I know I'm supposed to tip 20% at a restaurant

I know I'm supposed to tip 20% at a restaurant.

But am I still supposed to tip of its a buffet? I mean other than maybe bringing me a refill, the waiters don't do jack shit.

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the waiters dont spit in your food m8. Pay the damn 20%

They also usually bus your table and clean up after your messy ass.

I work in a restaurant, also tip. Waiters need that money

tipping is retarded

do you tip the cashier at the grocery store because the store doesn't want to pay her salary?

you're expected to pay a part of the waiter's wage just because the place they work for has been following a bullshit system put in place decades ago in order to get away with paying employees less during prohibition and everyone just accepted it as the way it should be thanks to marketing
congratz on making yourself feel less guilty about their wages because you tip but don't really do shit to change the shitty system that is fucking them over and forcing you to feel like you have to tip just so they can eat because it is acceptable to pay them below minimum wage as long as you are tipping

mr pink was right

This is correct, but you still should tip

I usually tip a flat $5 if it's a buffet. Overpaying ifthe buffet is 12.99 but even if its 30, you're all right.

If they bring you your drinks without asking and efficiently clear your plates, I think 10-15% is more than enough. I wouldn't tip the full 20% at a buffet.

They have to earn the 10%
Impress me and it goes up away from percent and flat cash.

and i do, begrudgingly
i know i have to because they honestly do need it to eat and live
but i try to inform them when i can to stand up for their rights to a fair wage

Good user. It sucks when I'm talking to my co workers and they say they barley made anything

You, being the unscrupulous fuck that you are, justify not tipping by pointing out the obviously flawed system and proclaiming that your tip-rebellion is "for their own good" as it'll eventually change the system.

Somehow you've tricked yourself into believing that your personal lack of contribution will somehow convince others to stop doing something that is considered common courtesy. What will really happen is you won't tip, servers will hate you and if you go to places repeatedly will get worse service/potentially other weirder nastier things occurring to your meal.

Well done, good thing you saved a couple bucks! You sure saved them from the shitty-tipping system.

Are you autistic or something
See

You should never tip dumbass. It's a waste of money.

Meal bare minimum tip - 15%
Buffet bare minimum tip -10%

Buffet servers run the food to the buffet, serve your drinks, handle seating and billing, and clean up after you (which is a bigger job at buffets)

>doesn't know how to read replies
>immediately jumps gear to rustled jimmies
yup that's exactly what i do Sup Forumsro

i never said i don't tip
i only said the entire idea of tipping is fucking retarded and anyone that defends the idea that we need tipping in the food sector is a fucking moron who doesn't know they are fucking over those waitresses just as badly if not worse then the few people who don't tip
because you are the one reinforcing a bullshit wage system

learn to read faggot

It's the customer's discretion at buffets. If your servers are particularly nice then yes 20%. But more often than not, servers at buffets don't give a shit about there job and its visible, so I go with 10%. I've worked buffets they usually suck as far as service

Why the fuck doesn't their boss front the tip? Why am I supposed to pay extra because "they don't make enough otherwise".

My gf works as a waitress and has the same argument so I don't feel like getting into that debate with her so I always tip so she shuts up, but I think it's bullshit.

this user gets it

"im supposed to pay your wage because your boss doesn't want too?"

They don't spit in spain and over here we don't leave any more than 2 euros of tip fgt

Are you dense? Its not their fault the boss doesn't pay full wage. Its been there since the 20's I'm not saying its a good system in fact its an absolutely shitty system but if you don't tip they barley make enough to live comfortably

>"the employee must earn at least the state’s minimum wage when tips and wages are combined or the employer is required to increase the wage to fulfill that threshold."

If someone who relies on tips doesn't make enough with her tips, the employer must pay her extra so she makes at least minimum wage.

So the argument that they won't make enough otherwise is bullshit. It's a shitty system enforced by society. It's no better than having to buy shit for baby showers or giving a couple $300 at an Italian wedding.

