Classic paintings thread

Classic paintings thread

What about paintings inspired by classical works?

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Works for me

aight

These two pieces are by Nicola Samori

What are they based on?

Samori's subjects are typically from Baroque/Renaissance era paintings. Classically trained painter born in Italy. Pretty sure all of these are from the current decade. I think he's an absolutely amazing painter, so much depth in his work. He also methodically distorts most, if not all, of his work in different ways.

I'm really liking his style. I'm just getting into classical paintings and such, where would you suggest learning more about paintings, artists etc

Going to your local museum. Where do you live? If you're anywhere near Dallas, TX you should head over to the Kimbell Art Museum. They have a painting Michelangelo did when he was a teenager; it's the first work of art of his featured in an American museum.

Battle of Lepanto
1603
Oil on canvas
Palazzo Ducale, Venice

Best thread today

I wish I lived in a bigger city. I'm in Edmonton AB and there's little museums here, and most are modern based

One of my favorites, "The School of Athens" by Raphael. I really loved how he included Michelangelo as Heraclitus and Da Vinci as Plato in this piece.

The classic painting "Its too big"

I love this one, always been one of my favorites

Take an art appreciation course at your local community college. You'll cover all types of art, but it will also cover most of the Renaissance and the techniques that were developed/rediscovered in that time period.

And depending on what your community college has to offer, they may have more period specific classes that focuses primarily on classical works.

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How about a woodcut?

Thanks for the advice, I'll look into taking classic art courses as an elective since I'm already a full-time student

that's Neoclassical, actually

That's great! You have any more? And do you have info on this in particular?

I know haha, I know the general periods just said classical to generalize for those who may not know the difference

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Knight, Death and the Devil by Albrecht Dürer

This one is by the same artist its called Melancholia

titian's entombment of christ. Such a beautiful painting; it's on display at the Kimbell Art Museum and it looks so much better in person. It's a "guest of honor" though so no photography since it's not in the permanent collection. The frame they have it displayed in is also pretty ornate, and there's an inscription on the bottom with the title of the work and the date.

I don't have any knowledge of woodcuts. Why are they made so dark?

Damn would love to see this one in person. Just out of curiosity how does one determine the quality of a frame?

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also Grien.

Van Eyck's Arnolfini. His signature is on the painting as this work functioned as a legal document, proving their marriage.

Here's the mirror in the back. In its reflection you can see the husband, wife, and the artist.

Honestly that's really cool, I did not know that. How did they manage to accept a painting as a document?

They cut into wood, cover with ink, and stamp on paper

Oh damn that's really cool then

Because very few, if any, artists now and especially back then could paint from memory with that astonishing level of detail. They had to be standing there like that together for him to paint them like this. His signature also basically says he was a witness to their wedding.

Damn and that level of detail is amazing. I'm gonna read up more on this, thanks

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Here's another cool one, Merode Altarpiece depicting the Virgin Mary and Joseph. The people in the first panel are probably the ones that commissioned the painting. It was controversial when it was painted in the late 1420s because it makes it seem like the virgin Mary and Joseph lived under the same roof before they were married, but they're actually two separate scenes. I believe this style of painting was called panel painting if I'm not mistaken.

Are the two separate scenes the middle and right panel?

Another cool thing, God is in the middle panel. Back in ye olden days when one of art's primary functions was religious symbolism, you weren't allowed to paint images of God. The only way you were allowed to signify God was in the work of art was with rays of light, or a hand coming from the sky. Don't remember exactly if the rays of light had to be cast on a cross though.

Yes, all the panels are actually separate scenes. There's a lot of religious symbolism in this piece, like the rays of light and the scroll and book in front of Mary, giving the impression that they represent the old and new testament.

Here's a sculpture Michelangelo did of Mary holding Christ's body. Mary's hand is almost as large as Christ's back, and the lower portion of her body is much wider too. Christ's body has many adult features, but his face appears very young. I think Michelangelo did this to show it's more than Mary holding Christ; it's a mother holding her dead child.

Thanks for all the info. How'd you get to know so much about these paintings?

divine comedy?

My own investigating and taking an art appreciation course. I needed a fine arts credit and figured why not art appreciation. We only spent a small amount of time on renaissance stuff though, kind of disappointing.

Last Judgement by Michelangelo. Originally they were all naked, and Michelangelo did this to strip them all of their rank, making them all equal. The pope was pissed that Michelangelo painted a bunch of naked dudes though, and after his death they covered up the nudity.

