Cheating

Cheating.
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Is it ok as long as he/she doesent know,
Have you cheated?

You will get caught. Always.

out of sight, out of mind

it is not ok to cheat. it is a verbal contract.

unfortunately, in much of the west society, including companies, think its ok to do something bad if you are sure you won't get caught.

that said, i have cheated.

>hypocrite

bullshit I've cheated twice. Once with a prostitute for sex, and the other one was an actual romantic affair. Never got caught.
>i still love my gf too

A friend of mine is cheating on his wife.
He says, as long as she doesent know, she wont get hurt and then it is ok.
Never caught

I had a girlfriend who cheated on me and I in return cheated on her for a good while with a co-worker. Was amazing. no regrets. just wish my girlfriend woulda been more open and not a lying cunt. totally chill fucking people while she fuckin people. but lying is so basic.

Been cheated on, am monk now. It seems kind of like a way to kick someone while they're down. Not only are you not good enough but not even worthy of being dismissed properly.

serial cheater here. always cheating with a few girls.

It's possible to do it safely, it just takes a lot of work. there is always a small chance of being found out but you can make that chance so fucking crazy small that you could do it for centuries without a problem.

But doesent it feel bad, or is it cuz u r getting tired of having sex with your gf/bf?

do you have any complex and feel like you need to prove yourself? I am simply asking for out of curiosity

are you a girl or a guy? Why do people have this mentality?

Thats sad. but true.

Surprisingly didn't feel bad though I would have if she had found out and got really hurt. That's the risk you're taking.

Oh yes absolutely. There is only one real reason people cheat and that's a lack of self-worth. I suffer from that big time and if a girl wants to fuck me that's a huge ego boost to an otherwise depressed lonely guy.
>welcome to Sup Forums

don't know if this counts as cheating, but i sure felt like it at the time.

i caught my gf web whoring for money. i thought she would be the last person in the world to do that kind of thing. she is shy and beta as fuck, plus has a government job.

on the one hand it was kind of a turn on, on the other i felt betrayed. dumped her even though she quit.

Makes me wish I grew up with less traditional/Christian values. At least had a more "open relationship" view on love so I wouldn't've been burnt so easily. Like setting me up for the fall, you know?

for me it only felt bad after sex. before sex, i couldn't think of anything bad. after sex, i couldn't think of anything good.

cheating is stupid. Just dump them.

Sleeping with someone in a relationship is okay though.

isnt it cheating on your partner if you are sleeping with someone else.
Why would it be more ok? Anyway it would hurt the partner right

Thank you for a honest answer.

anyone else get bored of fucking the same girl over and over (no matter how hot) ? i cant fucking help it and it makes it hard to be in a relationship and not want to cheat

y u no ask for a threesome then?

give us some protips

I don't care if she fucks around so long as she plays safe and comes home afterwards. I'm not monogamous so there's no reason I should expect her to be.

I was a notorious cheater until I once became the cheated. Funny thing is she was the only girl I was ever loyal to. That said humans are not monogamous by nature. Even the "happiest" people are prone to stray once in awhile. But if it's too consistent then you at least owe it to the person you're cheating on to end the relationship whether or not the truth is ever unveiled to them.

I didn't necessarily mean "get caught" and in walked in on. But she WILL find out.

my gf would neeever accept a 3some but im tired of fucking her. like eating a jar of nutella is amazing but being forced to eat a jar of nutella every day every month every year makes u sick can anyone relate to this

You might still get caught

I am married to a sexy hot wife.
Nevertheless, I find it quite nice to visit a hooker in a nice environment and call her names and fuck her. Its not expensive and nice.

So what. I am still a loving husband and father.

What I should have said is sleeping with someone else who is in a relationship. As in while you are single

Having an open relationship is one thing and cheating is something else.

I would cheat on my gf but not on my wife

I'm a dude and too young to act like a grown man
when you're not married and don't have kids you should enjoy life to the fullest
if you don't you'll regret it

not really cause I'm not getting much sex anymore...that is the other extreme that can happen. but fuck it, more jerking of to porn then

Cheating is not indicative of how much you love the person you're with. TBH sometimes straying here and there can save marriages so long as the person cheating manages to keep it a secret.

