"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." FAB = -FBA

"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." FAB = -FBA

People do not realize what Isaac Newton's third law of motion really means.

Everything is balanced. Everything physical (matter/energy) goes back and forth in balanced circles, cycles, or the equivalent. Birth-death, old-young, big-small, strong-weak, start-stop, up-down, rich-poor, beginning-end, fast-slow, hot-cold, pain-pleasure, win-lose, day-night, full-empty, high-low, in-out, success-failure, united-divided, give-receive, creation-destruction, on-off, positive-negative, etc.

Positive and negative forces moving in balance are the physical universe.

There are no exceptions to the laws of nature Newton revealed. They apply to all matter and energy. Human beings are matter and energy, thus you and all humans are governed by the same laws.

-From the Top entry of the Truth Contest called "The Present" Agree, Disagree?

He then goes on to say
"Luck: Good luck and bad luck are the balance in action and the way the balance most affects our lives. Luck is manifested on many levels. There is the day-to-day luck, from little things like getting a good parking space or a bad one, to big things, such as winning the lottery or finding out you have cancer. Then there is the long-term luck. You are lucky if you are born with good looks, money, health, talent and intelligence. You are unlucky if you are born unattractive, poor, sickly and without talent or intelligence. Most people are in between the extremes, but it does not matter, because we are immortal, and it will all balance out. Luck will move back and forth; everyone will get equal amounts of good and bad luck.

What goes around comes around. Everyone gets their turn.

Death is the great equalizer: If you are born with advantages, you can have more good times than bad times in your life, but when you die, you are reborn with disadvantages, and have more bad times than good times and vice versa. In the long run, no one has it better or worse than anyone else does, because life will always balance eventually. It is the known nature of the universe we live in."

If you flip a coin a thousand times, it will come up heads about half the time and tails about half the time. The odds of random events are predictable; this is why Las Vegas always makes a profit on gambling year after year. You can see the truth if you look at the big picture. You will see that random events are predictable because they balance. It's a fundamental truth of life everyone knows, but ignores.

This is why on the Fourth of July, about 162 people will be killed in auto accidents, and every fourth, about the same amount are killed. An average of twelve auto accidents happen every minute; about six-thousand teenagers are killed in auto accidents every year in the US. About four million people are bitten by dogs.

Why is the number about the same every year?

Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables or cosmic dust; we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance. Albert Einstein

Destiny: Not being in control does not mean our future is predestined. No one knows the future; the future cannot be known. Anything can happen. The only thing we can be certain of is that it will be balanced.

Interesting stuff!

>People do not realize what Isaac Newton's third law of motion really means.
Cool, it looks like you're one of them.

The good news is, all of the best things are going to happen to you; the bad news is, so will all of the worst things, if you do not learn the truth.

Consequences: People may think, if everything is balanced, then it does not matter what you do. That is true, if you want to continue living in the savage animal realm. If you want to evolve past the animal realm, to a realm where there is no fear, pain or death, you have to learn and spread the truth of life. You have to live as a spiritual being. If you live like an animal, you will continue to be one.

The greatest present: For the first time in history, the first time in our 700 million years on this planet, we can know life, know what we are, where we come from, and where we are going. We have to take advantage of this brief opportunity. It has been a long time coming and will be a long time gone. This book will give you the power to change our present course to one that leads to a place without pain, fear or suffering, a place some western religions call heaven.

Keep reading: New and different revelations about life are not easy to accept. Do not let the things you disagree with stop you from reading further. Many of the things you do not agree with or understand when you first read them will make sense after you read more of the book. Do not skip around; it needs to be read in order to make sense. It is a small book (101 pages) that does not take much time to read. It is worth it. Truthcontest*com

Cognitive dissonance: Get to know these two words. It is the unseen enemy of mankind. It does more to cause war, crime and suffering than anything else, because it prevents people from learning and changing. If you are ready to overcome your cognitive dissonance and learn the truth of life, keep reading.

The first three pages of this book are a game changer, because they are true. The problem is, most people cannot see the truth of life.