Definitely going to start researching a lot of this stuff shortly. Is there a certain website you'd recommend to start on? And should I work my way by period or just jump all over the place?

There's actually a great book on this, I think it's also called last supper or secret supper or something like that. Although the book is fiction, it reveals a lot of detail about the painting

I always thought this one was pretty funny because of the self portrait. Michelangelo considered himself a sculptor above all else and didn't enjoy painting. He fucking hated painting the Sistine chapel and thought it would ruin him. 25 years later, new pope wanted him to paint the Last Judgement. Michelangelo painted himself in the Last Judgement as this pitiful looking sack of skin.

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When your skill is stunning several centuries later

How was it identified as being himself? Did he say he drew himself in?

I'd suggest learning about some of the principles of design and visual elements first and how they developed historically. Things like line and shape, size and proportion, perspective points and such. They'll help you understand and interpret the form and content of the classical works. You'll be able to think more critically about the works instead of just how pretty they look.

I did a whole quiz on /ic/ of thumbs of classic paintings, people had to guess title/artist

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anyone want to try and guess a few? i have 50+ lol

Because he's painted himself in his pictures before, and it has a pretty uncanny resemblance to him. He also painted himself in the last painting he did before his death, I'll have to find it.

The Master of Ceremonies, Biagio da Cesena, flipped his shit when he saw it.
So, Michelangelo painted him in as Minos and gave him some donkey ears. And a snake to cover his nudity.

He complained to the pope, who told him his jurisdiction did't extend to Hell, and so the likeness remained.

Thanks a lot. People like you honestly inspire me to learn so much about art

>tfw manlet

las meninas, ezpz shit

My fav

I think Degas did this beauty

This is my favorite honestly. Just love how ironic the picture is

Was just about to point this out too, Cesena's portrait Michelangelo painted.

YouTube, my friend, has a lot to offer when it comes to artists and art history. There are very many art documentaries, and videos from various exhibits. Could be of use to someone who doesn't have local access.

Thanks I'll look into it

lol no shit, the aga has fuck all coming in.

Here's something cool my art professor showed us. This is a self portrait of Rembrandt, painted around 1669 I think, few months before his death. Nearly all of his other self portraits, he's facing the right. Pretty sure this was the only one where he's facing left, and being painted shortly before his death months later, it's almost as if he's looking back and reflecting upon his life.

Keep learning user. And try not to stay here forever, like the rest of us. Or at least keep posting things that aren't traps or women shitting on their own faces.

I visited the Rembrandt house in Amsterdam, really awesome place to go if you're near there

For some reason, this piece really caught my eye when I first saw it in person. Portrait of Jacob Obrecht, painted in 1496 I think. It's not a very large painting, but the wooden frame and golden inscription and solid blue background really caught my eye. I guess the simple wooden frame, smaller size, and the content of the painting just made it feel like it was still stuck in the 15th century.

Been here since 2008 m8. I'm here for fucking ever.

and I guess it sort of gave me that King's Field kind of vibe.

Here's Donatello's statue of David. Unlike Michelangelo's, Donatello's depiction is after he defeated Goliath and this one isn't nearly as tall as Michelangelo's (17 fucking feet). Both great in their own right, though I think Michelangelo's David was much better if we have to compare, due to his sense of scale and proportions.

Also I'm running out of things to talk about

I've never seen this before. Striking.
I get that. I got here in 2007. It's only getting worse. I think...? I mean... it was never good. Yet it somehow manages to get worse! Impressive, really. Anyway, thanks for adding to this thread. Check my post out, not so classic per se but the details are insane!

Despite what people spout about this place never being good, there never used to be this amount of porn threads on Sup Forums, especially trap threads. Multiple YLYL threads, all full of bananas. Just completely asinine "debate" threads. This place has definitely gotten worse.

And I saw that, the detail is incredible! His use of light and shadow adds so much depth to the painting. I'm so envious of people who can bring the canvas to life, whereas I'm lucky to fill a piece of notebook paper full of stick figures. Actually thinking about taking a drawing class next semester, it'd break up the monotony of the math and science classes I'll also be taking.

Actually Michelangelo's David has bigger hands than normal because he intended for people to look at it from bottom upwards. If you look at him at eye level, the disproportion can be noticed

Might as well talk about this one, the Mona Lisa. Originally intended to be a portrait for presumably Lisa del Giocondo, Leonardo Da Vinci fell in love with his piece and never let go of it. It was "finished" around 1506, but Da Vinci continually worked on it for years and years after. He carried it around with him as he traveled.

