Taiwan is probably going to be the first east Asian country to legalize same sex marriage

>Taiwan is probably going to be the first east Asian country to legalize same sex marriage
Why was Asia opposed to same sex marriage in the first place? They were never really Christian/Islamic. Also, I keep hearing that feminists have a ton of power in South Korea, if that's true, why hasn't same sex marriage been legalized in SK?

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Taiwan combines the worst qualities of the west with the worst qualities of the east

>t. Xi Jinping

>only religious society's oppose gay marriage

Who is that guy?

Asia has been colonized and influenced by western ideals. Which basically masculinity equals to number/quality of woman a man can bed with.

SK
Is still in Victorean period when it comes to sex.

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>Harold Frederick Shipman[2] (14 January 1946 – 13 January 2004) was a British GP and one of the most prolific serial killers in recorded history. On 31 January 2000, a jury found Shipman guilty of 15 murders, but an inquiry after his conviction confirmed he was responsible for at least 218. He was sentenced to life imprisonment and the judge recommended that he never be released.

All in all, a pretty fun guy to have around

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>Why was Asia opposed to same sex marriage in the first place? They were never really Christian/Islamic
You don't need to be religious to understand homosexuality is mental retardation. Gays have mental probelm.

>Why was Asia opposed to same sex marriage in the first place?
Western influence, probably. In any case it'll probably soon be continent-wide outside of religious places.

They have a psychological disorder desu

Psychology hasn't considered homosexuality a mental disorder since the 1970s.

This. Based Japan
cdc.gov/msmhealth/std.htm
>2% of the population
>83% of the syphilis
Yo they need to quit that self abuse and find Jesus, for their own good

For reasons of morality or actual psychological evidence?

>Also, I keep hearing that feminists have a ton of power in South Korea, if that's true, why hasn't same sex marriage been legalized in SK?
They're a marginal group. Western SJW media pumps them full of hot air to make them seem more important than they are. SK is in reality an extremely conservative country.

A bit of both, especially since mental disorders themselves tend to be social constructs.

You don't need to be psychologist to know the obvious. Life exists to breed. If you cant breed, you are disabled. You can be infertile. You can be born without dick. Or you can be gay. Gays can't breed. Only conclusion is that gays is therefore disabled. You can throw your definitions by psychologist in the trash bin. Is where they belong. They all support gay too, part of agenda.

>2% of the population
>83% of the syphilis
And most school shootings are per capita carried out by white boys. Why do we let white families own guns if whites are so dangerous?

Because fuck off and don't touch muh freedoms, that's why. Let people live their goddamned lives you totalitarian fuck.

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If you value freedom so much, why are you trying to shut me up for expressing my opinion, eh? GG.

human sexuality is more complex than simply for the sake of breeding.
Sex is also a form of social interaction

>Sex is also a form of social interaction
How so? You have sex when you meet new people? Or do you prefer keep it to family?

>Let people live their goddamned lives you totalitarian fuck.
This, which is pretty much why Sodomy laws are unconstitutional in the US

We love new technology but not new social system. That's it.

What about 双成り?

People who into that are fucked up in head. Sick help if you can.

Disgusting.

Sodomy is just as "normal" as necrophilia or zooophilia.

Nobody cares, as long as you do it in private.

Who said nobody cares? I care if the neighbor next door fucks corpse, or dogs.

Well as long as they don't break the law, that is.

What I tried to say is that sodomy is equally disgusting for a normal man as zoophilia, and sodomites need to understand this.

How is it sick when it's so cute.

I can understand that you might like it, and is ok to like it, but it is clearly not normal as you should know. How about you share that with your parents?

society too affected by the west
i.e. law, media

Taiwan will seize to exist soon

I'd better not. But hermafrodites exist in real world. And art is not usually to be understood as "normal" from some poins of view.

it's cease

>But hermafrodites exist in real world
So do pedophiles.
What's your point

English isn't my first language.

Your comparison is inadequate. Just think about what you proposed. Pedohilia is socially unacceptable behaviour.

>this coming from the most sexless country on earth

He's not preventing you from doing anything, he's disagreeing with you.

The chart doesn't reflect real situation. The overall population density of Taiwan is very high now and will not cease any time soon.

