RIP TRAYVON, DAT NIGGA LOOK JUST LIKE ME

>RIP TRAYVON, DAT NIGGA LOOK JUST LIKE ME

lmao. fucking embarrassing.

>if I had a twin brother, he would be Trayvon

All the lines referencing black shootings being normal & Trayvon almost destroyed an entire track.

Thanks Frank for the current year commentaries that I'm sure will be so fresh years later. Keep your fucking politics out of music if you want a record to last.

To be fair they actually do look similar

what exactly were you expecting from flavour of the month p4k shit. no hip hop and r&b released in the 2010s needs to leave a legacy, it just needs to be trendy when it comes out

>All black people look alike

Wow, good job you fucking racist.

Can you believe he made a reference to cell phones, too? God this album is going to be so dated a century from now when we're all communicating telepathically

>get killed on your way to make lean by a faggot with a god complex because you picked the fight
>get shoutouts from frank ocean and obama

>no hip hop and r&b released in the 2010s needs to leave a legacy, it just needs to be trendy when it comes out

What stopped 2010's albums from being classics?

That's whats disappointing, they get all counter culture & acting like they dont give a fuck what's trendy when that's all they do is cater an entire album to trending features, commentaries and themes.

This has all the makings of a 10/10 album if he just took the blinders off and focused on what that album could've meant for outside the month it was released in.

i know what you're trying to do, and its weak sauce.

not sure what's embarassing about it tbqh famalampai

that beat is fucking gorgeous btw

how is following someone around the neighborhood with a gun not picking a fight?

The only thing I not too fond about Nikes is the chipmunk-autotune.

>focused on what that album could've meant for outside the month it was released in

The Trayvon incident has remained historically important years after it occurred. It will continue to be an important touchstone for years to come. It's not a monthly trend

Are songs that reference the Rosenbergs being electrocuted dated? Are songs that refer to Rodney King dated? Obviously not

What if, just hear me out, now what if--wait for it--What if....what if.....maybe....just maybe.....good albums are good because it has good music ?

It's more embarrassing seeing people triggered so hard about that line.

>The Trayvon incident has remained historically important years after it occurred. It will continue to be an important touchstone for years to come. It's not a monthly trend

It's not that important, it's only important by proxy of it kicking off a movement founded upon outrage and rioting over dumbasses who start shit.

>Are songs that reference the Rosenbergs being electrocuted dated? Are songs that refer to Rodney King dated? Obviously not

Yeah, they are, I was listening to The Predator by Ice Cube yesterday and it was nothing but a capsule of time. I have an aversion to any political injection into music whether I agree with it or not.

i like the album, what's your point.

This

You're fucking retarded

I don't agree with BLM a lot of the time either, but you can't say their outrage isn't mostly justified

>It's not that important, it's only important by proxy of it kicking off a movement founded upon outrage and rioting over dumbasses who start shit.

But could you say the same thing about a person singing about the 9/11 attacks? Should a person stop singing about it because it was 15 years ago? It's not trying to keep up an old reference, it's just giving a memorial to a tragic event.

>I was listening to The Predator by Ice Cube yesterday and it was nothing but a capsule of time.

LA riots happened 3-4 months after Predator came out. Ice Cube predicted it would happen in both AMW and Death Certificate. Of course he's going to talk about it. The fact that police brutality and rioting is still happening til this day still makes the album relevant now

Trayvon literally attacked a man. The kid shouldn't be dead, but how dense do you have to be to get into a street fight with someone random?

>It's not that important
It's important enough that you, the intended audience, recognize the name and understand what Frank is trying to say with the lyric.

>I was listening to The Predator by Ice Cube yesterday and it was nothing but a capsule of time

I'm sorry you don't categorize the feeling of stepping into a bygone era as a valuable aesthetic experience. But all music is ultimately a time capsule, particularly lyrically heavy music. In a century or two most of the lyrics you listen to will be dated if they haven't already turned to dust.

Because only a retard would fight a guy with a gun

he literally attacked a shady dude who was stalking him and had a gun. Trayvon was scared and tried to defend himself

>but how dense do you have to be to get into a street fight with someone random?

Zim-Zam was the one who was profiling Trayvon. He thought he look "suspicious" despite not doing anything and stalked him half way home. Trayvon stressed out with paranoia thought it was some dude it to attack him first

Right, that'd be stupid. Better to let stalkers with guns come right up to you and not do anything about it.

