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Finland
It's okay if it's the rapebaby of a nigger or a shitskin, or a rapebaby in general

Should be legal if the child would suffer or the woman would die.
The father should have to agree to an abortion, just because the child is in the body of a woman, doesn't mean it's her possession but lately I feel like women think of children that way.

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Goyims should not procreate, so i'm okay with this.

Poland
pro-choice

Not murder

Banning abortions is retarded.

thousands of women died during the communist era, doing abortions at home with fucking straws and balloons.

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Ireland

>opinion on abortion
should be mandatory

this guy gets it

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Should be legal but discouraged.

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Murder. Also, degenerate af.

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>virgin neets who will never conceive a child give their opinion on abortion

If abortion is murder then jacking off in a sock is genocide.

pro-life

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against unless it's medically warranted

sadly also this

Why would anyone need sexual experience to form an opinion on an ethical problem?

>Straws and balloons
H-how does that work?

not the same

when sperm ferilises the egg it is commited to making life. prematurely ending this process is preventing a life from existing, therefore murder

After 4 months should be banned if doing it on a whim, before that you can do it on a whim

If the baby is retarded/autism/downs or mother in danger or whatever, then anytime is allowed

USA
It is literal murder, but because most aborted babies in the US are niggers, I am pro-choice.

Life already exists. Sperm cells and egg cells are alive. Sperm cells can't commit to anything as they're not conscious, they're just doing a chemical reaction process. You can see how some would think calling this murder would be arbitrary right?

Hans that is terrible logic.

>x or y can happen
>y can only happen if the man agrees
>but x can happen if the man does not agree

You will just go to a stalemate where x will always happen making it unfair.

Women are the gatekeeper and higher chance of the man running off, protip if you want a kid don't stick your dick in someone who does not want one, you putting your dick in them is taking a chance on a child being born and leaves it up to some random woman you may not know well if she wants it or not.

Best you can do as a man is make her acknowledge you won't support the child if you don't want a kid with some drunk slut you fucked by mistake, but again not taking care of a kid you help make is up to you if it's morally right or not.

Is life is that magic to you guessing you don't eat meat?

Even babies are hardly human they act on animal instinct.

You put the fluid in the balloon.
You put the straw in the balloon
You put the other side of the straw in the pussy
You inject the fluid in the pussy.

You get infections, pain, vomit.....etc You die.
You do the abortion to late.
You bleed and shit your baby in the toilet
You die.


The truth is simple, something many pro-life people don't understand. Women WILL do abortions. No matter what.

My grandmother in the 50's and 60's had over 30 abortions.

My Aunt almost died having a home made abortion with her fucking herdrasser. She flushed the kid down the toilet.

The communists almost arrested her, but they had no proof she did the abortion.

People who want children don't abort babies.
People who absolutely don't want babies will abort/abandon them regardless of legislation.

Therefore it should be legal until the point where the baby could survive _without_ constant emergency medical attention. After that point, it get's ethically complicated, but as experience shows legislation didn't stop Chinese dumpsters being filled with girl babies.

Make it illegal after 3 months or so. Women shouldn't be able to get more than 3 abortions either, after the second one then they should get sent to a mental hospital.

it's ok, it's better to use condoms or pills

What the fucking shit?
That's why I hate Slavs
I'm Russian myself, and most are worse than Niggers

Jesus christ.
A couple weeks ago a 14-year old girl in my country was arrested for birthing a child and putting it in a trashbag and putting it outside so it froze to death.

Also a good argument for decriminalizing drugs.

Dude, that's how Slavs think
They always go the easiest way
Why use condoms or other forms of contraception?
Simply get a free late term abortion

It's crazy

I was born in North Russia
There's nothing worse than communism

Should only be legal for special cases.
For example if there is a danger for the woman or the child will be born disabled.

Should not be legal as a way of birth control like it is used most of the time.

A woman should have the right to choose whether or not they'll have an abortion
Prohibition always backfires and banning it will just make desperate women have dangerous procedures

On a personal level, it makes me very uncomfortable and I think to some degree it is ending a human life but from a utilitarian standpoint I support it as a lesser evil
I think the ideal world is one where zero abortions (that aren't from rape or life-threatening situations) happen, not because we've banned it totally but because people have proper sex education and access to effective and affordable birth control and family planning
There would be low need for abortions in this case and less unwanted children as well (which would not be the case if abortion was banned), so those are the things I support

I am also very opposed to abortions post-viability but from what I know these are extremely rare and banned in most situations

So I am pro-choice

I don't think doctors can determine that until very late in the pregnancy, when it would be illegal and ethically complicated.

hope she doesn't get long

So why are there so many abortions in Eastern countries?
It's very legal and free

>free
An abortion here costs almost the entire minimum wage.

Doctors can do a lot nowadays.
You will never have things 100% sure tho.

It still not an excuse to use it as a birth control.

It's probably homicide with indirect intention but she's off with 8-months of juvie and psychological help.

Very much for it.
Kids raised by women who don't want/aren't ready for kids are bad news. They're more likely to be criminals or suck up tax payer money in some way. Then there's all the secondary effects like lower property value causing less tax revenue. If that kid has kids it could turn into a multi-generational source of non-contributors.

That's wrong
People here can abort the child even if it "just" has Down Syndrome
And I'm fine with that

What's not fine is abortion as contraception
Honestly we should lock people like that up

should be illegal except for rape or danger to mothers life

your mother is a whore and should kill herself
This is why everyone hates romanians

I don't think so, lots of people would abort retarded babies

Get out Chink, come again when Japanese people start to have sex again

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Romanians are a fucked up race mix with the worst of Slavs and Indians

t. dude that gave up on all human values to be a full cuck slave for the economy

>grandmother

People on this board unironically hate blacks

>Defend a literal blob, that's not yet a human.