Seems like the same old dualism crap. Opposites and opposing forces are simple human absolutes imposed on arbitrary and 'fuzzy' concepts. There is no real order in the universe except for a handful of rules which given the behaviour of matter and energy as time progresses.

Reincarnation is a fairy tale told to keep children from breaking down at the realization of their own mortality.

The universe doesn't care about balance or order. If all of humanity died out in one great catastrophe the verse would not 'shuffle the deck' and give us another chance. Planets would orbit, stars would shine and the arrow of time would continue flying inexorably to the future.

>You are unlucky if you are born unattractive, poor, sickly and without talent or intelligence
what do you mean?

I feel like this guy is a neckbeard

The planets moving in orbits shows the nature of the balance. The balance is must clear on the edges of physical reality, if you look at the biggest things, stars orbiting planets, you will see they are all going in balanced circles. If you look at the smallest things you will see the same thing. Electrons going around a nucleus to form atoms. The edges reveal clearly the nature of our universe.

What do you mean what do I mean? It is plain, you see a person born with horrible deformity or disease you think that person is unlucky.

When you see the truth for the first time, it is what people call a peak moment, or a moment of clarity. You get a larger percentage of what each moment of life actually contains; you are filled with life. Your mind is the gatekeeper of life, and sometimes it lets a little true life in, but most of the time it does not.
Mind Block True Life Present

Figure 1 shows how mankind currently perceives life. Figure 2 shows true life.

The arrows represent life coming to you from all directions. The dotted line shows how your mind blocks most of the life coming to you. Without the mind blocking life, you receive all of life, true life, and reflect it all back out.

you dont get to say who is unattractive so your premise is flawed

The arrows represent life coming to you from all directions. The dotted line shows how your mind blocks most of the life coming to you. Without the mind blocking life, you receive all of life, true life, and reflect it all back out.

Seeing Niagara Falls or the Grand Canyon for the first time is a peak moment for most people. Why does it make you feel so alive? Nothing really happens to you. Why doesn’t it feel as good the second time you see it? You are seeing the same thing. The reason is, your mind opens up when something is special.

The truth is, every moment of life is special, and you can be completely open to life most of the time. You have to see the truth to see true life.

No, he's one of those new-age retards.

That is true I have nothing to do it though, its all about how people feel about themselves. If people are self obsessed they will be the opposite later. The elephant man for example could be tom cruise now because his attention and how he judged himself, how his life was lived. The balance is almost infinitely complicated.

no i mean an elephant women would perceive him attractive

But the arrow of time pierces all your nice symmetries and imagined order.

True, orbits make nice circles if you plot them for a week or a year. But in a thousand years tidal forces will decay most orbits noticeably. In a hundred million years all but the most stable orbits will have collapsed. And over the course of a trillion years? Not even perfect diamonds revolving in a perfect vacuum will still be orbiting neatly. Even electron orbits will decay in the depths of time.

The defining rule of the universe is the 2nd law of thermodynamics: "In any cyclic process the entropy will always increase". The scale may seem balanced but it always tips slowly towards chaos and disorder. Every second burns away a little of the potential of the universe. Even if the universe cared enough to try and keep things equal. The strain would simply kill it slightly faster.

The truth of life does not change anything in life except people's minds. Things stay the same. The truth just removes the unnecessary suffering, conflict and confusion from life.

The truth about life is actually very simple; it is just hard to see for the first time.

Life: It all boils down to how you feel from moment to moment, how often you feel good and how often you feel bad, and it will be balanced like everything else physical. Your infinite past was balanced, and your infinite future will be too, unless you change from a physical being into a spiritual being. To change into a spiritual being, you just have to know the truth, which changes your point of view and your perspective of life so that you start to live your life as a spiritual being.