Yes, that's what I'm saying; Michelangelo had a good sense of scale and proportions, as he was able to change these intentionally for intended effect, like in his sculpture of Mary holding Jesus.

You've heard how it is sometimes said that da Vinci hid his own face in the painting right?

RIGHT?! dude. If I had a buck for every YLYL banana and trap I saw here I'd have enough to take my college education over again. Damn shame really.

I've heard some rumors but never researched it. Got something to contribute?

Yeah, I've heard lots of things about the Mona Lisa. People have even tried diagnosing some of the illnesses she may have based on the portrait.

Ceiling of the Sistine Chapel by Michelangelo.

Like I said before in the Last Judgement post, Michelangelo didn't enjoy painting as much as he did sculpting. He really didn't want to paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. My art professor told me the pope would have banished him if he had refused. Took 4 years and he hated all 4 of them. It was dangerously high up, he was in an uncomfortable position all hours of the day (he didn't paint laying down, he was standing on scaffolding with his back arched and his neck bent upwards) and he almost went blind from all the paint dripping into his eyes.

Sorry no I'm just getting into this stuff myself

Lots of iconic imagery though. It was very stressful for him, and he thought the painting wouldn't be as good as the pope wanted and it would ruin him. Here's a poem he wrote about painting the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel:

I've already grown a goiter from this torture,
hunched up here like a cat in Lombardy
(or anywhere else where the stagnant water's poison).
My stomach's squashed under my chin, my beard's
pointing at heaven, my brain's crushed in a casket,
my breast twists like a harpy's. My brush,
above me all the time, dribbles paint
so my face makes a fine floor for droppings!

My haunches are grinding into my guts,
my poor ass strains to work as a counterweight,
every gesture I make is blind and aimless.
My skin hangs loose below me, my spine's
all knotted from folding over itself.
I'm bent taut as a Syrian bow.

Because I'm stuck like this, my thoughts
are crazy, perfidious tripe:
anyone shoots badly through a crooked blowpipe.

My painting is dead.
Defend it for me, Giovanni, protect my honor.
I am not in the right place—I am not a painter.

He actually ended up leaving the project once, when the pope asked him impatiently when it would be done and he responded equally impatiently and was struck by the pope with his cane. Took a written apology and 500 crowns to get him back.

There's honestly so much savagery in these artists. Like if they dislike someone, they'll draw them as the devil and whatnot. Total animals

GOOD THREAD GUYS, THANKS FOR THE CHANGE OF PACE.

the AGO and ROM in Ontario are worth seeing tbh
I was at the Royal Ontario Museum a few weeks ago and the chinese and aboriginal sections are the best

i like this

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Michelangelo also wasn't the easiest person to get along with. He was very critical of himself, and took criticism very harshly. His rival was Da Vinci, though I think it was Michelangelo that carried most of the contempt in that rivalry. There was a story that Da Vinci was discussing some part of Dante and saw Michelangelo passing and said "Michelangelo can explain it to you". Michelangelo took this very personally for some reason and had an outburst, reminding Da Vinci of his abandoned bronze horse project.

I fucking love the Mr.Dore and the wood engraving technique.

How could they have a rivalry though when da Vinci was primarily an inventor and painter while Michelangelo was a sculptor

And you also have to understand that he is a sculptor at heart while Da Vinci was a painter, and a leisurely one at that. Da Vinci was notoriously slow at painting. He was usually treated exceptionally better than Michelangelo was at times. Michelangelo had his nose broken and subsequently crooked for the rest of his life by a fellow scholar, has had several of his projects cancelled by people other than him, and getting marble from quarries was very dangerous work. He's written several times about this and about some of the close encounters of death he's had. Sculpting is also a lot of hard physical work compared to painting.

What were the close death encounters related to? Like was it fights or something else?

Because they were both artists, and I think it was primarily Michelangelo fueling the rivalry. Florence actually held a competition between Da Vinci and Michelangelo to determine once and for all who was the better artist. They both had to paint something spectacular, but if I'm not mistaken the project was abandoned by both parties before ever nearing completion. Da Vinci tried using encaustic to make his look shinier than Michelangelo's, but the colors ended up running together and melting and such, and Michelangelo I'm not sure if even painted anything; he started very late because he knew how slow Da Vinci was at painting.

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