is the synthwave meme over yet?
Is the synthwave meme over yet?
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Whats the difference with vaporwave?
it's one step up from cloudrap, vaporwave, and dubstep. But still extremely niche, I would also say that their fan base is more loyal.
Carpenter Brut,Laserhawk,Dance with the Dead and Kavenski all made fun catchy tracks. But it lacks the originality and guts of projects that they're emulating from the 1980's or their peers who are trying to innovate
Stranger Things might have revitalized it.
vaporwave has a more satirical bent to it and doesn't necessarily use synths.
>Stranger Things
Good example and it seemed to fit the show pretty good.
Ever since Drive the "Indie" scene for movies and games have went crazy for it. Kung Fury is 1st in mind.
These people are fags
Synthwave is original compositions that rip off 80s horror and sci fi movie soundtracks.
Vaporwave is with few exceptions chopped and screwed pop music.
Because of the lol80s aesthetic of synthwave and the le early internet aesthetic of vaporwave the two get compared, but neither are similar in intention or composition, with most of the overlap due to vaporwave sampling music that synthwave is copying.
It's kind of funny that there is more variation and originality in vaporwave than synthwave.
>there is more variation and originality in vaporwave than synthwave.
lmao
Kung Fury is an interesting case. While they may be jumping on the whole retro 80s trend, it's still very clearly affectionate parody of a specific subset of the 80s (the ridiculous sci fi action movies). In a way it's the same kind of thing as Black Dynamite.
And part and parcel of a parody of 80s sci fi action movies is the soundtrack, so at the very least having a synthwave soundtrack is thematically appropriate, just as a parody of blaxploitation wouldn't be right without a funk/soul soundtrack.
Both are criminally bankrupt in creativity, but at least vaporwave is only 80% chopped and screwed MacPlus imitators. The fact it has Eyeliner and Home, Blank Banshee and Vaperror, all of the future funk kids, and the fucking Gundam album shows it has a modicum of variety.
Synthwave on the other hand is literally the same repetitive pseudo-soundtrack John Carpenter imitation. The only variation I've seen is whether they're copying a sci fi movie soundtrack or a horror movie soundtrack.
>Both are criminally bankrupt in creativity
Clearly stated this point from get go. I would say almost every """Vaporwave Artist"""(except maybe Saint Pepsi,Com Truise, and Chuck Person) will sound the same. If they seem more diverse it's because they have more genres to lazily rip off(cloud ambient,cloud rap, plunderphonics, future funk). I'd rather hear one good imitation rether than 100 bad ones.
Not a Kung Fury fan myself. Give me Turbo Kid any day. Better soundtrack too.
>I would say almost every """Vaporwave Artist"""(except maybe Saint Pepsi,Com Truise, and Chuck Person) will sound the same
You would be wrong, because of exactly the people I listed.
>I'd rather hear one good imitation rether than 100 bad ones.
So not synthwave, then.
so, most of you don't like synthwave?
shame its a nice genre.
It's okay. I prefer it as a soundtrack while I'm watching/playing a movie/tv-show/game rather than on its own.
i use it for gym music and vidya
however i feel like most of the complaints are very unfair. it doesn't all sound the same, its just a very specific arrangement and synth.
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i'm a brazilian producer and i'm working on a minimalist synthwave album!
also this, to me synthwave is a genre that doesn't sustain itself just with the music, it seems to me that there is always this need of graphic material or cool narratives and concepts to make synthwave project more interesting
That's just your opinion man. I'd rather take compositions that can sound fast and slow over slowed down samples of songs mixed with 808s and google text to speech over it personally. People doing vaporwave are moving on to other things and synthwave is more popular than ever.
its not bad.
you got an album yet?
>graphic material or cool narratives
isn't that a fair bit of all media?
the juxtaposition of any music with a concept makes for a more enjoyable experience.
whilst vaporwave is a genre that has many applictions ( vaporwave with any bleep genre would be great) you are typecasting synthwave.
its got many variations, and here you go saying its all the same.
Why is it that people say vaporwave "is dead"?
I kinda see that as disappointing because I don't think it ever met it's full potential, if blank banshee is the peak of the genre then that's really underwhelming (not that I don't love blank banshee) because I feel like vaporwave had a lot more potential
"vaporwave is dead" is just the catchphrase WOSX uses to promote his new project.
i mean, i wouldn't say it's a nice genre but it's still comfy. ya feel me?
yeah fair enough
yep, i made nite ride 1 but it was my first try as a producer and it came out really bad... not proud of it. check it if u want niteride.bandcamp.com
and about the concept etc etc... the thing to me is that synthwave more than so much other genres, without this group of aesthetically converging elements is a very small experience compared to more conventional music that sometimes with just a track and good lyrics can be a huge experience... but of course, this is not an rule or a pattern, it is just my overall impression about this genre
The Best part of Kung Fury is also the most original and overlooked part: The nazi moustache argument, it's subtlety is part of what makes it so great and also why so many miss the joke. Also I get to feel special for getting it.
I absolutely love synthwave. I Pick a lot of my favorite Music based on how it helps me picture scenes, feelings and atmospheres.
I've been shitting on it in this thread but I don't hate it. Most of synthwave is incredibly generic and boring but that doesn't make it bad.
Most of the synthwave I do like sounds like horror movies, which makes sense to me, because I've been listening to horror movie soundtracks on their own since I was a kid.
Whatever you tell yourself dude.
im not a huge fan of the whole album.
shits kinda not fleshed out for what i can get
what artists?
to me vaporwave is more interesting because it draws from people like James Ferraro and have this satirical approach that could surely be dismissed as a meme.
someone said le old internet meme and this is true also in the sense that lots of their schtick come from some early internet hacker/anarchist techniques
>what artists?
Umberto and Xander Harris primarily. Perturbator has a couple albums I like too, but even then it's still cheesier than I would like.
I am still waiting on synthwave to move out of the 80s and embrace the 90s, incorporating EBM and industrial in order to expand outside the neon aesthetic they're trapped in.
Hell, I'm still waiting on a chiptune fusion. You would think they would jump on the opportunity to Atari, but not yet, apparently.
i like Dance With The Dead:
xander and umberto sound good.
but yeah i agree to some extent.
they need more creativity to branch out and incorporate some other genres.
also on that chiptune.
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