Our life does not have to be just fifty-fifty like the physical world, because our spiritual-self, our immortal-self, is not physical and does not need to be balanced to exist. Our physical environment cannot fundamentally change, but we can. You just have to know it to do it.

still better than fuckin roll treads

also checkem

Infinity, some things are beyond the mind, thus beyond understanding. The mind has to realize it has limitations. All infinite and never-ending things are beyond the mind, and the essence of everything is infinite and never-ending. Example: we cannot comprehend that the universe goes out forever, but we can understand that it has to. It is impossible for the universe to stop going out. Something has to keep going out, even if it is just empty space. This tells us infinity exists. We can understand infinity exists without understanding infinity. Outer space is the easiest place to see infinity, but it is actually the nature of everything in one way or another.

The amazing thing is, it has to be true. It is a certain truth, and it is impossible to comprehend. That is mind blowing, but it's one of those things that brings magic to knowing the truth and life. It is a perfect example of knowing the unknowable.

Inner space: There is no end to inner space either. The truth is, there has to be an infinite number of universes inside every atom in our body. If you take a piece of cheese and cut it in half, and cut the half in half and keep going, you could cut forever, and you will never run out of something to cut.

You cannot make nothing out of something; it is impossible. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, and all matter is a form of energy. If you could make nothing out of something, you would be destroying energy, which is not possible. This is how you can use deductive logic to know something that could not be known any other way.

When you burn something up in a fire, you are just turning it into heat, light, ash and smoke; nothing is lost. The electricity that runs your TV or computer is not lost. You can look at it as water flowing through the cord into the screen and spraying out into the room and back into the environment again. Nothing is lost; it is just changed into another form, moving in a circle or cycle.

Yes but if he has more bad times in life than good than the opposite will happen to balance it out. It is the known nature of the universe we live in. Rich successful celebs will be the equivalent later. And its not always black and white, for example some rich beautiful people lead miserable lives and some poor people are very happy. But it doesn't matter because it will always eventually balance out. The chemicals in the brain everything is moving in balanced circles and cycles.

Okay, I've read this ass's book already. In summary:
>infinite reincarnation
>you get things opposite your previous life when reincarnated. Your luck equalizes.
>that's why you have to live in the present.
>basically just mindfulness meditation all the fucking time
>if you get this knowledge you'll have it forever
>people will realize fantasy is shit and have heaven on earth blablabla
>some weird conspiracies about the Beatles and Jesus realizing the truth and preaching it but everyone misinterprets.

>we all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine.
>we all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine.

Nothing is going to make any real difference in your life except separating yourself from the balanced physical world. It can and will change everything.

The truth reveals that you do not need to experience the bad to have the good. The bad will still happen, but you will perceive it differently.

Good/bad: When you know the truth, you take the two sides of life, the good and bad side, and see them as one whole. You do this by understanding what the balancing force means. It means all bad times will pass and be compensated for by an equal amount of good times. It also means all good times will pass and be paid for with an equal amount of bad times. It will always balance.

When you know the truth, you will enjoy the good times more and still avoid a bad time when you can, but when you cannot, the knowledge of the balance helps you get through the bad times. This is because knowing that the worse it gets, the better it will be, makes bad times almost enjoyable. More importantly, it centers your perspective of life. You see both sides of life; whole life, true life.

You do not get just 50/50; you get 100%.

The knowledge of the balance takes away your reasons to be mad, sad, hate, worry, envy, be disappointed; it takes away all negative emotions and feelings.

Op here and Lmao, and thats the jist of it.

you are inconsistent. i was talking about appearance. you just want to make your theorem fit and you dont care about truth.

Entropy Mothafucka

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No, I am also talking about appearance but no one can hurt you or do anything to you its all about you and how you feel about yourself. People now let other people form them, for example a ugly person is always considered the bad guy in movies, the villain is always ugly because that is the reflection he gets from society. He lets people form him, people stare or look a little longer or are stand offish, ETC he picks up on that and forms his personality while as a rich white women gets the opposite effects and becomes a beautiful reflection of people but also that can lead to ego problems where as the ugly Sup Forums goer can lead a relateively peaceful happy life, sometimes but it doesn't matter because it balances out. The super hero is always good looking and it is because of what I described above. Minds beget minds.

