I was non ironically thinking that there are ~4 mln of irish in Ireland, and 4-5 in USA. The true number of your population just had shocked me.
What the fuck. you are a 70+ mln nation, how fuck you had stayed so closer to lost your language? You should save it.
I also never heard it in songs. I heard a really rare languages, like Chechen, or Abhazian, or Vepsian (the national language of Putin), or Welsh, but never heard Irish.
Country was anglicised during the hundreds of years of occupation and Irish language strongholds were destroyed during the famine by people either dying or fleeing off to the states
>Vepsian (the national language of Putin) Wut? Really?
David Harris
It's non official. He said that he is russian. But, he doesn't look slavic. And people have the theory that he is finno-ugric. Also, after he had becomed the president - Vepsian becomed to be offical in Karelian's Republic (Republics in Russia are a small countries inside Russia)
Well I knew that Russia is diverse but thats something new. The songs sound nice 2bh. >tfw there are only 6000 Speakers of Veps left
Lincoln Lee
>there are ~4 mln of irish in Ireland, and 4-5 in USA. The true number of your population just had shocked me. >What the fuck. you are a 70+ mln nation, Wot
Jaxson Lewis
Irish people Muintir na hÉireann Total population (c. 70–80 million worldwide[1])
I really was shocked too
Joseph Rogers
A good 95% of them are "muh heritage" fags who are like 1/16th Irish
Levi Taylor
>t. Nigel Smith Farthington
Colton Brooks
As for me, if your father is Irish - you are Irish
Sebastian Anderson
It's hard to explain to any other country, but basically after the brits starved 50% of the population to death during the famine the survivors thought it would be a good idea to learn english so that they could emigrate to America during the 19th century.
You can call us cucks or whatever, but fuck you if you can call up a simiar history
I don't want to call your cucks, but I can't understand, why irish diaspora in Canada can't change their language to French (it's a question of 1-2 generations) and forced anglos to leave in the future from Canada?
Really hate anglocanada
Wyatt Jenkins
they are cucks, dont worry calling it what it is
Jaxon Jones
I thought it was more that irish speakers tended to die out in greater numbers in the famine because they tended to be more isolated and poorer than average.
rather than a bunch of people learning english to go to america and then changing their minds (but still speaking english at home)
Nathaniel Martin
The both songs sounds pretty traditional, I'm not against it, but I think you have to create a pop- rock- songs in your language too
Matthew Ortiz
the first animation song sounds really cute
*sound
Benjamin Gomez
Irish speakers did die dispropotionately, many of them were also displaced to America. Irish was denigrated by the powers that be (the British institutions and the Catholic church who preferred English-speakers for missionary work). They had enough sway to turn many Irish against their own language, Catholicism became more central to many people's identity instead.
Landon Jones
Because in the new world you can pick your favorite ethnicity and register yourself as such in the census.
For example in Argentina you only need one SHITalian ancestor somewhere hidden in your family tree +120 years ago and boom, you're automatically ''Shitalian-Argentinian'', No matter if you're 98% black African negroe fromt he depths of Africa, if a terrone fucked your great-great-great-great grandma 300 years ago then you're 'euro-Argentine' Most times you don't need any proof even, the guys that do the census home by home every 10 years just take your word.
That happens all over latin and North America and that's why numbers are so inflated and unrealistic.
Samuel Adams
Many of them did just become French Canadians and today still tout their Irish heritage despite not even being able to speak simple english.
Its easy for slavs to talk about preserving "their slightly seperate version of russian through centuries of commuinst oppresion" when they were not cornered on a small island and not systimatically genocided every generation for 300 years but rather subjected to an incredibly overstretched bureaucracy.
I know they love to wank themselves off about it but come on
Levi Fisher
Russian is the most non-slav language in comparing with the others, but it's another theme
But seirously, how fuck you can stay anglo when anglos are your enemies (I also understand you, I really hate anglocanada, UK, Germany - three countries which shouldn't exist in the modern form). You have to use your diaspora to learn language
Nathan Cooper
t. Paddy McGee the fightin Irishman
Michael Cruz
If irish people and poles will change their language in Canada to French - it would be pretty easy to make this country 100% french again
Aiden Jackson
wanted to learn irish as a third language but i'm convinced it's just a meme like latin at this point
Ethan Reed
which language is the second
Christian Gonzalez
>If irish people and poles will change their language in Canada to French - it would be pretty easy to make this country 100% french again you are saying some really really dumb shit
for no reason too why do you give a shit
Austin Sanchez
Irish colleges do organise covers of pop songs but I don't know if there'd be much in the way of original modern music in Irish. Irish music sells on its traditionalism and perceived quaintness, there isn't going to be much of an audience for pop-rock songs in general. There's no doubt they exist though, somewhere.
