Ok so I know most Americans only speak english and very few speak spanish, but most have grown up learning spanish in school. I also am aware a lot of Europeans speak more than one language in comparison
My question is how many people in the UK speak more than english? I feel like the UK is generally more "On its own" so I feel like many might only speak english. What are you taught in school as a secondary language? French?
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In school we are usually taught either French, Spanish or German. Depending on where you live you could also be taught Welsh, Irish, Cornish, Scots, Scots Gaelic or Ulster Scots.
Do most citizens become fluent in at least one other language?
>ulster scots
>Scots
Is this some standardised variety, or just the local Scots dialect?
Nah. From what I can remember 20% can speak French, then 5-10% can speak German and Spanish. 2% can speak Scots 1% can speak Welsh.
>Scots is often regarded as one of the ancient varieties of English, yet it has its own distinct dialects.Alternatively, Scots is sometimes treated as a distinct Germanic language, in the way Norwegian is closely linked to, yet distinct from, Danish.
Yeah, I know what Scots is. I just don't know how they teach it; is there a standardised variety across Scotland, or do they just teach whatever dialect they speak in that specific area?
Don't know too much desu. They were complaining that it wasn't being taken seriously a while back, kids being taught to 'write the words as they sound in your head' and shit.
Does anyone actually care about those languages besides ethnic nationalists? Celtic languages are neat but they're pretty useless today.
Not really. Some English people learn Welsh to make themselves look fancy.
What the fuck are you on about? Scots as in Scottish Gaelige? It's a variant of Irish
Ulster Scots is badly spelled English and has nothing to do with germanic languages
It's mostly French or Spanish taught as the second language here, some do German though. I did all of them after begging my school to let me.
A second language generally only starts getting taught at the age of 11 or 12 and most people stop around 14 or 15. It's not enough time to become fluent, or even enough to hold a conversation after they leave high school. Regional languages are more taught in the house than at school.
Northern Ireland pls keep the autism to a minimum.
>Ulster Scots is badly spelled English and has nothing to do with germanic languages
last time i checked, english was a germanic language
Nothing i said was autistic
>northern ireland
No such thing
The majority of words in modern English are derived from Old English
>The majority of words in modern English are derived from Old English
what's your point?
>Nothing i said was autistic
Northern Ireland pls. Keep the autism down.
>Implying we remember the Spanish we are taught.
Unless of course you live in one of the unfortunate areas down south.
That it's not a Germanic language
This is some nigger tier WE WUZ
>That it's not a Germanic language
???
please tell me you're baiting
>the lines on this image say I'm correct, therefore I'm correct
Naw you're alright lad
>High German is below low German
Bud why?
what's your definition of a germanic language?
also that 20% accounts for your royal family and nobility for which French is the native and/or ancestral language
English is a mutt language
We use Scots in day to day speech but don't get taught how to write it. Some people just make up their own spellings so you have variations like 'dinny' and 'dinnae'
In reality it looks fucking stupid on text and should only be used orally.
A language spoken/invented/derived by a Germanic people
It's compulsory to take language lessons from year 7 to year 9 (age 11-14). French is probably the most common foreign language taught in schools, then German, then Spanish. I think Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland might teach regional languages as well.
Despite learning a foreign language for three years, most people can't really speak it very well. I have a GSCE in French and I would never have felt that I was confident enough to speak with an actual French person (although the fact that I'm an autist who can barely hold a conversation in English probably has some bearing on that).
>In reality it looks fucking stupid on text and should only be used orally.
ye cannae be sayin' tha' bout me leid.
>we use scots day to day
That's called having an accent and some slang you spacker
You don't see Cork writing in their accent and claiming it's a language
so how does english not fit that definition?
Northern Irish people are needlessly autistic about these sorts of things.
The English aren't Germanic. And the English is a land from England, not central Europe
Is a language from England*
You clearly know nothing about Scots if you think it's just an accent. It uses entirely different words or has completely different spellings for existing ones.
I know you're butt mad about being colonised but you can still acknowledge Scots exists. I'm sorry it shatters your safe space.
>scots exists
Lad please you're embarrassing yourselves
the scottish language died centuries ago, wanting to be a particularist by phonetically writing the English language a Scottish language does not make.
It would be like if there was a sudden Breton revival here where people just start speaking with a weird accent and writing words differently.
Have you been to Scotland?
yes, my last gf was from there
Well you're throwing shit at a brick wall, linguist definition is a language that fits within the "germanic" family, mostly based on word formation and grammar. It doesn't have anything to do with the actual people.
Persian is Indo-Euro by the way despite borrowing a massive portion of it's vocabulary, and it's alphabet from Semetic languages. Linguistics does not work how you think it does.
Can't even explain himself
nope
At most, people can speak a few words of the language they study in school
I did German in what would be Grades 6, 7 & 8 in the US, but I wouldn't even say I have a basic understanding of it now. I also did French in Grade 7, but my French is worse than my German.