Agreed. She;s gonna find out sooner or later. No one takes secrets to the grave.

Wow you always hear this kind of b/s today.
>take drugs or you'll regret it
>fuck loads of people or you'll regret it

Actually you're way more likely to regret doing those things, I don't see why living life to 'the fullest' always involves bein degenerate. Noone ever says:
'live your life to the fullest' don't drink too much alcohol
'live your life to the fullest' save for a comfortable future

Am I missing something? Not edgy enough?

Does this count as cheating?

>Be me.
>Best friend with this girl I've known since elementary.
>Also friend with a guy name John.
>All three of us are close and grew up together as friends.
>Practically inseparable.
>Ended up going to the same University together.
>Despite being together never thought of my best friend romantically.
>Always felt like she was a sister to me.
>Chill together at my apartment one night.
>John is drinking a little to much and ends up persuading my best friend to take off her clothes.
>She does it.
> One thing led to another and we're all naked.
>Ended up having a threesome.
>Me and John double teaming her while she just takes it.
>Finish and all pass out.
>Wake up to realize what just happened.
>Weird as fuck but we laugh it off.
>Even though we're friends, all three of us agree to form a mutual friend with benefits type of pack.
>See nothing wrong with this idea.
>All of us are single and have sexual needs.
>Continue our friendship normally with the occasional sleeping together every now and then.
>Winter comes.
>John has to leave and go work in another city for the semester.
>I assume the threesome is over and that the sex was going to stop.
>Best friend calls me and asks me to come over to hang out with her.
>Go over expecting to watch a movie or something.
>She's naked and wants to have sex.
>Wondering why since John is gone.
>She says why not? We can just continue with the both of us.
>I can't argue with that.
>Continue the FWB thing with her.
>With John gone, I start to hang out with her a lot more.
>Not just sex but also doing regular stuff.
>Start to develop feelings for her.
>Tell her how I feel and she's okay with it.
>She tells me she use to had a crush on me.
>Take her on multiple dates.
>We're a couple now.
>John is back. We haven't told him yet that we are dating.
>He messages us asking when we can hang together.
>He's been looking forward to our usual threesome.

I feel like I cheated behind my friends back...

the main thing is maintain complete separation. Don't fuck her best friend or her sister or somebody who knows both of you, that's guaranteed to fail (I've tried). Fuck a girl you've met through some completely different method who doesn't know you already.

If they're also in a relationship, tell her you have a partner. she cant take the moral high ground.

If she's single, it depends on the girl. The main thing is keep as much detail from teh side girls as possible. They should not be able to turn up at your house, or your favourite restaurant where they know you'll be, or call up your family members. Women can be fucking nuts sometimes.

Maintain separate profiles for things. Separate phone for side girls, separate kik/snapchat/whatever accounts, maybe even separate facebook. no contamination between the gf phone and the side-girl phone. If you can stash the phone somewhere outside of home do, if you take it home keep it off and hidden somewhere safe.

Anything you particularly want to know? It's probably been about 14 years since I started.

agree with that...living life to the fullest seems to mean fucking your shit up today

i second this. i tried twice. was caught twice.

story 1:
>had gf
>met girl at bar. let her suck my dick w/o a condom
>had sex with gf
>gf says she caught HPV from me. she didnt have hpv prior

story 2:
>used to fuck gf twice a week
>began sleeping with another girl
>out of the blue gf says "are you cheating on me? you stopped asking for sex"
>OhShitSheKnows.jpg no baby of course not!
>i go to sleep one night
>wake up to find out she went through my phone and read texts
>GameOver

too conservative for me
it's 2016, norms have changed

it depends and yes.

serial cheating is obviously wrong, but mistakes happen, and forgiveness is a part of loving someone. especially if they cheat on you during a time of extended separation.

I think it has to do with a reaction to moral nihilism or subjectivism/relativism. People go YOLO. Other people forge their own integrity through other ideologies. It's a crazy world, son. Don't let it get to you.

