Discuss the awesome Canuck electronic artist Claire Boucher known as Grimes.
Suggested topics:
>How and when did you find out about her?
>Rank/rate her albums and post your favorite songs of hers.
>Did you see her live? Do you plan to?
>Who would you like to see her collab with?
Some cool stuff:
New! (FYF Fest 2016): Downloads: reddit.com
Important: genius.com
Try to keep it music related, be nice to Grimes and to each other! MODS, DON'T DELETE THESE LEGIT THREADS!!!
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WTF just happened to the previous thread?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
A mod deleted it. Why? God knows...
tfw you learn Sup Forums isn't actually uncensored, they censor every thread that isn't rockist, misogynist and racist off the boards, leaving only the alt right cancer. mods, suck grimes pen15.
/Goblin Waifu/
I don't understand these mods. Maybe lots of haters reported these threads. I don't get why they deleted a good thread, with actual discussion. They should leave us alone. Or else...
Thought on the FYF performance?
>Grimes Live at FYF Fest 2016:
00. Laughing and Not Being Normal
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01. REALiTi
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02. Flesh Without Blood
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03. Venus Fly
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04. Art Angels (Interlude)
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05. Go
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06. Genesis
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07. Scream (feat. Aristophanes)
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08. Ave Maria (Franz Schubert Cover
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09. Oblivion
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10. World Princess Part II
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11. Kill V. Maim
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I'm not going to rate your wife's daughter
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You ---> FIFY. Bon appetit.
A moronic troll created multiple legit-looking Grimes threads in the hopes of tricking a mod into deleting the actual one, and apparently got lucky. Welcome to Sup Forums.
Maybe Claire was lurking and didn't liked something
>Partly because of the way she narrates it, it’s the larger-than-life aspects of Boucher’s story that stand out most: the French-Canadian grandfather who taught her how to shoot a rifle when she was in elementary school; the strict, hyper-athletic family that counts Olympian ice-dancers in its ranks; the Catholic schooling, and the years of pre-professional ballet training, and the locker hall bullies. A Wiccan phase in seventh grade petered out after she “got cursed”: “I was casting a spell, but the rosary crumbled in my hands, and it was really scary,” Boucher remembers. Ballet training ground to a halt when she showed up to class one day with a shaved head: “I think at some point in grade eight, I started smoking pot. I was just listening to System of a Down. I would show up to ballet, and all the kids would make fun of me, and no matter where I went everyone thought I was insane, so I was just, like, ‘I cannot be here. I have to do something so I cannot be forced to do this anymore.’” By the end of high school, these same contradictory impulses—the rigorous self-discipline of an art-form like ballet, combined with a longing for escape—would surface again in her projected career path. Boucher matriculated to McGill University in Montreal in 2006, thinking she was going to be an astrophysicist.
>That didn’t end up happening, though the course load she tasked herself with was probably no less ambitious: a double major in philosophy and “the science side of psychology,” with minors in Russian language and a field called electro-acoustics, a realm of neuroscience concerned with the way the brain processes noise. “We did, like, psycho-physics and shit,” says Boucher. “I never took calculus, and you [were supposed] to take calculus to get in, so I constantly had to be teaching myself calculus behind the class. I mostly just tried to prove that I could.”
Wait a minute: they don't verify the posts/threads before deleting something? Are they that dumb? They clearly saw that last thread had over 50 posts.
eww
>Sup Forums - Music
>In retrospect, her attraction to mathematical problem-solving seems to foreshadow her present-day preoccupation with the technical aspects of music production. Still, science’s allure wasn’t strong enough to keep her on track for a career in brain research, especially after the summer of her junior year, when she left Montreal with a friend to live on a houseboat on the Mississippi River. The story, she says, was wildly blown out of proportion by the handful of local newspapers that picked it up at the time, though some of the finer details were true: “We did actually have chickens, but we gave them away because it’s not nice to bring chickens on a boat,” she says. “And then we had some ducks, but they escaped. Ach! I shouldn’t say this. We didn’t have a typewriter, and we weren’t trying to do Huck Finn. The main thing that’s true is the potatoes. We had lots of sacks of potatoes, but that’s not that weird.” Eventually, the cops caught up with them, and the boat was impounded.
Wild and awesome.