Found that site recently and must say it shares a lot of valid info.. It's like I knew all that but didn't know the meaning behind it.

True our minds are not built for doing philosophical contemplations easily (I once heard "A person trying to grasp philosophy is the same as a dog trying to walk on two legs").

But just because infinities may exist in nature that doesn't mean that every atom is infinity divisible. That's a false equivalence. For all we know quarks are the fundamental 'ground floor' of reality and there's nothing beneath of below them, saying their full of 'infinite worlds' is just "turtles all the way down" with a fresh coat of paint.

You're missing the real problem of entropy though.

True, energy cannot be created or destroyed. But it will always change form, nothing can be preserved indefinably. And the majority of these transformations create heat. This waste heat is the real issue.

You can burn coal for high grade energy. But the coal got its energy from the sun when it was a tree. The sun gets its energy by fusing hydrogen. Eventually the sun will run out of hydrogen. Then there will be no more coal.

And most of the suns energy isn't being turned into coal and electricity. Most of it is radiated out into space. Remember how space is infinite? How far can electromagnetic energy travel in space. Forever. This is true "Waste Heat". Energy forever lost in the infinite void of space. One day all the stars in the sky will burn through their hydrogen. Almost all of the energy they created will be speeding away from us, at the speed of light.

In the depths of time. EVERYTHING IS LOST. And you think the universe cares if you're ugly?

Lol no I think people care if their ugly, atleast now they do read the reply I gave to other user above. The universe may expand out and collapse on itself infinitely like a heart beat, or expand out into another expanding universe. I don't pretend to know what happens but what we can be sure of is the infinite nature of life itself. Including energy.

We want to expand our life, not expand our minds as they did in the 1960s.

The more you live in the present, the more fulfilling life gets. Time will slow down; you will see the magic and wonder of life you saw as a child, and you will experience it without the ignorance and all the negative emotions of childhood. Soon, you will be able to see life better than a child sees it or any animal has ever seen it. You will see the real world, an enchanted world.

Your two selves: Most people are not aware of the fact that they have two different selves. You have a mind and a spirit (consciousness), and though they seem like one thing, they are separate. The way to realize that this is true is to realize that something has to be listening to the thoughts created by your mind.

What is it that hears your thoughts?

There is the part of you that thinks and the part that hears the thoughts. The thinking part is your mind; the part that hears the thoughts is your spiritual-self. You do not actually hear thoughts through your ears, because your mind is already inside your head. The point is, your spiritual-self receives the things the mind creates in a similar way to hearing them.

Check it out: Just ask yourself, what is it that is hearing the thoughts you are thinking right now?

It is your spiritual-self, the same thing that receives all life.

you are judging the attractiveness of a person from the perspective of the consensus of a group. so indeed on average he might be ugly. but the elephant women will consider him attractive so how can he be both ugly and attractive?

No your missing the point, he judges himself, if he feels bad most of the time it will balance, if he finds a women who finds him attractive he can live a happy life, its all about how he feels and what he is, how he sees life and it will always balance.

You have to know true life to know your true self.
Perspective and perception: The same world is perceived differently by a frog and a cat, a cat and a dog, a dog and a human, a child and an adult, a woman and a man. You see something different than I do. All perspectives are unique.

We do not see things the way they are; we see things the way we are.

People see and experience life through their own mind and senses and from their own unique perspective and awareness level. This does not change the truth. The physical world will never change; it cannot change and still exist, but the way you perceive it can. Perception and perspective determine how clearly and truly you see life and how fulfilling or unfulfilling life is for you. Knowing the ultimate truth makes it possible for people to see life clearly and to be filled by it.

You cannot control life, but you can change the way you see life.

Animals other than man are more fulfilled, because they have less mind blocking life, but they are stuck with the perspective and perception they are born with. We (human beings) can greatly improve our perception by learning the ultimate truth.

All the problems we have stem from people not knowing the truth of life.

Unhappy: People look around and think, why are there so many people that are unhappy? We have progressed so far, yet people are still unhappy. Why isn’t this world the wonderful place it could be? Changing the world doesn’t change us.