But if you indeed love your gf, then you wouldnt do such thing that could hurt her, such as cheating.
So y cheating a good thing?

see something else
experience something different

that's hard, but why can't you just have the threesome again? what's the big deal? Or do you feel like it should just be the two of you and your male friend shouldn't rejoin? If you edged your friend out of that relationship, that makes you a shitty friend, and a stupid one, because the relationship with that girl will always be tainted by the other guy's absence. Just fuck her together and be done with it.

If he's mad about it, offer to suck his dick or let him fuck you or something.

Well then you all agreed to an open realationship.. or not? if you all were single and messing around.

That he leaves is his problem, but how would you know she wouldnt fuck him behind your back now tho

You didnt exactly make it hard for those girls to figure it out

I loved my girlfriend and another girl at the same time. It was torture because I felt like I was hurting my gf but also making the other girl happy so I tried to keep them both happy while things were that way.

Most people do. If you're not a shitty partner, you'll work through it. If you are a shitty partner, you shouldn't be in a relationship.

I am a loving husband and father.
Both sometimes I visit some nice brothel here in Germany, its cheap (30$), and I still love my family. So what?

Senario. you cheat on your gf, then you are saying that she has to forgive you, cuz thats a part of loving?
Then it should be a part of loving your gf to not cheat right?

thanks bro
pretty much what i figured, keep shit separate and don't be an idiot

Some people become legitimately unhappy feeling locked to to intimacy with the same person for the rest of their lives. They might care for the person greatly but need that extra sexual excitement. I personally believe that people rarely cheat out of spite or to hurt the one they love, but rather do it for personal gratification. Hell I'd even say that women are guilty of this more so than men these days.

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you Germans really have it good

basically yeah, that covers most things.

Things are going to go bad with the side girl one day, you have to just make sure none of it can come back to you.

Does cyber sexing random strangers on an aniime chat website count as cheating?

kind of.
you are seeking something u know but isnt as bad i would say... but still is it ok? as long as you can keep it secret?

Life lesson: If they cheat with you they'll cheat on you. Never seen a relationship that started that way and didn't implode from either one being unfaithful or arguments from general mistrust.

See its like reading an erotic fiction novel could be classed as cheating, you are having an erotic connection with someone else...but if we establish

porn =/= cheating
erotic novel =/= cheating
cyber sex?
phone sex = cheating
webcam sex = cheaitng
rl sex = cheating

That is probably the most accepted way of cheating. Because the whores are usually so far below you that you only go to them if you just want to have sex and nothing else its also a lot easier for the woman to deal with it since the risk of him leaving her for a whore is basically nonexistant.

like. My gf is ok with me watching porn. cuz i dont really interact with another female sexually. Over porn you dont develop real felings either for another person so that wouldnt be as bad as example sexting and such

If your girlfriend has a male best friend that isn't obviously gay, then you are being cheated on or will be at some point. Seriously never let your guard down with that one.

cyber sex is more involving than phone sex so...
cyber sex = cheating

I never go in to relationships for the long term so that eventuality doesn't really concern me. I'd be more bothered if she didn't use protection than I would be by the fact she'd fucked someone else.

>my gf is okay with me watching porn
was there ever a question about that? You´d have to be a giant controlfreak to not be okay with it.

>it is ok as long as he/she doesnt know about it
lol what

dude you know its not ok, kek why did you even ask

You should communicate about whatever it is that's making you want to stray well before you actually do and if you absolutely can't help it, you should break up with them first no matter how hard it seems.

I don't judge people who do cheat though.

No, it should be in you to forgive her if she cheats on you one or two times.

it was to the statement that is porn is cheating, as well as sexting and so on.
Then you should be considering that porn is not feeling based, like you dont interract with a real person like you would if real life or over phone with a real person.

You really think that some potential guy behind an anime picture saying he *sucks ur dick* is more involving than masturbating down the phone with a person, moaning and talking to each other?

Cheating is a dick move. Rationalise it all you want, but by nature it's not just the physical side that is the problem. To cheat is to break someone's trust in you; it's not cheating if they're cool with it, and that's a dick move.