GRIMES PROFILE
>Full name: Claire Elise Boucher
>Born: 17 March 1988 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
>Origin: Québécois, Ukrainian, Russian and Italian descent
>Instruments: vocals, synthesizer, sampler, keyboard, guitar, bass, drums, violin, ukulele
>Skills:
- singer
- songwriter
- producer
- sound engineer
- lyricist
- live performer
- visual artist
- music video director & editor
- dancer
- model
>Main interests:
Music, visual arts, dancing, books, films, modeling, video games, internet, and others
>Music taste:
last.fm
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en.wikipedia.org
pandora.com
>Others:
- Grimes does everything in her music, from singing and songwriting to artwork and production
- nice personality, beautiful look, cares about environment issues and saving animals
- took her name from grime music after discovering the existence of the genre on Myspace
- studied ballet for 11 years
- was a goth outcast in high school
- studed neuroscience, philosophy, and Russian literature and McGill University before being dropped out for missing classes
- had some troubles in the past: drugs, 2 friends died because of overdosing drugs, sexual assault, shitty jobs, the professor who got her into a music program killed himself
- started making music when she was around the age of 22 or 23
- big Lord of the Rings, Dune, Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Abbess Hildegard von Bingen and Russian literature fan
- her best friends are James Brooks, Hana, Bloodpop, Duffy, Born Gold
THEY RUINED IT
pretty cool
always cool to see Grimes be Claire (meaning more human n shit)
Seems to me as though Aristophanes is kind of not comfortable with performing to large crowds yet, or just not used to it
(please stop leaving out "Everything is a little nuts")
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there are lots of footages of her with skrillex, so I guess he's also one of her best friends
This guy is an ugly ass hipster, he won't include him, mark my words.
Did you just look in a mirror and saw an ugly ass hipster? Congrats, you're indeed an ugly ass hipster.
wow, I'm just rek'd
They're very special friends.
>(please stop leaving out "Everything is a little nuts")
It's tricky - there's already a published setlist for the performance out there ( setlist.fm
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Damn...
D E S T R O Y E D
Calm down, just calm down.
I really love Hana's backing vocal for Realiti live, and she's a hottie
Damn...
fucking ell
her last album sucked tho
>be nice to Grimes and to each other!
>he's literally killing the man
ehh
It didn't. Listen to it more.
GRIMES IS LOVE
GRIMES IS LIFE
GRIMES IS EVERYTHING
this is what I call humiliation
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are you ok?
oh, to be a fly on the wall in their hotel room...
>That’s why, in describing the unique, at times painfully paradoxical position she occupies in the pop world, she’s probably more inclined to align herself with Nine Inch Nails mastermind and inveterate DIY-er Trent Reznor than anybody else: “Trent Reznor started out making music on computers,” she says. “He was smart. He was into math. He was coming at it from an intellectual perspective and a scientific perspective. He made Pretty Hate Machine all by himself. That’s where I came from.” In returning to the alternative rock sounds she gravitated to in high school—not just in Reznor but also in mainstream iconoclasts like Marilyn Manson and Billy Corgan—she says she’s also coming home to the truth of the Grimes project: “Representing the alternative,” she says. “Not having to answer to a big label. Not having to answer to anyone artistically, but also being visible. I think being visible is important to me because I’m trying to represent something politically.” I ask her what she thinks that is. “That women can do technical work,” she says without missing a beat. “That I can be a producer and a pop star and also very experimental.”
damn, kind of weird that Claire keeps putting up pictures of a sleeping Hana
Assuming that was her
(which account was this on?)
It was Bloodpop, her boyfriend, I think
Why does she have three copies of her own album under her coffee table
don't you mean he (Bloodpop)
also, why would you not have hella albums of your own
I'd have, like, a test pressing of my album.
I wouldn't keep multiple final copies of my album around...for what? To hand out? It ain't a fucking cd-r I burned myself. Buy that shit in the record shop.
more pics of sleeping grimes when
For those of you who doubt her musical ability
"(on Flesh without Blood)
The song is known for its harmonic sophistication[11] and extensive use of inverted chords, including third inversions such as B7/A. The first chord of the verse (D major/A) is a non-diatonic chord. The tonic chord (E major) usually only appears with the major 3rd or the 5th in the bass. The entire verse progression sounds restless and ambiguous, until the line ""I don't see the light I saw in you before" when the chord progression finally reaches a clear goal (A–E/G#–F#m7–E). This has been cited by musicologists as a good example of how lyrical meaning can be supported and enhanced by a chord progression—along with the melody hook which also provides an example of "a sense of increasing melodic energy that comes by way of the gradually ascending line".[12] Stephen Downes similarly named the song's "tonal plasticity" emphasized by the disuse of authentic cadences and root-position tonics as the reason for its "expansiveness".[11] In musicologist Philip Lambert's opinion, the song's vocal counterpoint evokes the sacred traditions of a cantata by Johann Sebastian Bach or an oratorio by George Frideric Handel.[13] Andy Gill of the post-punk band Gang of Four describes the composition:
It’s really very like the way classical music works, like a classical opera, say Lakme by Delibes. The melody rises and falls while the echo of that melody, sung by another voice, intertwines with it. Then it goes back to the verse, with its own melody, which is a variation on the chorus melody. As that is sung, the background voices provide an abstract, disconnected harmony. All the time, upfront, is the poetic heart of the lyric.[14]
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The key gravitates between A major and E major,[15][16] while the bass-line was written in a different key from the rest of the song.[17] Music theorist Daniel Harrison compared the song to an earlier Boucher composition, "Oblivion", as it both avoids a root-position tonic and suppresses a cadential drive.[18] It also contains a step-wise descending bass-line like Boucher 's other compositions on the Visions album.[19] Dominic King believed the barbershop flat seventh saved the song from "excessive sentimentality".[20]
After its instrumental linking passage, the key ascends to its fourth interval.[21] According to author Jim Fusilli: "Boucher came pretty close to writing himself into a dead end. There's really nowhere to go coming out of the bridge, which modulates to G major from D major but ends with a D major–A major–B minor pattern. Thus, when the song returns to D Major, it must do so from B minor, which is kind of a static change, particularly when the next chord is a B minor with only a slight variation in the bass."[22] Along with the 8+4 measure verse/chorus scheme, Downes called the idea of a "bridge section in a related key" standard for synth-pop music, but adds: "What is different here, however, is how the move to the subdominant in the bridge conditions the tonal behavior of the entire song, which, though nominally in E Major, is characterized throughout by a tension between it and A major."[11] The "choral fantasy" during this key change eventually concludes that "a clear sense has eluded us for the entire experience–that in fact, the idea of 'key' has itself been challenged and subverted", in Lambert's opinion.[15]
The song closes with perpetual rounds, a centuries-old technique that was not normally heard in 21st century pop music"
what is our resident classically trained musician's opinion on this?