We're way too deep into tipping now. Also there are a few issues with the whole "just pay them more" thing. Waiters (good ones) can make way more money than most restaurants can afford them to pay for tips. I used to make like $250 a night working at an Outback Steakhouse. No restaurant is going to pay that. On top of that, in order to match wage the owners would have to pay like $30/hour. Why are you going to pay some 19 year old that's going to quit in 6 months $30/hour for giving people food? They're an intermediary. Not a skilled worker

and they are allowed to do so as long as cuck faggots are happy to tip because they think if they dont they will starve

what would happen if everyone stopped tipping
and employers still only paid waitresses 3.30 whatever the fuck an hour
they would all quit
employers would have no staff
they would have to change their policies in order to fairly pay their workers
and poof the system has fucking changed because people don't just give in to whats easiest
they struggle for whats right

cuck faggot

dafuq are you lying for?
I have never seen anybody tip two euros in Spain.

In any case waiters in Spain are paid real wages for their work, in the US waiters are paid 2 bucks an hour plus tips because of fucked up laws.

I have done the math in here to show how fucked up the american restaurant scene is, don't get me started again

If the service was good, and they did their job, I will leave a tip. If they were excellent at their job I will leave them a large tip. I once tipped $100 on a $37 bill because the woman still provided perfect service even though the restaurant was overflowing with people. If they are unjustifiably horrible at their job however, I tip them nothing. Servers do not automatically deserve a tip. They choose the job, and agree on the wages they get for that job. It is not my responsibility to make sure they make enough to live.

Read this you pathetic faggot. employers have to ensure they make at least minimum wage.

>b-but minimum wage still isn't enough to live comfortably!

Oh no! A fucking waitress with no skills can't go to cuba with her friends for a week! boo hoo

tipping should be a discretionary thing
if you feel the person deserved it for busting their ass sure toss them a few bucks as thanks
not feeling like you need to tip in order for that person to eat at night

pay them minimum wage
tell patrons they are not obligated to tip and that the servers are all making a wage/salary in your establishment
if they do great work sure they have potential to make more by working better at their profession if they work like shit
well at least they are making minimum wage

ITT: Retards and autists dont know what tipping is

Tipping is a way of showing appreciation for the personal service you individually recieve.

It has nothing to do with wages, bosses being cheap, etc.

It has everything to do with being a decent human being.

If you hate tippibg go eat at Arbys like the disgusting troll you are

>Tipping is a way of showing appreciation for the personal service you individually recieve.

That's what it's supposed to be. But it's forced upon us. Yeah, you don't have to tip. Even if you get shit service, everyone still ends up tipping at least 15% because it's "normal"

Relevant: youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38

thiswhen the media and society constantly shouts about how its your obligation to tip waitresses or they will starve or get paid less than minimum wage whether its the truth or not
what the fuck do you think the public will do?
start tipping more and more out of guilt
its not being done for the right reasons
and thats the point we were making
faggot

Bump

M8 I tip 15% unless alcohol is served In which I tip 18%

I tip like a God and am treated like one in the establishments I frequent. If you miserly/destitute bastards don't want to don't worry. I'll be sitting on complimentary drinks and apps (not to mention that dates are typically impressed when you have an excellent rapport with the staff at a joint) and don't mind covering for you.

What happens if i dont tip in u.s. restaurants? your system is so retarded, amerifags!

Honestly I'm cool with it as it allows wait staff to separate the wheat from the chaff.

can confirm works with the bars i frequent
can't even count how many times ive gotten drinks on the house because i tip the bartender very well everytime i am there

youtu.be/q_vivC7c_1k

Fuck tipping

Although he looks like a Vermicious Knid, this video is spot on.

I dont tip.
There is a price on we agree upfront, and thats wat i gonna pay.
Like when i drive with a taxi or have my hair cut or go to the grocery store.
End of the story.

you could also afford more drinks when tip less.

call me a nigger but i never tip

Except ost states pay their employees a normal wage like every other place does.

Fucking blue collar nigger.

Let's face it, the system in america is completely messed up. Let's go through the points one by one:

They should pay wait stuff minimum wage or more.
>waiters make more money with the current system.
>restaurants make more money with the current system
>diners pay less money, including tips with the current system.

The us government should not tax tips
>yeah, this is retarded. It is basically a bribe that restaurants give the government so that they let them continue to scalp the waiters and diners.