Mason Parker
t. Mickey McLaughlin the lovable drunkard
Carson Wood
japanese
Xavier Baker
Covers are a pretty good way to make language popular. Also, hip-hop.
Caleb Carter
Well basically they learned it in the 19th century to emigrate to america to stop from starving to death, then it just became easy.
Like I said its not like any other countries experience in modern history and you have to go back to the middle ages for parallels, LATIN *HINT* COUGH* etc
Does that make us cucks? Come and get sum you slavshit fuck
Brody Wilson
t. Aiden O'Donahue the wife beating scamp
Jaxon Foster
Russia 5,936 (2010)[1] Ukraine 281 (2001)[2] Estonia 54 (2011)[3] Belarus 8 (2009)[4]
Belarus: 8
lmao
Jose Brooks
Why are you so aggressive friend, Sup Forums is for serious discussion
Christopher Brooks
You also can make a pro-irish hip-hop in English.
For example this track from a tatar nationalist is in Russian, but it's pretty anti-Russian by the sence.
It wasn't just the Brits, American cultural influence was a big factor. A lot of Irish Americans moved back after independence except most of them never lived in Ireland, they were the children or grandchildren of Irish that had been living in America who never learned Irish and didn't feel the need to when they returned. The government probably didn't want to waste money dubbing films into Irish when less than half the country understood it, same with TV.
I still feel the government and the schools were responsible for not teaching it properly when Finland successfully revived their language around the same time and Israel did it even later. Hell, fucking Neo-Babylon managed to revive their own language and that was over 2500 years ago in a much bigger country.
Gavin Lee
honest question, if someone was to be fluent in spoken gaelic and went to ireland on holiday, would it do anything to improve the experience?
David Cook
t.Hans "Hernandez de Rossi McClean Johansson 1/452452th Navajo" Washington
KYS
Lincoln Sullivan
I had a seriously bad day today and need to fuck shit up, even virtually
Chase Perry
I'd say it's swimming against the tide. Most Irish people are simply content to be anglicised because it is easier, they sooner identify with anglo-american culture than native gaelic culture because it is what they have the most experience with.
Caleb Howard
They would understand what all the placenames actually mean and would be perceived more positively (despite nobody understanding them), but otherwise probably not.
Jaxon Stewart
>4-5 mln in USA lmao no there are roughly 30-40 million irish americans
Josiah Phillips
The irony here is that you are probably 1/4 Irish and think you have a massive connection to Ireland
I have a passport to my family's european country of origin and speak the language fluently.
I literally hate 'irish' americans
Adam Wilson
>they sooner identify with anglo-american culture >mfw my sister has a psuedo-American accent despite living here her entire life >mfw she says we "owe" niggers despite doing nothing but let them live here England hurt Ireland, America killed it.
Brody Flores
I would agree to that to a point, my grandfathers irish so if my heritage or family is asked about from my friends I would say my family is Irish. But I would call myself English seeing as I have always been here and it is all I have known.
Zachary Murphy
There's some pubs where people go to speak gaelic, going there is pretty much the only advantage I can see, and even then you'd be treated with suspicion for being foreign.
Colton Garcia
Give her a slap. There's nothing worse than people trying to inject American racial politics into our society.
Colton Harris
t. James McMuheritage, the One True Scotsman
Carson Parker
that's funny because I mix up irish and russian all the time
Andrew Brown
Get fucked they're a brilliant example of why colonisation works
>People on the mainland would make fun of them because they spoke Irish
F
Ian Ross
kek, irish "language" its dead, deal with it
pic related, ireland itself only has 3.5 million people in it
Adrian Howard
kek, the irish were treated like niggers in the northern states, irish people had to use colored water fountains, "irish need not apply" signs in wanted adds, and pic related
Jeremiah Phillips
>ireland itself only has 3.5 million people in it Actually the republic has over 4.595 million and the whole island is over 6.4 million.