There are very few people who actually get good at a language they study in school, and even then the only reason they become good is because they either went to a private school, a school that specialises in languages, or had a parent who was fluent in the language.
Explains the butthurt
kek
I think you underestimate how long it takes to become "good" at a language.
There's also about a billion studies that say it becomes easier to learn a language the younger you are.
Teaching 11 year olds a language for only three years isn't going to get you good results.
Why ?
We separated on friendly terms when our life conditions changed and neither of us were willing to commit yet.
There is no butthurt in me and I actually have a high opinion of Scotland and its people.
Some linguists say Scots is a language. Some say it's a dialect. There are even some absolute madmen who say every accent in English is a dialect and Scots is a dialect through that.
That's the right attitude Pierre. Let go of the hate and Moira might take you back. I'll give her a good pumping in the mean time to keep her happy.
>And the English is a land from England, not central Europe
I have no idea what you're trying to say but England is part of Europe
I just told you I don't want her back.
French was mandatory at my school until year 10, then you had a choice of dropping the subject, carrying on or studying German.
What are you doing in cartoon land lad? Teaching English? Fleeing socialist tyranny?
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def a language, but it's pretty much dead after centries of english influence
Anything to escape Sturgeon assigning me mandatory Muslim cock that I have to pleasure
STILL CAN'T EXPLAIN HIMSELF
>My question is how many people in the UK speak more than english?
Probably something like 10% of people could hold a conversation in a language other than English, and I can almost guarantee that they will be immigrant languages like Urdu and Polish, and not native languages like Irish, Welsh and Cornish as it's not been until fairly recently that they've been taught in schools.
You will find that older people might speak languages native to the British Isles other than English as a first language, but even then most of them will be completely fluent in English. I had a lecturer who came from a rural part of Wales and speaks Welsh as a first language. It wasn't until he started going to school that he started to speak English.
>What are you taught in school as a secondary language? French?
You would be able to find a French lesson going on in pretty much any secondary school across the country. German and Spanish are also popular.
Urdu, Polish, Mandarin, Persian, and Arabic are also options. Few schools offer these as courses, but their popularity is increasing. Quite often they're taken by children who speak those languages at home because it's super easy to get top grades on them. Most employers across the country are impressed if you have a good grade in a language, even if it's from a qualification you earn at 14.
That's Ulster-Scots not Scots. Ulster-Scots is a watered down version of Scots that remained after the English started to move to the province.
Show me some scots then
Why do you think foreign countries are so much better at teaching English than we are at teaching French/German/Spanish?
See
That's not Scots and I already explained it in my first post. I was hoping you'd read it yourself to confirm I wasn't talking to a genuine retard.
>scots is a west Germanic language of the English variety that's spoken in the lowlands and northern isles of scotland and in the stewardship of ulster in Ireland
>where it's known as ulster scots
If i can read this effortlessly without ever having seen it before
It's not a real language
>Welsh
>Fancy
Welsh is pretty fancy.
What's the Welsh equivalent of Éireann go brách? Cymru ____?
The general attitude here is that our language is superior to all and others must learn English, so why should we bother to learn their language?
Shan't be talking to the Irishman making fun of my Scottish friends.
Simply because they start teaching it at an earlier age and put a lot of focus on it.
I know Luxembourg is quite small, Luxembourgish is similar to German, and Luxembourg is smack bang is in the middle of Germany and France, but we'll use them as an example.
Someone can feel free to correct me if I make a mistake.
As far as I know, in Primary School, from day 1 to the last day, it's taught in German but if a student asks a question in Luxembourgish, the teacher will answer in Luxembourgish.
In Secondary School, every class up until the equivalent of 6th form is taught in German besides Maths and Science which are taught in French. If you have a brain between your ears, you have the option to do the entirety of what is the equivalent to 6th form in French. If you do something like Economics or Politics, you are taught in French whether you like it or not.
You then end up with Luxembourgers being quad-lingual (English, German, French, and Luxembourgish) and some being able to speak Dutch on top of that.
A friend of mine who worked in Luxembourg for a few months said that everyone spoke to him in English, even if he spoke to them in German or French, and he's pretty fucking good at both of them. Apparently it's a Luxembourger thing to start speaking to someone in their native language, even if they start speaking to them in a language of Luxembourg.
I also believe that because English speaking nations pump out so much media, it's easier for someone to practice their English at home in other countries. There are people here from all over Europe that said that video games that were only in English helped them to some degree
>Loyalist Scots
>human
Gaelic Scots are our true celtic allies
>Cornish, Scots, Scots Gaelic or Ulster Scots
Those are all meme languages.
>celtic allies
I have all the allies I need right here.
So is Irish and Welsh tbf. But I like the idea of encouraging them to make the regions feel more distinct and unique.
>So is Irish and Welsh tbf
no
t. Huw O'Roberts
Irish was just as dead until the nationalists brought it back and even then it's only spoken in the Gaeltacht
Don't pretend you're not a meme too
yes
The language itself is unique and legitimate
See above