In Denmark we can abort in the first 8 weeks, I think. Which is fine, considering it's nothing like a human being.

>considering it's nothing like a human being
You've been in this state too and now you are chitposting here.

Really makes your braincells wander.

The growth of a baby is not instant. That logic implies that wiping your semen after you're done, is murder.

There's literally no non-arbitrary determination of whether a foetus constitutes as a human being or a blob.

Semen alone does not make a human.
You imply a logic that simply isn't there.

This is what a human develops from. Therefore it is a state of a human.

Sperm cells are a state of human. Stardust is a state of human. Carbon is a state of human.

As long as it doesn't have a brain, it's not a human.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beginning_of_human_personhood#Brain_function_.28brain_birth.29

idgaf. My houses are too nice to not be concerned with shit like that.

Is a human with brain damage only partially human then?

Ejaculate on your table and wait until a human grows from it.
You can try similiar experiments with Stardust and Carbon.

>As long as it doesn't have a brain, it's not a human.
It will have a brain soon enough. This is not an argument.

You do know that conception and fertilization takes up to 2 weeks right? It's not like a magic switch that's suddenly on.

>The truth is simple, something many pro-life people don't understand. Women WILL do abortions. No matter what.

They will, but that doesn't mean we should reward them for it.

And do you know that most abortions do not happen in the first 3 to 4 weeks?

No and yes. It's a human being because it exists because of the brain, but it's not capable of abstract thinking, which is what makes us human. Our way of thinking is literally why we went from apes to humans, it's the very definition of humanity.

This logic is stupid. It's not rewarding, it's preventing casualties.

1000 clean abortions is better than 1000 abortions with 500 dead mothers.

My Body, my choice.

It should be legal.

Wrong

this thread is going swimmingly

So is an advanced voice box and proper thumbs. Are you saying mutes aren't fully human?

"Can take up to"

This is propably true. Abortion goes way beyond this time tho.

There ios something called a after pill. This can be used lets say dierectly after you had insecure sex.

>500 dead would be single mother welfare leeching shitskins
Yes please.

Legal but not encouraged

awesome comeback, bro

What?

He just eats up a "scientific" argument of pro choice peopüle without even asking sense and nonsense in question. He isn't a full human himself since he has no developed consiousness.

Toddler don't have any abstract thinking either
So can I kill toddlers now?

Has a soul=human
Whats so hard for you to understand?

If it can swim it is alive. Letting it get deleted is murder

>get raped
>find out you're pregnant
>abortion illegal so you keep it
>kid reminds you of that trauma
>struggle to make ends meet
>life wrecked by rapist

it's bizarre to value a random embryo's life over an already existing one

I mean this is an extreme example but it should be an option always (there should be a time limit of course)

You're saying abstract thinking makes us distinct from other animals and therefore it makes us human. But so does a voicebox that allows us to communicate.

If you're the type to get an abortion, you're probably not the kind who should be passing on your genes anyway.

Abortion is morally wrong

Not everyone shares my morals, so I'm not going to force them on others.

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You don't get to have an opinion, amerilard.

>1000 fast murders with guns are better than 500 slaughters with knives

Sure
>oh I got raped
>don't give a fuck about possible pregnancy for several weeks
>go get a late term abortion

FOY

They do. Abstract thinking is not grasping the concept of math or a phonetic alphabet. It's the ability to learn and develop and not just follow your instincts.

Yes.. but I fail to follow your voicebox analogy.

should be illegal, but acceptable in certain situations like . Basically, I'm fine with my country's legislation about it

Does that count for not being able to get laid as well? I hope not for your case.

*rubs hand on face* There are a couple of situations where abortion is justified. These are:

*The mother is under 16 or over 38
*Incest
*The baby would have congenital defects
*The mother would not survive pregnancy/childbirth

And that about covers it. It is not justified for a perfectly healthy 20 year old slut to get a convenience abortion because she fucked 20 niggers in da club.

Rapes are rare in the West and pregnancies due to rape are even more uncommon.
And Third World countries were rape might be common don't even have abortion laws.

I don't understand what's so difficult. According to your logic, a mute person is not fully human because he lacks one of the distinctive human features.

Also, abstract thinking is the ability to think about things that don't factually exist. Like the future, or monsters or whatever.

this

Not an argument

>Rape is rare in the west
Citation needed.

If a poor favela monkey wants an abortion shouldn't they get one because they can't afford a child

A toddler is able to develop?
Animals learn too, that's basic biology

Nobdody likes spawncampers.

This is also true. Rapes don't typically result in pregnancy because women have a difficult time achieving orgasm in a stressful situation (the primary point of the female orgasm is to draw sperm into the uterus).

The majority of the cases are just simple birth control reasons (99-99,9%)

Your extreme can be treatend with after pills too.

>American flag references black dick

like clockwork

Your soul argument isn't an argument either, duh.

Haha what the hell. Since when is female orgasm required for pregnancy?

That is some real reddit formatting there

While visiting the US in the 1820s, de Tocqueville noted that American women were held in higher standing overall than their European counterparts. He commented that rape carried the death penalty here while in France it was only a misdemeanor offense.

It's always funny to see Americans debating personal freedom. They all want to have it, but they do not allow others to have it.

Ohh a mute person.
If he can communicate in other ways, sign language/writing etc., he's still a human.

Animals follow their instincts and MAYBE learn from encounters, depends on the animals. A toddler is 10x as smart as almost any animals, barring dolphins, chimpanzees and other monkeys.