Most of you will work 2 fulltime jobs, never retire, and never own a decent house.
1% of the US controls 99.999% of the country's wealth.
Fascism in its purest form (Corporations + Govt)
It's time... to fight back. AMERIFATS UNITE!
Angel Gonzalez
1% of fatcunts eat 99.9999% of all the cheese burgers
Adam Baker
THEY CAN'T AFFORD DECENT FOOD
Tyler Robinson
Tribal states have failed. Monarchies have failed. Empires have failed. National-socialism has failed. Socialisme has failed. Communism has failed. So do YOU propose? Anarchism? Whe all know it can't possibly work with the unfanthomable amount of stupid as shit people.
Angel Walker
Democratic Socialism is the only answer.
David Adams
ah ah ah national socialism was actually a fucking massive success it just got beaten down by fighting a global war outnumbered 10 to 1.
Jaxson Torres
When the rest of the world is against you, it's called failing.
Tyler Rivera
When the rest of the world is against you, it's called a beta-uprising.
Ethan Nelson
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Kevin Perry
Venezula tried it. Looks like it is even more a failure than the rest.
Brayden Mitchell
lol Venezuela's brand of "socialism" was totalitarian, authoritarian fascism under the guise of socialism.
Connor Harris
>Capitalism has FAILED.
Jonathan Watson
>Democratic Socialism is the only answer.
Levi Morales
I work one fulltime job 11 shifts a month, make more than enough to live on, am provided full health, vision, dental, and will be retiring with a check for $250k and 60% of my salary for the rest of my life.
Stop fucking around on websites and fix your shit.
Carter White
Call me back when you've found a way to stop governments becoming authoritarian
Angel Howard
Because that's what fucking socialism IS
Cameron Morgan
>Boomers and the "greatest" generation vote themselves 30 year retirement packages >Put all our money into programs we could never sustain >Allow communists to take over our government and media >Change our immigration policy in 1965 to take in muds over whites, all of whom overwhelmingly require financial aid >Simultaneously pretend to be conservative while celebrating the moving of jobs overseas because now their toys and food are cheaper >Hire a nice mexcriment boy to do the manual labor around the house instead of a white kid to save 25 cents, kids growing up without being able to find jobs >With labor market flooded and economy in shambles, kids need a college degree to work at McDonald's
Yes, capitalism did it. Anything to absolve the previous generations of their guilt.
Jack Perez
Become the government.
Parker Powell
Gr8 b8 m8
Kayden Ramirez
Pffft lol k bud
Cooper Price
And become authoritarian in the process? You won't overthrow it without a coup d'etat
Hudson Davis
You're not wrong but it failed a lot slower than the wealth redistribution meme if america revolts, they can put this shit behind them and start again fresh until corruption makes its way in again if you fall for the meme, revolution will only be one step in a long, agonizing recovery process
Carter Cooper
let me make this clear
1% of the US controls 99.99999% of the nation's wealth.
That's a result of capitalism. Not benefits, not the overspending baby boomers.
Capitalism has FAILED. Done. But stupid people like you will defend the rich 1%. Because you believe in "trickle-down economics" (you've never had college-level economics courses).
Democratic Socialism is the only answer. Hillary will be the catalyst.
Dylan Murphy
On your own, or are you planning on taking over your government with a bunch of other like minded people who don't want power for themselves?
Then are you planning on making people be socialist with kind words and candy instead of force?
Oliver King
>1% of the US controls 99.99999% of the nation's wealth.
Isaiah Adams
BINGO x100000
Angel Roberts
lol you stupid fucking millennial. capatalisim rules we will never let ourself be lazy socialist fucks. stop expecting to have shit done for you just because you're alive.
Hudson Jenkins
user plz, what is the price of milk in your country? Would it have got to that level without competitive markets driving down prices?
Nolan Jackson
And don't forget, the new OT law is bad for business! It's a sad day when people feel entitled to be compensated for the hours they are required to work. Whatever happened to just being happy to have a job, regardless of if you get paid or not?
Henry Gray
>ctrl+v'ing instead of taking anything he said into consideration
This is just a new low.
Luke Baker
Not even a capitalist, but you're just blatantly wrong. Not only are your numbers just lies, but you have no supporting evidence and honestly, its easier to get a house on one income now, more then its ever been. Please re-frain from frantic shitposting.
Jaxson Robinson
>Create a government in which politicians cannot stray from it's founding principles, and do not have the power to manipulate its systems beyond their intended purpose. Educate people to be principled and have a sense of morality, and provide services and goods for them that stop any group from becoming marginalised and forced to commit crime. Finally, once people are able to function without guidance without causing conflict in this society, remove the leaders from power and allow the people to govern themselves independantly.
Brody Taylor
awe you're adorable
Tyler Fisher
Power centralizes user, you can and will never stop it. May as well just build a system designed to make stuff out of that principle
Kayden Diaz
>its easier to get a house on one income now You WHAT? ALL OF MY WHAT
WAGES GO DOWN PROPERTY VALUE GOES UP UNIVERSALLY. WHAT KIND OF DRUGS ARE YOU DOING
Luis Sanchez
And you're part of the problem. I didn't say this hasn't been tried and failed. No one's come up with a better solution, but clearly it isn't capitalism. If you've got a less cute idea, let's hear it.
