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Mozart Edition.

Why is he so good?

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pseud-kun was mad last thread lmaooooo

>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
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>General Folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes recordings of music by Bach, Mozart and others
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>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
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>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
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>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century
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>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix
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>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
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>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
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>Debussy. There is an accompanying chart, available on request.
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>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
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>hundreds of years after the death of Mozart and plebs still can't wrap their heads around his music
Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
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Name famous composers/artists/critics/intellectuals who dislike(ed) Mozart's music. I'm up for a good laugh 2bh.

Gould and uh, Gould.

do any other baroque composers ever come close to writing anything as good as Harmonia Artificioso?

do you think people wouldn't be so contrarian about him if this further proof meme wasn't a thing

like it's this sort of reverse contrarianism because the meme started because people think his music is boring which caused contrarian opinion in the form of a meme and vocal backlash against the contrarian opinion

literally any Bach piece

Leave it to a Mozart poster to fuck up the OP.

Essential reading: thinkclassical.blogspot.com/2015/02/why-i-hate-mozartand-so-should-you.html

Can mentioning Mozart be a bannable offense?

Love his music but the shit-posting is getting ridiculous.

>recordings of Bach's choral music that isn't Suzuki or Harnoncourt
Reminder that Mozart haters are complete plebeians.
The further proof meme was something CLT did to make plebs leave. The whole point of it was to either get people into Mozart or to get rid of the people who didn't.
He stole the opinion from Schickele anyways.

yeah those major scale arpeggios are really blowing my mind

I can't even comprehend
woah

bog and shitart are both shit

mozart sucks

Richter has the best non-HIP version of Johannes-Passion. You'd know that if you weren't underage.

p.s. Harnoncourt is garbage.

Reminder:
>Mozart was perhaps the most ambitious composer in the history of music. He produced at least one, and generally several imposing masterpieces in almost every genre of music— concerto, song, opera (serious and comic, German and Italian), string trio, string quartet, string quintet, quintet for piano and winds, trio and quartet for piano and strings, quintet for wind instrument and strings, divertimento for wind octet, double concerto for violin and viola, symphony,piano sonata, violin sonata. Although he left no completed major work of religious music, his two fragments—the C Minor Mass and the requiem— are monumental even in their unfinished state.in comparison, Haydn’s major successes were largely restricted to the two genres of symphony and string quartet; only when he was much older than Mozart ever became did he create his most impressive piano sonatas, piano trios, and the important vocal works with the late masses and the two oratorios. And only after Mozart’s Prague symphony had surpassed in size and weight any of Haydn’s orchestral works, setting an example, did he expand his symphonic style.
>Mozart enlarged the forms of his time by combining genres. The finale of his Piano Sonata in B-flat, K. 333, is a large concerto movement, with imitations ofthe contrast of orchestra and soloist, and a huge cadenza like an improvisation. He introduced operatic effects in his chamber music, and symphonic and concerto passages into his opera arias. His concertos have moments of intimate and complex chamber music. The finale of the Jupiter symphony has an unprecedented display of learned counterpoint, simultaneously combining six themes. He magnified almost every genre in which he worked.

>non-HIP
That's your first problem.

I see you bog goblin.

Reminder:
>Mozart did little to nothing to develop music. There is practically nothing new or of interest that could be ascribed to him. Bach, on the other hand, married the contrapuntal-imitative tradition with the newly emerging diatonic-homophonic style, and even composed in every imaginable key—a complete novelty at the time. Both Haydn and Beethoven came up with substantial innovations and developments in both form and style.

>Mozart did little to nothing to develop music. There is practically nothing new or of interest that could be ascribed to him
(not true, by the way.)

the denial runs deep, but if you're smart you'll make it out

Yeah, but what does it sound like.

Good music.

I meant similiar pieces

what works by bach are similar?

frilly bullshit

it literally sounds like faggots frolicking in a meadow

t. Ives

GET THE F**K OUT OF MY THREAD!!!

autism speaks

post more Bach

should i just join on the shitposting

It is well documented that Mozart had incestuous urges.