Yea that's fair enough. However, Leaf used the word "totalitarian", but there were no authoritarian tendencies in the post he's responding to.

I've been to china, it SSSSSSSSSSSSSUCKS. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY?

>Why was Asia opposed to same sex marriage in the first place? They were never really Christian/Islamic.
Because historically China saw homosexuality as
1) An (extreme) upgrade in a same-sex friendship and
2) A sexual fetish.

LGBT is inherently fucking western. But in China, traditionally, they recognized only two genders: male and female. If a man wants to fuck another man he's not gay: he just likes to. If a woman does the same, the above applies.

That said, a man is still bound by filial duty to raise a family and homo man will- without compunction- marry out of duty. This is why in China, homo fuckbuddies often married, fathered children, but still fuck each other on the side.

Ergo from a traditional Chinese perspective, gay marriage makes absolutely no fucking sense. Why the fuck would you marry your best friend? Another man? Does nothing for the family. Also congrats in telling everyone you have such a sexual fetish, you'll be the talk of the village.

Why does that sleeve thing sound familiar?

That is indeed a glorious legend.

>based Japan
>digitally high-fiving a white piggu English teacher

Literally how fucking new are you?

Muhammad did the same thing for his cat.

A Hadith one said that Muhammad had a cat, Muezza, which he loved fondly. One day Muhammad heard the summons to prayer and got up but found the cat sleeping on a sleeve or hem of his robe. So he took out his dagger and cut the fabric rather than disturb the cat.

so did he fall asleep with scissors in his hands?

>I can't see a use for it, therefore it's contrary to "nature"
>or at least my definition thereof

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

Give me my right to high five LARPing English teachers or give me death.

The real Emperor Ai would probably had a dagger and used that instead. But as with said, it's a legend.

WTF, I love Taiwan now

>tfw no asian BF

Opinions should be held for a reason. It's not enough of an argument that something should be opposed just because it's not customary.
Gay marriage might be contrary to nature according to some reasoning, but that's no argument either. Plenty of good ideas are against nature. If you look at how the most "natural" peoples live, you should be grateful to live in an unnatural society.

Also, gay marriage has no effect on people who don't get gay married so what's the point in seeing it as a threat, anyway?

...because the LGBT lobby demanded they take it off the list of mental illnesses.

We shouldn't legitimize or give legal recognition to degenerate behavior is why.

Gee I wonder who could be behind this post...

Define degenerate

Folsom Street Fair would be an example.

>Wanting to ban things that don't hurt or effect you
>Totally not totalitarianism guys!
How's that nanny state working for ya?

It won't make gay people less gay if you deny them rights or make their lives more unpleasant.
Conversely, living in a non-discriminating society doesn't convert straight people to gays. Homos gonna homo, the rest of us won't.

I don't really care about degeneracy in itself so I'd be interested in seeing the practical harm caused by legitimizing it. As far as I can see, discrimination of gays is a pretty good proxy for a country being an undeveloped shithole. The regions that are the most pleasant for gays tend to be highly developed, stable and safe for everyone

I dont see how thats degenerate

kek, based japan did it again

This is the SJW Finn troll. Please don't feed it.

It's legal in Japan.

The thing I never got about fag marriage is why exactly you need a piece of paper to fuck a dude's poopy butt.

(You) and (You)r cunt in general

Quote where that post says "ban sodomy". I'll wait.

>I don't really care about degeneracy in itself so I'd be interested in seeing the practical harm caused by legitimizing it

I know, I know. If only we all dropped those outdated bourgeois ideas of the nuclear family, and if only we were all doing it in the road with everything, man, woman, or animal, the world would be a better place.

Taking away rights from people for arbitrary reasons is the core of totalitarianism. You've not stated it directly, but your stance appears to be that homosexuality shouldn't be allowed, or that homosexuals should go through conversion therapy.

I unironically agree. Or well, no animals perhaps, and why on a road?

They can do whatever the fuck they want in the privacy of their home. The line gets crossed when they use sex as a political weapon.

How did they use sex as a political weapon. They loved eachother and wanted to get married but couldn't because the laws wouldn't let them. How is asking for equal rights using sex as a political weapon?