gambang phase
it holds up, god only knows how she did it
Cool explanation. I bet you're the classical music guy. ;)
Nice photoshopped nose lmao. Even she knows.
It's very little photoshopped. It's very close to her real nose
watching these videos it looks to me like 90% of what she is doing onstage is just an act... as in not actually making the sounds.
I want to believe I am wrong but the more I watch the more obvious it is
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thats our girl
Grimes is making sounds in the same way acts like Daft Punk, The Chemical Brothers, Underworld or Orbital are doing: mainly by manipulating samples. Her setup consists of:
- 1 synth: she occasionaly plays melodies on it.
- 1 sampler: this is the core of her setup. She starts and stops samples, loop samples, add various effects of them and other things. These samples (bits of her songs) are pre-recorded.
- 1 vocal pedal: this adds effects on her voice; many times she changes various parameters while using it.
- 1 small mixer: for mixing all those sound sources.
- 1 pedal board with various effects.
- 1 guitar: used occasionally.
- syndrums.
- microphone.
>not actually making the sounds
That's completely false. She doesn't play any sound live (that would be impossible) but a lot of her live music is improvised and it depends on what buttons she presses. Also her singing is live.
she is not ours, we are hers.
It's a pretty good copypasta. I'm currently attempting to identify what piece of music it is actually talking about just from the actual harmonic analysis itself (because I am apparently that much of a masochist) but I'm 100% certain that it isn't Flesh Without Blood, since FWB is rooted in Eb major (making the entirety of this analysis invalid.) Also, Boucher also gets referred to as a he in several places...
Fyi in behavioral psychology circles it's known as the placebo effect. With the exception of controlling whether the guitar is muted or not (which is controlled by her sound guy - mentioned in a fairly recent interview) everything else is controlled by her. I know this for a fact because I was at the infamous Barclays performance where she abruptly left the stage mid-song, and got to hear first-hand what happens when she isn't up there constantly pressing buttons... which is that the musical components of her songs gradually discombobulate before disappearing entirely.
It was actually a very interesting/impressive thing to witness - despite the otherwise unpleasantness of the situation - since it proved incontrovertibly that she is in complete and constant control of the sounds you hear. Imo one of the things that makes her live act so amazing is that she has essentially turned studio-level sound production into a form of live performance art.
just finished watching the tour diaries and I feel empty now
have some stupid screenshots
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Me ( ) again. I caved. It's an analysis of God Only Knows from Pet Sounds:
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Which is to say that one era's pop music can most definitely be described as a later era's classical music (and even rightfully so, when the music's well written.) Which is where I fully expect the bulk of Claire's music to eventually find itself a home in the annals of musicologists - even sooner than many might think.
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the drumstick things in particular were what triggered it for me.
don't understand why they use this drumkit, most of the drums are in the track anyway
same about guitar
to make it look more live
At the beginning of the song Hana is playing some hi-hats (you can clearly hear them over the instrumental). During the song they're less noticeable because the instrumental drowns them out. That drumkit is not essential but it adds a live element.
She could make Hana play the whole guitar part, and add these hi-hats into the track. It would be more live.
Yes. But Grimes is a damn control freak. She wants to play a bit of guitar first. In meantime Hana must do something and not just dancing.
Maybe on her next tour she will put Hana on the command center to play synths and samplers while Grimes dances and sings. But I doubt it.
Gimes playing a keytar. Good or bad idea?
Grimesians, report this dumb fake thread:
but it's hilarious. that picture actually got me until I looked closely
It's not hilarious at all. And it puts this very thread in danger. Mods are trigger-happy.
why do mods hate grimes? are they afraid of a successful producer not being a man?
non diatonic chords literally means she made a mistake. unplanned and unsophisticated
Lmao look who knows so much about music.
what would you say
if I told you
Grimes was reading this thread right NOW
ok
How? Prove it.
is that seriously what you'd say
what a waste
Seriously how do you know she was reading this thread now? Based on what?
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>"voignamirians" lol
>8:12 PM - 28 Aug 2016
Deleted. Screenshot?
Maybe someone sent her a link to this thread.
dude do you really believe everything you read here