Anyone know of any fugues where the theme starts with a descending chromatic scale? I heard it like a year ago in a french church and I've been trying to find it ever since.
I don't get it does classical just mean that the music is primarily violins? How closed minded
Jose Watson
nah sometimes it's pianos too
Noah Fisher
classical means music written by trained composers, stored primarily on a written score, from which performances can be given, usually by professional musicians in a concert hall setting.
Any instrument can be used, from electric guitar and drumkit, to ondes martenot and synthesizer. Whatever a composer can dream up they can capture on a score.
Dominic Stewart
>How closed minded Are you talking about yourself, maybe? Art music has a wider range of instrumentation and greater variety of arrangement than any other music. And that's not even counting the range of the music itself. Furthermore, "classical" has a far greater definition and history than your dumb assumption. Pleb, please just get out. Go back to listening to Foo Fighters, or whatever you like. You know so little that you probably aren't even a Sup Forums user.
Cooper Murphy
Nah, if you don't listen to rap music solely then you're extremely close-minded and probably racist.
Charles Robinson
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Jackson Martinez
I'm only here because of the Superstuf but now that I'm here Imight as well ask a question. Did pic related really deserve the Pulitzer? I was terribly unimpressed when I heard it over the weekend. The whole time I was listening I was thinking, "DUDE DAVID ATTENBOROUGH."
Evan Robinson
Why is Schumann so much better than Chopin?
Luke Parker
It's a sign. This thread is now about Schoenberg. Why aren't you listening to Schoenberg?
Daniel Roberts
Because Choppin is shit
Brayden Myers
>Why is x so much better than Chopin?
Because they aren't Chopin. Lizst is Chopin for middlebrows.
Hudson Bell
Is there any award in music that actually holds merit?
(no)
Owen Williams
stop posting roastie whores in classical threads 2016 desu
Elijah Watson
what do you think should have won instead?
Oliver Watson
kys desu
Carson Miller
Pig disgusting. kys
Michael Ward
>Gaillard Pig disgusting. kys
Isaiah Roberts
This. Everyone knows that Sol Gabetta is the patrician cello waifu
Ian Perry
But I am listening to Schoenberg.
A Schoenberg arrangement, at least.
Kayden Wilson
Because I'm listening to Webern.
Tyler Morales
chin
Wyatt Martinez
can classical have improvisations
Jaxon Cook
Of course? You know the cadenza parts in concerti? A lot of people improvise during those moments.
Liam Rogers
>a lot
ehhhhh
Brody Barnes
aleatoric stuff. some composers include improvisatory parts
Isaiah Sanders
Baroque bass is improvised
Cooper Rivera
is there a flowchart for beginners?
Henry Lee
Yeah it's
Wnat to listen to classical? ----> Listen to MOzart
Carson Ward
Does a complete telemann edition exist?
Jordan James
No one wants a complete Telemann edition.
Benjamin Bennett
What a retard. Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven were all famous for improvising. Seriously, why post here if you don't know this?
Nicholas Hall
is there a non-autistic flowchart a beginner may use?
Adam Cooper
No because flowcharts are retarded.
Levi Williams
Read Rosen -> Listen to Mozart
Leo Jenkins
Yeah, what said. Bach in particular was well know for being an amazing improviser. When studying chruch music at uni, the final test even includes free improv/improv over a theme.
Gavin Thompson
What does Superstud Shawn listen to?
Justin Thompson
Bach could improvise three and four part fugues. Mozart could noodle a bit. They're not in the same league.
Brandon Collins
are those mega folders updated with new content from time to time?
Cameron Scott
>are those mega folders updated with new content from time to time?
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah
Matthew White
...
Lucas Foster
a Blast from the Bog
Christopher Jenkins
>please spoonfeed me
fuck off
Kevin Carter
I want one, you lame tit
Noah Flores
Sorry, no one *important* wants a complete Telemann edition.
Juan Torres
>tfw we'll probably see a complete Telemann edition >tfw we'll probably get 3 separate recordings of Vivaldi's entire works >tfw we will never even hear one of the middle operas of Monteverdi
Leo Perez
>They're not in the same league
Mozart was a prodigy and famous for improvising when he was still a child. The best adult musicians at the time would challenge him to improvising contests, when he was younger than 10 years old, and after 30 minutes all of them had walked out unsuccessfully. Mozart's ability to create melodies seamlessly was unmatched, and he had already visited large audiences in Paris and London before he was a teen. Don't try and tell me they aren't in the same league when Mozart is possibly the greatest of all time.
Lincoln Morris
Still not as good as Petzold. I already have one, silly billy.
Daniel Bell
Where do I find the complete Telemann edition?
Cameron Jackson
>yfw some of Telemann's lesser known violin sonatas are not recorded
Easton Nguyen
Well I mean, let's be real: it's prolly 'cus they ain't that good.