Gee, Superman. I wish I had X-Ray vision to see a gun in a man's pocket at night like you

Don't attack random people. You never know, they could have a gun.

What they do and how they do it is abhorrent, and their justification is fueled by racebaiting, rage & rioting against black owned business in their own neighbourhoods.

>But could you say the same thing about a person singing about the 9/11 attacks? Should a person stop singing about it because it was 15 years ago? It's not trying to keep up an old reference, it's just giving a memorial to a tragic event.

yeah, I would. It's using tragedy for personal profit unless otherwise donated, and it's riding the coattails of an event, even if years have gone by. I'm not completely against it, I just think its for lack of a better word; lazy.

>LA riots happened 3-4 months after Predator came out. Ice Cube predicted it would happen in both AMW and Death Certificate. Of course he's going to talk about it. The fact that police brutality and rioting is still happening til this day still makes the album relevant now

Broad brush references to riots and police doesn't make it anymore relevant now than it did back then, overarching themes like that have a tendency to float back into the conscious feeling of a political climate, it's nothing unique to me.

>It's important enough that you, the intended audience, recognize the name and understand what Frank is trying to say with the lyric.

Never shutting up about it has a tendency for me to remember, repetition won't change my mind. What he said isn't anything unique either, in fact I'm pretty sure it was a trend at some point saying #WeAreAllTrayvon or someshit.

>I'm sorry you don't categorize the feeling of stepping into a bygone era as a valuable aesthetic experience. In a century or two most of the lyrics you listen to will be dated if they haven't already turned to dust.

That feeling is about as worth as much as listening to vaporwave for nostalgia. It's cheap. Don't really mind about my current timeline of music, I'll be dead by then.

Wish Zimmerman had taken this advice

Where do you attend college?

eh, i'd say their justification is more based on racial profiling, and the death it can lead to

not at one, not even american.

>Twinkle little star cum on my ass...then fuck my eyelids
>Swans what ?

I don't get why people are trying to complain that he's injecting politics into this album when the only thing is a passing mention to Trayvon Martin. People are just blowing it out of proportion to be angry about instead of focusing on the music like they always do on here

I love when plebs pretend social commentary in art is a new trend

nobody said it was new, you pathetic cuckold. we're just laughing at how heavy handed and shitty it is

Don't stalk random people. You never know, they would attack you

>yeah, I would
Edgy.

> It's using tragedy for personal profit unless otherwise donated, and it's riding the coattails of an event, even if years have gone by. I'm not completely against it, I just think its for lack of a better word; lazy.

Do you also tell Holocaust survivors to "get over it" ? Or a person that mom's died in a car crash years ago to stop being obsessed about it? Let's be serious here, how the hell can you compare an tragedy to a trend? What if a musician actually gives a damn about what's going on in the world? Does that not affect them because their famous? What about art and expression? Are they not entitled to that?

>Broad brush references to riots and police doesn't make it anymore relevant now than it did back then, overarching themes like that have a tendency to float back into the conscious feeling of a political climate, it's nothing unique to me.

Did you listen to Who got the Camera? Ever since Rodney King, almost every time a black person gets killed under the police , it's video taped. Despite that, not much justice happens. How is that not relevant till this day?

Then politely shut the fuck up until you have the experience to give a valid opinion

If you seriously don't think it's okay for people to reference earth-shaking events like 9/11 in their lyrics, I think that's more or less a reductio of your position and you're just self-evidently wrong. If your standards were applied to movies or books, the mediums would be drained of all meaning.

There's obviously something valuable in listening to music that is historically rooted (as all music is at bottom). It's natural for people to write about what happens to them and to want to listen to music that refers to the world one lives in.

I recognize you may actually believe this, but if you do, your tastes diverge from those of 99.9999% of artistically inclined people and you're not going to convince anyone of it anymore than you're going to convince people that telling stories isn't important.

>cuck in 2017 minus three months
Opinion discarded.

>cuckold
Fuck off
F I L T E R E D

because the person that hits first is the one that started the fight
it's not illegal to walk around

>it's not illegal to walk around

Stalking is a criminal offense. Think twice about following your oneitis to her home

embarrassing post you mean, take your shit somewhere else.

rip Harambe
that nigga look just like me

lol go back to tumblr

>it's not illegal to walk around
Yeah, so why was Zimmerman following him? This is my last reply cuz I think I'm being baited

stalking needs to be habitual to be a crime
Zimmerman did not attempt an arrest at any point
look up the trial

Because zimmermans a racist bigot and was just recently punched in the face at a bar for bragging about killing trayvon. why he hasn't been locked up I'll never know but that piece of shit was looking for a problem that night, any one I've been around or had to deal with that was "neighborhood watch" was nothing but lonely shitty people.

lol what, what experience do I possibly need, your opinion is no more valid than my own.