It does not matter how much we progress materially; it will not change anything. Only learning and seeing the truth will change us, and thus change everything.

The truth transforms a mortal man into an immortal spiritual being.
It does this because the truth just shows you what you truly are, and that changes everything. The truth does the same thing for the way we see the world and for the same reason. It shows you life clearly; it shows you true life for the first time.

True life is perfect: You can see and experience a perfect life, because that is the way life actually is. Our imperfect minds mess it up.

It is hard to believe from your current perspective and level of awareness, but it is your own mind that makes life imperfect. The universe has to be perfect to exist.

You do not have to believe it; you can know it.

The present: It is interesting that the “NOW" is called "the present.” The present is the ultimate gift; it is the gift of truth and life. You are given the present every second, and you will receive it forever. The present is the only thing that exists, the only thing you are ever conscious of. Your life is a series of presents moving through time. The future does not exist until it becomes the present.

Life is one perpetual present.

Creation is happening now: Your body, mind, and the world around it are being created from microsecond to microsecond. Things may look the same, but they are not; everything is constantly changing and being recreated. Our life and our world is being created from moment to moment.

Life and everything in it is always new.

People think that they are not good looking enough, young enough, thin enough, smart enough, rich enough, etc. They live on the edge of the circle and just go around and around forever, lost in the illusions of their minds.

Greener grass: The concept of past, future, and a distorted perception of the present keeps people running for the greener grass on the other side of the fence. They miss the present in the process.

Chasing the horizon: It is like running after the horizon; the faster you go, the faster it moves away from you. One day, you realize that you are standing on it. What you were running after is where you already are and always will be.

All people want is what is in the present, but they do not know it because they have never opened it. Almost no one knows what the present really is.

The present has to be our goal, because it is the only thing that exists.

The big tease: Your mind will open up part way from time to time to give you a taste of true life, and then take it away. It will attach the open moments to things that are hard to do, like things that cost a lot of money, things that are difficult or dangerous, or things that the mind considers to be new or special. Your mind makes you pay for life in one way or another, and never lets you have it for free.

A fulfilling life is always free and always available once you know the truth.

Fulfilled: It is the way we feel when our minds are completely open to life; we become “filled” with life. Being filled with life makes you feel the way you want to feel all the time. Fulfillment is true happiness. Doctors say that you feel good or happy because of the release of chemicals in your brain that make you feel good. This is true; chemicals such as endorphins, adrenaline, serotonin and dopamine make you feel good, but they do it by just allowing you to feel a little true life. Like all drugs, the effect is temporary, and it has a balancing downside. The ultimate truth is not temporary and has no down side. No drugs are necessary.

In this animal realm, physical pain and pleasure will come and go, but you can always be filled with life (fulfilled) once you know the truth.

Freedom: If you tie your fulfillment to things that happen in your environment, you are at the mercy of the constantly changing environment. You will only get a taste of fulfillment when things go your way, when you win or get what you want. Spiritual people are fulfilled when they lose. If you do not attach your fulfillment to what happens in your environment, you can be fulfilled no matter what happens. True freedom is having the ability to be fulfilled independent of what happens in the environment. Almost no one is free now. Only the truth will set you free.

Being free means being free of the mind that hides true life from people.

Life is an accident. In fact. If there are indeed many worlds "out there" then the fact this life exists in this one is just an application of the anthropic principal:

Infinite worlds exist - Some worlds contain life - We are alive to observe this universe - our universe must be favourable to life.

Looking at it that way it's no surprise that life arose in our universe. And life itself can be deemed little more than an accident of infinite scale.

There's nothing special about life that we know of. We're the same as rocks and stars. Our atoms have the same characteristics and follow the same rules. The only difference is that we've evolved to the point where we can delude ourselves into thinking that we're somehow special or significant in the scale of the universe.

Life and energy are not infinite. At least, not according to the best evidence we have. Life had a beginning and will probably have and end. We are no different from bubbles bursting out of a paper make volcano. A self replicating pattern of chemistry gently sustained by the embers of our galaxy.