Yes, pretend to hate Mozart like a plebeian piece of shit would. It'll be epic!

It's been like two years since CLT has posted here and you bottom feeders still parrot his useless memes. I guess it's part of the "culture" of this general and if you don't participate you might get called out for being new.

No.
Go to bed.

Bach is best mechanics

>pretend

wtf i love incest now

>It's been like two years since CLT has posted here
>he thinks CLT is gone
>he thinks CLT didn't take his Mozart is underrated opinion from Peter Schickele

And this proves that underrating Mozart and the "further proof" meme were started as a joke. Everyone knows Mozart is overvalued.

Here is a list of all the composers that are better than Mozart:

>Everyone knows Mozart is overvalued
Mozart is placed properly as one of the best if anything.
It was half a joke half "keep out the plebs".

Mozart is too chintzy. There is no other more simple way to describe what is very simple music. It is adolescent, immature. It is technically interesting but lacks grandeur. Had he lived longer then maybe his music would have matured, but I'd not give away Beethoven's First Symphony for Mozart's entire cannon.

>very simple music
>technically interesting
Which is it?

Mozart is the Lady Gaga of classical music.

>Beethoven's First Symphony
*Mozart's 42nd

hey guys mozart sucks

i dont know why i just want to fit in

both
simple =/= not interesting

Don't we all?

Speaking of Gould,


>Of Gould [Pogorelich] comments: "The tragedy of Glenn Gould is that was one of the brightest and most talented people born in this century. He could have become a unique value in art, but he never did. He was born to perform. The gap between his natural gifts and his low-level education led him to the crucial mistakes that eventually killed him. He was totally side tracked." As I understand him, he is saying that Gould lacked both a good, formal academic education which would have opened his mind and imagination to other cultures and ideas; and he lacked higher musical education with a truly outstanding teacher who would have been in a position to force him to play and think about Chopin, Beethoven and Mozart more seriously. Instead, Gould formed an early dislike of these composers, wrote witty put-downs of them, and was never forced by a serious musician to re-examine his thoughts... In The Romantic Generation, Charles Rosen describes Chopin as the greatest master of counterpoint since Bach and Mozart. He warmed up fora concert by playing preludes and fugues from WTC. Why did Gould reject Mozart and Chopin given his love of Bach and Schoenberg? Why did he gravitate to the romantics who were not masters of counterpoint? There is something illogical about his dislike of Chopin. Perhaps it is because Chopin meant Rubenstein in his youth, or Horowitz, neither of whom he liked. But one senses that Gould might have been intellectually insecure and once having made a judgment was reluctant to change it. And he so arranged things that he would never have to be challenged in these judgments. He liked to challenge others, but did not himself like to be challenged. We should be content with what he did with Bach alone; why should he have been a master of Chopin as well? Still, the dislike is strange.

**Haydn's 105th

How can it be simple and interesting in a technical way.
Not that Mozart is simple in the first place, just look at the Rosen quote earlier in the thread,

MOZART SUCKS

>Why did Gould reject Mozart and Chopin given his love of Bach and Schoenberg?

Because he had taste.

>Gould
>taste
lmao.
Pogorelich isn't one to be throwing stones though.

*Because he had shit taste

Sorry lads.

MOZART IS BAD BACH IS RAD

He sounds autistic

Disliking Chopin and Mozart and liking Bach and Schoenberg is definitely indicative of a refined taste. You're either a Mozart person or a Bach person. Bach listeners change the world in profound ways, challenge our beliefs, and uphold the virtues that make our societies beautiful. Mozart listeners.... well, someone has to pick up the trash.

nice bait

wow u sure changed my opinion buddy

ill never listen to mzart again

A stodgy autismal over-conservative music professor and fugue-fetishist was teaching a class on Johann Sebastian Bach, known lardass.