Does that mean that cheating is unforgivable? No. Just like anything else, you can't remove context and IMO cheating is just a sign that the relationship has issues that are not being addressed. The cheating might be the (shitty) outcome of that, but the real problem is whatever made you look outside the relationship for intimacy.

you should, the only behavior you SHOULD judge people for it bad character.

Lieing, cheating, stealing, narrow minded ness, prejudice, ya da ya da

Maybe it's just me who have cyber sex only with girls I know

Alot of my friends and friends fathers is like talking about this as it is ok to do as long as she doesent know about it, like it is a normal thing, and im like, is it really? never cheated before, im just curious

I disagree that the relationship is always to blame. My gf is very loving and gave me plenty of sex but I still cheated on her. The reason? I lost my virginity to her and have pathological issues that it is not her responsibility to account for. She's not a psychiatrist.

distance is a legitimate reason to cheat in my opinion

if you cheat on someone you're in a relationship, it seems likely they will cheat on you at some point

Why would i forgive her and keep loving her.
If she would cheat on me, then thats not of love she have done that, if she loved me for real then she would never do that.. right?

Been cheated on, depressed lonely faggot for years now. Don't be like me, user.

Once a cheater- Always a cheater.

True story. Know that feel

eh. distance is a legitimate reason to be adults and discuss open relationships if you cant handle the distance, but it's not a great reason to do it behind somebody's back.

I cheat, but I can't justify what I do. it's a bad thing.

Then the issue was yours; you weren't ready for a committed relationship. Rather than talking that through with her, you cheated. I'm not judging; like I said context is everything and I dunno your situation other than what you've said, but I'd say that counts as problems in the relationship.

Then the problem is distance. The solution is talking it through and changing the 'terms' of the relationship rather than cheating.

Figured.

Yeah, I tried Tinder, but I don't get many matches. None even want to meet up. Other than that, I don't leave my room.

I saw cheating as a solution to the relationship, not a problem. Once I cheated a couple of times I am then capable of carrying on on equal terms. Not every time is telling someone the whole truth the right thing to do. That would have involved filling her with guilt and confusion, possibly losing the great relationship I have now.

Not true at all. Cheating is all about the context; anyone could cheat in the right circumstance, and they might never cheat again if the circumstances are different.

whatever you say. I'm of the opinion that neither love nor sexual attraction (especially not attraction) are exclusive dynamics, and it's ridiculous for many people to keep fucking the same person for the rest of their life.

Mate, Tinder sucks..
After being cheated a couple of times I started to develop friendships and gain befefits from it ;)

But this situation is not yet resolved. If she doesn't know, then it's going to be detrimental to the relationship. Keeping illicit secrets like that is going to cause both of you more upset than being honest; you're only human and you'd be surprised how understanding people can be. Maybe give her the benefit of the doubt in future.

My way of seeing cheating is, if I didn't cheat on that guys girl, he would have done it to me if he had the opportunity.

That sounds like a sweet deal.

But I just work a job, and come home to cry on the internet. Every day, since 2013 user. I don't leave my room.

it's not easy to reach a consensus on open relationships
there are some things you need to keep to yourself because your partner is not as open minded as you are

true, thats because girls nowadays are boring as fuck, same shit, different looks

You guys, are you still tryiing or did you lose hope and give up? Considering humanity's great achievements I find it hard to believe you can't find someone if every day you get up and pursue it like a job.

-hit the dating websites every day (wisely)
-go to a club or community group, ask women out no matter how many rejections
-go to the gym, ask women out no matter how many rejections, also work out so you're fit
-post ads on craigslist
-speak politely but bluntly (i am looking for a relationship)
-lower your standards

I can't see how you can fail besides doubting yourself, or not being respectful to the women while being honest about what you want.

"Hey would you like to go for coffee"
Once at the coffee
"I really like you and would like to see you again" (say this even if not true)
Eventually one of them is going to be flattered by you.

that's so true

Sometimes you have to. If you tell that person can be fucked up because now they will have trust issues with other people in the future. I for one will take it to my grave.

Try it. Talk to some cofags in work, go on a beer, wine, movie, get to know each other -> fuck