Instant gratification: Why put requirements on feeling good? True life is being given to us all the time; we just have to let it in all the time. True life is instant and complete gratification that costs nothing. Being free is in your head.

The secret: Most people know you do not need “things” or things to happen to be happy (be fulfilled), but most people do not know how it works. The secret is opening your mind. Without thought and negative emotions, the same thing happens that happens when you get what you think you want.

You become as sensual as you can possibly be; you become your senses.

You can feel better than you would feel if you just won the lottery everyday. Why not? It is just a state of mind, or state of no-mind. It is your life; just take what is coming to you. You can be fulfilled whenever you want. The present is for you.

Being fulfilled, being filled by life all the time, is the true goal of mankind.

Everything that people do, directly and indirectly, good and bad, is to be fulfilled by life. Once you know the truth, you can skip all the things and just be fulfilled.

Empty: As shown in the drawing, the mind makes it impossible to know reality (true life) and to be fulfilled. The present with the mind blocking and distorting it is not fulfilling. It leaves you empty and full of desire for something to fill the emptiness. The things the mind does to try to fill the void just block life more. The more people run towards what they think they want, the more they miss it.

Something missing: People feel that something is missing, because something is missing; true life is missing.

The door: Your mind is like a door, and for most, it is currently closed. You have to have a truly open mind to learn the truth and experience true life (the present).

Your right, we are not special in the eyes of existence, at all. Life is completely meaningless you bring the meaning to it. And yes we do have evidence that life and energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The big bang was the start of our universe but as I explained earlier in the post of infinity it may have a beginning and an end but the infinite universe does not, cannot. Also Newtons law, energy can neither be created nor destroyed is a scientific law and the best evidence we have.

That which is: The literal meaning of the word “truth” is “that which is.”
The living truth = that which is. That which is = the present.

The truth of the past = that which was. The truth of the future = that which will be. You can only truly know “that which is,” because now is the only thing that exists. The past is a memory or a story. The future is just an educated guess. You can only know the true past and what the true future will be by knowing “that which is possible.” If you know how life works, you will know everything.

Definition of ultimate truth: It is knowing the truth of life. It is knowing the fundamental, eternal laws of nature, and the nature of the mind which distorts and hides the truth. It is an accurate and complete understanding of “that which is.”

You do not and cannot understand every detail of life and do not have to. You just have to understand the big picture, the fundamental nature of life.
This truth never changes, because “that which is” can never change. It cannot change and exist. When you know life completely, you become life completely.

Self-evident: There is nothing easier to know than the truth, because it is life itself. It is nothing more and nothing less. The truth is the present, THE NOW.

It is all true: The truth is simply everything there is, everything that truly exists. If it does not exist, it is not the truth; if it does, it is. “That which is” is everything except for the deceptions created by the mind.

The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill

2 + 2 = 4: It does not equal anything else. The truth is, there is only one truth. Believing 2 + 2 = 5 or 6 or anything else does not make it true. There are an infinite amount of wrong answers, but only one true answer.

Hope/belief: Believing and hoping something is true or going to be true does not make it true, if you do not start with the real truth. It is the truth, or it is not. There is no way to make something that is not true, true. There is only one truth.

Faith in faith: In and of itself, belief, faith, hope, wishing, good luck charms, holy relics, symbols, positive thinking, good intentions, praying, curses, voodoo, magic spells, fortune tellers, psychics, etc. do not do anything except make people feel like they have some control over life. They are just coping strategies.

If you believe a fairytale or myth is true, you will not live happily ever after.

People that currently have faith and belief in a myth are a force against the truth.

Believing in things that do not exist is the worst thing you can do.

Religious people want to believe so badly, they will ignore scientific evidence, reason, common sense and their own better judgment. Religions have perverted the meaning of the word "truth". The Webster's Dictionary definition below says what the word means:

truth: being in accord with fact or reality

Many things religious people say they believe are not in accord with fact or reality. They are myths, superstition, hope, not truth. To say it is truth is a lie. True or false? In other words, most of the world's traditional religions are spreading lies and many know it, which in addition to being liars makes them dishonest hypocrites. The ones that do not know they are lying think they are doing the will of their god, when in truth, they are doing the will of the enemy of their god, Satan, who is defined in their holy books as the great deceiver, the king of all lies.