>Do you also tell Holocaust survivors to "get over it" ? Or a person that mom's died in a car crash years ago to stop being obsessed about it? Let's be serious here, how the hell can you compare an tragedy to a trend? What if a musician actually gives a damn about what's going on in the world? Does that not affect them because their famous? What about art and expression? Are they not entitled to that?

Stop. Read over. I said I'm not against it and you're holding me up like I'm saying no artist is entitled to expression or commentary, just like fuckface here is saying I have no opinion, it's holding me up as accountable for stopping an artist from expression of any kind. You're practically arguing against arguments that were never made.

>Do you also tell Holocaust survivors to "get over it" ?
Seriously? You just leaped from 9/11 to 1945.

>Or a person that mom's died in a car crash years ago to stop being obsessed about it?
How's that political. I dont value political injection in music, that was my point.

>Did you listen to Who got the Camera? Ever since Rodney King, almost every time a black person gets killed under the police , it's video taped. Despite that, not much justice happens. How is that not relevant till this day?

You're inclining to debate me on the justice of modern police interactions with suspects, and also asking if thats relevant. Well again sounds pretty broad to me, I just don't listen to it and make that encapsulated slice of time talking about current stuff, and apply it to current events like it was meant to be or something. Why does that anger you.

so when did Sup Forums get invaded by Sup Forums

Yes, because walking around after dark in a hoodie in a neighborhood that previously had a string of robberies with female jewelry and a screwdriver in your backpack isn't suspicious, and clearly the response if you're really worried is "Double back around multiple houses and attack him" and "Not run the minute back home."

But whatever, I'll go to Sup Forums before I get told to go back there even though I wasn't there.

>Musicians should stop making reference to outdated events that happens to be tragic

>Where am I saying artists can't express themselves

???

>Seriously? You just leaped from 9/11 to 1945
2old4u

>I dont value political injection in music
Wouldn't an artists singing about their opinion about politics and society stand out as 3 dimensional? Like they're actually human beings that care? Not everything has to a cash grab to artists.

> Well again sounds pretty broad to me, I just don't listen to it and make that encapsulated slice of time talking about current stuff, and apply it to current events like it was meant to be or something. Why does that anger you.

It's not angering me. I could listen to Predator and say "wow, this album really hits home better than any other rap albums" because the message it gives. It's not being broad because it happens all the time, it wasn't just Rodney King that was beaten in the 90's.

I guarantee that op is a pasty white boy

>, because walking around after dark in a hoodie in a neighborhood that previously had a string of robberies with female jewelry and a screwdriver in your backpack isn't suspicious

So that justifies profiling black people? How about going after people that actually did do the crime?

so?

>female jewlery and screwdriver in a backpack
>Liked posting pictures on social media of him with guns he had illegally by almost any measure
>Walking around after dark in a hoodie in a neighborhood with a string of robberies
>First response when followed is violence

COMPLETELY INNOCENT GEE WHAT COULD HE HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY

Frankly probably didn't even see he was black at first. Maybe he was the one that did a crime. Who fucking knows. Oh, jeezum petes, it's all about profiling, nothing about criminality, fear, and any number of other things. Surely it's just because we see black people and go "yeah bet that nigger's up to something, better go lynch him."

Itt: dindus and anti-dindus travel back in time

>Elliot Rogers buys Machine guns and bombs
>Makes videos of him giving threats about "retribution"
>"Hmmm....okay what's the worst that could happen?"


>Trayvon walking back to his house
>Police don't have much evidence to track him down
>"Wez gots to catch em'"

Zimmerman was told to pull back because it wasn't necessary at the time to follow him.

Yeah, listen to the tape. He did, to a point. It wasn't a clear cut "Don't follow him" "THAT MEANS KEEP GOING WITH A PISTOL DRAWN RIGHT?" like it gets treated as. It's pretty clear he started going back and then got attacked. There's been many inspections of the thing. Including, you know, during a court case. With a jury of his peers. Wherein he was found innocent despite a gigantic media wave making the public practically call for his execution, and inspiring the President to say stupid shit and whole movements to form. But, you know, the courts don't matter for people who seek justice or something.

