ID. I always thought it would be a good idea for people to register to vote if they are citizen when getting a driver's permit and get a voter ID card when they turn 18 along with their license. Apparently this wouldn't work since not even Republicans press this idea against Democrats

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Ah I see you point

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urban elite have the money but the countryfolk have the resources.

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