The real truth unites people; it does not divide them. It makes sense, and it applies to everyone, everywhere, all of the time. It creates clarity, not confusion. The truth leads to real equality, freedom, peace, love and understanding. The real truth only asks you to believe in something you can check for yourself.

Anyone who cares about the truth enough to check what it is will know the truth. Those who do not care enough will not learn the truth and will be lost and deserve to be lost.

Monkey see, monkey do: Most people just tell people what they have been told the truth is. They just accept what others say the truth is, especially if it is what people have been accepting as the truth for thousands of years. It is monkey see, monkey do.

Second-hand truth should not be believed or repeated without checking it out for yourself. The age of playing follow the leader is ending now.

Second-hand truth is called hearsay in a court of law, and it is not admissible for an important reason; it has proven not to be a dependable source of the truth.

What could be more irresponsible than saying something is true without knowing beyond a reasonable doubt that it is true? Billions of people are doing it.

Do not believe what anyone says, including me; check things for yourself. You have to see the truth yourself in life itself to know it.

You are at what could be the end of a very long and difficult quest. You now have the opportunity to complete the quest and leave the animal realm forever.

The only real difference between mankind and other animals is our ability to reason and think. Thus, reason has to be what we have to use to evolve further. We have to use what sets us apart from other animals.

The truth: You now know “the truth” part of the truth and life. There are only five fundamental things you need to know, and they are the following:

1. Our true history.
2. You are immortal.
3. Everything will balance.
4. You are a spiritual being.
5. The present is everything.

Ok I have given all the information I care to. If you are interested continue reading at the top entry of the truth contest called The Present. Good luck user may the force be with you.

can he see the life in any other way then from the perspective of himself?

Energy isn't destroyed so much as 'wasted' or 'lost' and this lost energy cannot be recovered through any practical means.

Life, on the other hand; can certainly be destroyed.

Yes if he learns the truth. Changes his perspective.

truth about what?

disgusting dumbass

Read what I have posted in this thread, or search Truth Contest and read the top entry called The Present,.

>negative forces
xd

This is the same shit people have been selling since before history.

Follow us and forever be saved from the spectre of death.

Not that people don't want to be told this, in fact, most people demand to be told that they will never die.

The problem is that shit is shit. People die and that's the end of it.

Heaven, nirvana, reincarnation. These are all just safety blankets to protect against an endless oblivion.


What really annoys me is that now is the first time in human history we might actually have a chance to avoid death but people still cling to their safety blankets. We know what causes ageing now. We know why diseases kill us. If we poured our collective resources into science and technology then the day where 'natural' death will no longer exist might come sooner. Admittedly not soon enough for any of us. But for our grandchildren perhaps.

The better part of human nature is not that which endures, but that which overcomes. Death may take most of us. But it will not take us all.

learn to condense the essence of what you want to tell us in as few sentences as possible. its quite arrogant of you to want me to (possibly) waste my time on sifting through your walls of text.

If you don't want to read it than don't

if you dont want the discussion going then let the thread 404

This new age shit is giving me cancer. You know nothing of the fundamental laws that govern our universe, or you are choosing to ignore them. Either way, it's fucking retarded. Eventually all matter will collect and condense into black holes which will eventually evaporate and cause the heat death of the universe. None of this balance, reincarnation bullshit. Thermodynamics shows this. fuck me.

>Eventually all matter will collect and condense into black holes which will eventually evaporate and cause the heat death of the universe
This bit about heat death is false. But yeah, OP is a retard and new age cancer needs to die.

Thermodynamics and Hawking radiation both predict the heat death of the universe.

wikipedia /wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe

I never denied that heat death will happen, you just have the details wrong.