>Elliot Rodgers blah blah
Okay, two things.

1. What a false fucking strawman to jump to; that miserable faggot should have offed himself before he harmed a single other soul. It doesn't matter if he was white, or half white, or full Asian, or black, I don't pretend he was some exemplar that should have been left alone, and I don't think fucking ANYONE outside of some dumb half-ironic /r9k/ fucker. I don't conflate his actions with the rest of white people, much like I don't Travon with blacks.

2. He did what he did with knives, cars, and handguns. He did not have any machine guns or bombs. That legitimately didn't happen. Also, it totally had nothing to do with the fact he was a social outcast from an affluent family so nobody saw his slide and it came kind-of out of left-field before everyone saw his fucked up videos. Absolutely not.

I'd also remind you that he got those handguns in one of the states in the Union that is known as the most restrictive, for that matter. Had to register them with the state, pass a full background check, undergo multiple over-a-week-long waiting periods, and never have been adjudicated mentally deficient or likely to hurt others. It's not exactly like everyone saw it coming.

It doesn't help you to jump to wild conclusions and rattle off things that didn't happen.

>>

HE TALKED ABOUT ANOTHER "BLACK" PERSON

HOW WEIRD

>nigger tries to beat a man
>gets shot
>gets a shout out from frank ocean

>social commentary

how fucking plastic is american culture becoming where this drivel is social commentary?

>Thanks Frank for the current year commentaries that I'm sure will be so fresh years later. Keep your fucking politics out of music if you want a record to last.

That's silly logic. There are plenty of songs that reference events/people and have lasted. I see absolutely no reason why someone shouldn't do it.

Nobody keeps their strong feelings or "politics" out of their music. You just notice it and complain when it's something you don't like it.

You're obviously just unable to handle someone disagreeing with you because you are emotionally immature.

>t. hamza el haram

He beat zimmerman in self defence, do you how it feels to have someone follow you at night for no reason just looking for a problem? I bet not. I've had to deal with it before.

>attack person
>it was self defense

idiot

>i'm a white suburban kid in his early twenties THE POST

>do you how it feels to have someone follow you at night for no reason just looking for a problem? I bet not. I've had to deal with it before.

don't get distracted by he's an idiot

what we need to hear all about is what happened to you. every detail

i live in chicago you fucking retard

>attack person
>get shot
thats how it works you faggot

Yeah musicians shouldn't make reference to current events if said musicians want to keep their message relevant. End of thread. Don't reply cos none of you can argue with this. Album is otherwise dope.

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A kid fearing for his life because he was followed by a stranger late at night cannot get a pass?

>facts mean nothing i support hateful demagogues that hide behind supposedly rational opinions while flaunting baseless misinformation

>Keep your politics out of music if you want a record to last.
Folk, punk, hip-hop don't exist I guess

>Yeah musicians shouldn't make reference to current events if said musicians want to keep their message relevant

yeah, he should have turn this into a metaphore or something

he was just walking to a friends house. From my own experiances with people who are "neighborhood watch" are all stupid, lonely, sometimes old confrontational people. A perfect example of this, I've lived in this neighborhood for 9 years. Everyone knows who I am, some guy moves in, and starts following me in his truck. Staring, making threatening gestures like pointing at me, didnt stop until I called the cops and they told him to stop..His excuse he was neighborhood watch so he was a cop and he was waiting to arrest me..yeah, I would have loved for him to get out of that truck and put his hands on me.

So what I'm saying is I know what that feels like. It's not a good feeling to be followed around and not know who it is, or what they're intentions are. You're mind goes straight to the worse and you get ready to fight.

>This has all the makings of a 10/10 album if he just took the blinders off and focused on what that album could've meant for outside the month it was released in.
What are you talking about? I can't even think of anything else on this album that would be considered dated in the next five years. Hell, a decent amount of this shit was written years ago. There's videos of frank preforming songs from this album in like 2013.

Let's ignore all the 70's black music that was even more political than this then

>Come in thread expecting to see a download
>Instead it's people not old enough to be on Sup Forums being edgy and racist.

Joke's on me.

why would you expect a download?

No one makes lean with Arizona green tea and skittles dumbass. That's Sprite and jolly ranchers. Also if you follow someone down the street in an obvious attempt at stalking them, you're the one picking the fight.

I like you now Brandon

You should post more (t b h)

This very likely is the stupidest post Ive ever read

gibs zippy or mega pls