Blake Clark
STOP BULLYING HIM
Nathan Carter
This is a very long shot, I know, but it would mean a lot to me if anyone could help: I saw Peer Gynt in the theatre and during the dance at the beginning they were singing a song. I checked and it isn't from Grieg's nor Saeverud's accompaniment. It sounded to me like an old nordic folk, and the language did as well. There was a clear drum beat, like two quarters and a half note (in 4/4), repeated throughout. Does anyone have any clue what it might have been or is it more likely that they just picked some random folk dance or something?
Noah Martin
What's the best piece thuis Garya Potterov lookin' autist has written Sup Forums?
Ethan Harris
Bump.
Jeremiah Cruz
> The best adult musicians at the time would challenge him to improvising contests, when he was younger than 10 years old, and after 30 minutes all of them had walked out unsuccessfully
kek? apocryphal at best, complete bullshit at worst
>Mozart is possibly the greatest of all time
lol! get a trip so I can filter you
Nolan Myers
Symphony 15, obviously
Jaxson King
Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
Eli Edwards
Mozart: most underrated composer of all time Bach: literally plagiarizes minuets from random nobodies
Gavin Garcia
Arnold Schoenberg = Swag
Igor Stravinsky = Class
Thomas Young
Mozart was voted the most overrated composer of all time in a reader poll conducted by Gramophone in 2014. But keep pushing this prosecution meme because it fits your alt-right, pro-Mozart agenda. Literally one of the most famous composers in history is underrated? By who? Get a grip.
Jace Parker
Mozart underraters confirmed for CTR shills.
Charles Flores
I've never met anyone in real life that liked Mozart. I think mayyybeeee one person, and he was like 70 years old. Bach is loved by people good taste from all ages.
Michael Richardson
FURTHER proof.
Please just stop being a pleb, and listen Mozart's God tier music. Once you listen to his Woodwind/Horn/Piano concertos, you might stop being a loser Bach autist. Once you're done with that, try the string quartets and piano sonatas. Then proceed to the symphonies and operas.
Asher Walker
Please just stop being a pleb, and listen Bach's God tier music. Once you listen to his cantatas, you might stop being a loser Mozart autist. Once you're done with that, try the French suites and harpsichord concertos. Then proceed to the passions and motets.
Jack Watson
Worth checking out the string quintets too
Wyatt Bailey
shut the fuck up
Caleb Perry
Worth checking out the dubs
Noah Morales
Worth checking out the lute suites too
Xavier Thompson
Bach has plenty more than that that's worth checking out.
Joshua Richardson
>Mozart >most underrated composer of all time >not Raff Disappointed, my friends.
Justin Murphy
Everything is worth checking out.
William Anderson
bitchboy
Levi Jenkins
Wow this guy has like 11 symphonies. It's impossible to compose that many.
Logan Lee
(not true, by the way)
Jaxon Lee
Sonatas and Partitas for violin English Suites Brandenburg Concertos The Well-Tempered Clavier Cello Suites Partitas for keyboard Orchestral Suites Goldberg Variations The Musical Offering The Art of Fugue Mass in B minor
Jace Martinez
what are you talking about? Haydn has like 100.
Nolan Young
Of course, but this isn't a comprehensive dick-measuring contest (Mozart would come up a bit short anyway), just a sampler for anti-Bachian autists.
Grayson Sullivan
>muh quantity
Easton Collins
That's definitely a myth.
Levi Anderson
Another one!
Jose Bennett
Reminder that Haydn wrote better symphonies and string quartets and choral music than Mozart, in addition to writing a greater quantity of them.
Isaac Gray
Beethoven wrote better of both than either, even though fewer.
Jack Lopez
Beethoven was a romantic composer, fuck off.
Oliver Martinez
>Mozart would come up a bit short anyway FPTMIU
>Symphonies No.
>String quartets Definitely no.
>Choral music No.
And Mozart did way better everything else too. The only thing Haydn did that can match Mozart is probably piano trios.
Eli Perez
It is tempting to think of Beethoven's substitute dominants as having something in common with the harmonic structures of the Romantic period, but his harmonic freedom is of a different order and nature. When the Romantic composer is not following an academic theory of form-that is, when he is not writing what he felt should be called a 'sonata' -his secondary tonalities are not dominants at all, but subdominants: they represent a diminishing tension and a less complex state of feeling, and not the greater tension and imperative need for resolution implied by all of Beethoven's secondary tonalities.
No comparable subdominant relationship can be found in any work of Beethoven. His expansion of the large-scale harmonic range took place within the limits of the classical language, and never infringed on the tonic-dominant polarity or the classical movement towards a greater tension away from the tonic.
Jonathan Brooks
(You)
Brandon Thomas
Yeah, I saw when you copypasted that dogshit a few threads ago, and guess what, Beethoven is still a romatic composer.
Isaiah Morris
Even in choral music Beethoven is the best >choral symphony (genre he invented) >choral sections of Fidelio >Missa solemnis
Nolan Fisher
Why are you replying to me? I already know that Beethoven was a monster, the Mozart posters are the ones in denial.
Brayden Murphy
What do you think about pic related Sup Forums?
Lincoln Sanchez
Not Mozart. Don't care.
Easton Perez
literally the greatest russian composer of all time fuck shosta fuck schnittke fuck gasdahusdansdausiolinda