>I know, I know. If only we all dropped those outdated bourgeois ideas of the nuclear family, and if only we were all doing it in the road with everything, man, woman, or animal, the world would be a better place.

So you assume that if we don't persecute sexual minorities, normal people will eventually be converted to them? This hasn't happened.

I ask people about the practical harm because it shouldn't be that hard to find it. There are countries that don't ban gay sex and even countries that recognize gay marriage. If there are practical disadvantages to it, we should be seeing them already.

>So you assume that if we don't persecute sexual minorities

That was never claimed. What I did claim was

no
same sex marriage has never been legalized here

Actually school shootings are a rare and pretty racially balanced crime. The media over hypes them.

Faggotry isn't love, it's about fucking as many guys asses as you can in fag nightclubs and bathhouses.

The Aussie is shitposting as usual.

>Singapore at 0.81
>It's kinda my fault
>mfw

Australia nails it. Now how the fuck do you think AIDS happened? Not from attending your grandma's church bake sale.

>Rare
Yes
>racially balanced
Depends on, masshotings isnt but shooting people in a school might be.

That said 80% of murders is by gangs (so mostly blacks, mexicans and some WT nazis)

They used faggotry as a weapon for Marxist class struggle. This goes back to the New Left of the 1960s which redefined the proletariat as being women, non-whites, and LGBT rather than industrial workers.

How come AIDS is most common in countries with the thoughest anti gay laws then?

That said most men wants sex more than they want love wich means that when men meet other men both knows that they just want to fugg. So thats what they do.

>M-muh totalitarianism
>Don't take away my cummies! Muh tingles!
This is true. God bless m8.

Frankly AIDS should be renamed back to GRIDS.
cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/

>Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men made up an estimated 2% of the population but 55% of people living with HIV in the United States in 2013.

>Gay and bisexual men aged 13 to 24 accounted for an estimated 92% of new HIV diagnoses among all men in their age group and 27% of new diagnoses among all gay and bisexual men.

>HIV diagnoses increased among gay and bisexual men overall from 2005 to 2014—and increased sharply among African American and Hispanic/Latino gay and bisexual men.

Two men can't love each other the same way a man can love a woman. It's impossible due to basic human nature. Also gay culture is degrading to the practitioners since it just turns men into nothing but a piece of meat with no value outside their body.

Commies are bad but faggots who want to marry isnt.

>society's

Eh, why did I expect a Brit to get why banning things because you disagree with them is wrong. Hope the porn minister gives you an extra minute today!

naw its great m8
its China as it should have been but tiny
also I like their food, its a nice bridge between South Asian and North Asian

Since faggots only get to fuck other faggots that means that they are much more likely to fuck a person with HIV to, so there isnt really any way to stop this.

I really doubt this is the reason
you overstate the impact of "western ideals" on the big east Asian societies.

in reality everyone finds gay people weird regardless of religion

Well it wasn't them doing it at first, it was other people forcing it onto them, and since none of you would support them, they had to go with a group that would.

No fag actually wants to be married and have a family, but they do want to create mock marriage to destroy the whole institution. We're just dirty breeder scum as far as they're concerned.

Also my apologies for that one Aussie fag who shits up Sup Forums with gay spam threads. Fuck that guy.

How do you explain native American societies that didn't stigmatize homosexuality them? Pic related, the Inca left a ton of these (the Spanish destroyed all but a few though).

Yes. The love between members of the same gender is expressed in what the Greeks called "philia", the love of comradery. "Eros", erotic love, God has reserved exclusively for a man and a woman.
One day you'll grow up and leave that cultural libertarianism behind. It's going to lead you to a dead end. All hedonism does. Then, if you turn to Christ, you'll find true fulfillment.
That's not to mention the huge rates of promiscuity amongst gay men. Even in gay ""marriages"", promiscuity is rampant.

From the leftist newspaper "the Daily Beast"
>"In a 2013 column for Slate, Hanna Rosin called non-monogamy the gay community’s “dirty little secret,” citing a study from the ’80s, which showed that up to 82 percent of gay couples had sex with other people."

So was homosexuality up until VERY recently, like 20 years.

>forcing it onto them