>not all matter will collect into black holes
>the cause of heat death isn't the evaporation of black holes, but the dilution of matter and energy due to the expansion of space
>the last things to break down won't be black holes; but instead protons

What are you saying exactly?

how does one "separate themselves from the balanced physical world"?

But alas, you are trying to pin some ultimate universal meaning to everything simply from a human beings perspective and philosophies.
The true nature of everything will always be far beyond what we can comprehend or understand.

>eventually there will be so much space that every photon of light will be endlessly flying into an infinite void
>every single energy bearing particle will be completely alone as infinity stretches around it in every direction
>time will have essentially died since no new interactions could possibly even occur
>time will die

Kind of like the before the "beginning" of the universe?

Everything that has a beginning has an end but what if there exists behind the beginning and the end an eternal force that springs forth into existence all things both permanent and otherwise.

No. As there was no manifold to serve as an embedding 'before'. And it's really inappropriate to talk about a before, as time was undefined since the actual fabric of space time didn't exist.

Read up on cosmology/modern physics. Maybe particle astrophysics too.

Don't forget, the light itself will be red shifted into lower and lower wavelengths until some point becoming less energetic than the empty space around it and be lost forever.

EVEN THE LIGHT DIES

Nobody knows what it was like before the beginning of the universe you big dummy.

That doesn't make sense how can you make something out of nothing? Or in this case everything out of nothing.

If you read very carefully you'll notice I never said that.

I don't know enough physics to answer these types of questions. Honestly, nobody knows enough at this point; you'll just have to be content with waiting for an answer, or become a physicist and help find the answer.

We can't really make assumptions about the conditions which gave rise to the big bang since it requires information from outside our own universe. (that is of course assuming that 'information' even exists outside of our universe).

Well thats essentially what your implying isn't it. That there existed nothing then all the sudden, magically there came into existence everything. You sound more religious than op

Well wouldn't it have to genius, wouldn't information or something have to exist outside of our universe to give creation to our universe?

What if there's a teapot floating in space between Mars and Earth?

You dont learn about the universe by asking it 'what if'.

You learn by saying "This might be so, how can we prove it?"

Using that logic OP wins, he says there exists something beyond our universe and the way to prove it is to say there must exist something beyond our universe to give rise to the universe because you can't make something out of nothing which is essentially what OP says but backwards. by saying life can neither be created nor destroyed just changed forms. Infinity makes sense and is the only thing that can make sense.

>Well thats essentially what your implying isn't it
No. This is where things like M-theory (or alternatives) come into play.

>You sound more religious than op
No, all I did was state what current models suggest.

Tldr

can someone tell me what "the truth" is?

This is getting irritating to read

Op is promoting the Truthcontest look it up if your interested, i read it don't know what to think I like some parts others not sure of.

I don't know. That's the problem. Trying to look back before the big bang is like trying to read before the first page of a book.

In fact its like trying to read before the first page of a book, when you are a character in that book.

There are idea's about what might have caused the big bang, a false vacuum collapse, brannes colliding, god. But they're all essentially piss in the wind at this point.

All I can say with any certainty is that 100 years ago people had a far worse idea about the origins of the universe than people today.

Trying to plot the future based on past events is sketchy at best, but I believe that further research and discovery in fields like physics and astronomy might paint a far better picture 100 years from now.

But today, we don't know. Anyone who says they do is misinformed.

Matter and energy are the same thing.

Well isn't the only POSSIBLE explanation that something must have existed before the universe because it is IMPOSSIBLE to make something out of nothing. Bring some philosophy to something science can't answer.

But that's assuming that universes must be created from something.

INSIDE our universe its true that energy must be conserved. Its a universal truth.

But we're discussing possibilities BEYOND our universe.

I can't say with any certainty that OP is wrong. But I can say that there is no good evidence that he is right.

dude, singularity!

Existing is only important because we think it is. I mean how do we know there's a difference between nothing and the universe. How do we know the universe has to be created or even is something that exists in any meaningful sense beyond our own? Maybe this is nothingness and it's all an illusion.

"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing."

Shakespeare, I dig.