”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship the Baroque era and accept that it was the most productive period in the history of Western art music, even more than Viennese Classicism!”

At this moment a brave, impeccably dressed, inebriated contemporary composer who had just snorted a line of coke off a teenage classmate's back and understood the folly of a(r/u)tistic movements such as serialism and fully supported the preservation and continuation of the true old masters' legacies stood and held up a composition notebook.

”Professor, do you recognize this piece?”

The arrogant professor smirked quite Lutheranly as he leafed through the notebook. "Why, there's nothing in here but blank manuscript paper, you stupid pedophile. Is it 4'33"?"

"No. It's an opera. If J.S. Bach, as you say, is categorically the greatest composer of all time... then he should have written one, and it should be in this book."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and 80-disc Glenn Gould boxed set. He stormed out of the room crying those Bach fanboy crocodile tears. The same tears all autismal fanboys cry when someone else's favorite composer is different from theirs. There is no doubt at all that our professor, an anonymous craven coward who balked at accepting responsibility for his Sup Forums posts by using a tripcode on Sup Forums, wished he had taken the time to appreciate music beneath its surface aesthetics and understand the incalculable grace and poise of the great Classical masterpieces and deep intellectual current which runs beneath their simple veneer. In the final moments before his suicide, he wished so much for a requiem mass to be sung at his funeral, but alas! The lazy Bach had neglected to write any of those, either!

Reminder that Bach was a moron who spent most of his free time reading pop theology.

MOZART IS SHIT BACH IS LIT

Gould liked Bach and disliked Mozart. He's maybe the most famous concert pianist in history. He introduced some of Bach's finest music to tens of millions. No one outside of the autists that buy his poorly researched books acknowledge Rosen the way they acknowledge Gould. You do the math.

People who like Mozart:
Einstein
Beecham
Haydn

People who like Bach:
Gould
Autists
Poly-style
>poorly researched
lmao

oooh put me for both!

People who liked Bach:
Mozart


checkmate

well mozart ate doo doo lol

I like both Bach and Mozart. Will I get in trouble?

MODS

>tfw your own variant of this pasta is so esoteric nobody gets the references and in-jokes

...

kys

FREEZE

YOU'RE UNDER ARREST

>Mozart autists waste time making shitty copypastas that only they themselves laugh at while Bachian intellectuals are out changing the world and having penetrative vaginal sex with natural born females

You can't make this stuff up.

ya real changing the world stuff like getting mad at people on the internet for liking some 250 year old dead dude lmaooooooooooooooooo

>Bach
>intellectuals
>having sex
kek

>bogbillies stay up until midnight arguing in favour of their lord and saviour instead of doing productive things
you cant le make this up

btw i'm arresting you and you're waifu

someone please give me a (You) ill call whatever composer you want shit

NOT SO FAST

YOU'RE UNDER ARREST FOR HAVING BAD TASTE

NOT IF I ARREST YOU FIRST

Webern

Bach

webern is shit

YOUR BOTH ARRESTED

bach is shit

ur all under a rest

I'd take any single Bach fugue over an entire opera by Memezart.

Even this one?
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Don't think you're off the hook either.

Outlawing Mozart's music would raise the average IQ of every nation on Earth by roughly 7 points.

>Chopin

fuck outta here
almost as bad as mozart

ur under arrest

Lady Gaga is pretty great anyway
youtube.com/watch?v=X-tkWrjdRKU

but it clearly says bach right here

>Mozart fans and Lady Gaga fans are the same people

that explains everything tb h

>harpsichord

I don't care about most of her commercial material but she's the most talented performer in popular music today

>she's the most talented performer in popular music today
?

If you don't listen to Baroque music on harpsichord you should self-terminate immediately. I mean that completely unironically. You're literally listening to the music incorrectly.

>Taylor Swift
>ever
>at any time
>at any place
Wow I thought Bachfriends had GOOD taste