Don't assume something to be true without reason, work out why this principle has held and find a way to stop it. What if the power isn't held by politicians, but by a computer that cannot possibly not follow the principles on which it's built?
Brody Price
Well it was nice of you to ignore my entire post, but if you're interested I've got a 4 year degree in economics.
Our white demographics have a tax surplus of something like 3k per person, we only run a deficit because of our huge minority populations and ridiculous spending programs (which are only really burdened by said minorities).
We drive up debt anyways because the only money we have is printed by a (((private))) entity and loaned to us at interest. The 1%, aka the extremely wealthy, almost always get their hoards of wealth through government policies that protect their businesses. See the financial bailouts, designed and lobbied for by an employee for goldman sachs.
But yeah dude, it's capitalism that failed. Let's ignore all the guilty generations before us, and then ignore the outright corrupt crony government involvement in the economy. Guess I'm #Shill4Hill now.
Robert Richardson
What about un strict meritocracy? With a senate formed by the best of the best, but with a way to censor it so they can't give privileges to their family/friends? It can't exist for real of course, but the idea is interesting.
Daniel Sanders
you're blocked (I have Sup Forums Plus)
I won't tolerate liars. This is a serious thread.
Gavin Sanchez
>(((private)))
Nolan Price
you mean the fact my milk has become x time as expensive (don't know precise numbers cause i don't check the market value of milk that often) in the last 40 years while the only difference between the the milk production than and now is that is more efficient
so milk from the same cows eating the same grass being processed more efficient became more expensive over the years because competitive markets drive the price down????????????
Julian Carter
The problem with economists is they only consider the material, the money, not the people it's supposed to serve. The purpose of society is to create an environment in which people live happy lives, so why hasn't that happened here? Maybe it's because capitalism assumes that the more money they have the happier they are, so it drives people to hoard it. So then you wind up with more and more of a divide between the rich and poor.
I think this is why people want a different system, because the priorities that capitalism is focused on aren't actually about people, just profit. Of course it doesn't matter what the system is if it's run by the wrong people, but it probably helps.
Cameron Cox
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Blake Rivera
So the legends are true. There is still people on Sup Forums that actually try not to shitpost.
Colton Rivera
ok simpler idea. get a fuckng job and learn what being an adult is. no government is perfect and no government can ever be perfect no matter how you go about it.
Camden Sanchez
You have literally no idea how economics works. Read something that isnt marx for your own sake
William Barnes
samefag
Nicholas Ross
> OP
Jeremiah Murphy
the problem with capitalism is that it works great in the first few generations and after that the money gets more centered and the opportunities become fewer.
it's great that a person can buy a second farm if he works hard it becomes a problem when a person owns almost all the farms in the country
Chase Gomez
If profit isnt prioritised, efficiency is given up, leading to communist countries being terrible at producing basic commodities. Do you want to queue for hours to get a loaf of bread?
Justin Smith
And that a farm hand can NEVER save up and buy a farm, in this economy. Ever. In his entire life. It's not possible.
Dylan Morris
Are you really this retarded? Anyone not pulling their weight in communism is beaten like a dog by secret police, and shit. That hours for a loaf of bread shit wasn't from COMMUNISM, it was from WAR AND TRADE EMBARGOS
Blake Sanders
that's why there are these magical things called investors
Jose Scott
>1% of the US controls 99.99999% of the nation's wealth.
This is a meme. But even if it weren't.. so fucking what? Those people got that amount of money by being smart, innovative, hard working and by taking risks. All things that you are not capable of. By doing so they created an enormous amount of wealth for themselves, and an even bigger amount for everyone else. Their employees who get a job for which they get paid salaries, the people who enjoy their products to make their lives easier, 99.999999% of all public services are paid by these guys, 99.99999999% of charities are paid by these guys etc etc etc..
All systems have income inequality, and in feudalism, socialism, communism.. you get an elite that becomes rich by literally stealing from everybody else and getting away with it, keeping the rest of the people poor. The rich people in a capitalist society didn't steal their money from the poor, they created the wealth themselves and made the people around them wealthier aswell.
Stop envying they neighbour just because you're a useless shit, and start praising the rich like the demigods they are because if it weren't for them you wouldn't be fapping on your laptop but you'd be warming your hands by buring your own shit.
Jose Fisher
They aren't investing in some boy who's worked for twenty years tending cattle trying to get a cattle ranch. They're just not, and if you think they are, you definitely have no personal experience.
Do you realize they could pay t hat same amount of money to someone who owns thirty other cattle farms and it's no risk for them?
Sebastian Cox
you kids are so ducking lazy it takes time and proving yourself. obviously your first investor may have no interest but you keep looking. you find that one anyone can make their dream happen.
Blake Smith
Well to be honest a free market has worked almost every time and quite well. But also on a macroeconomic scale it has minor flaws the state could fix with a little bit of that sweet Kenyesianism. Also the state could interfere a little bit in things where the focus on profit could damage or stop overall development like pharmacy or energy
Alexander Cox
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Adrian Hall
>proving yourself
>Do you realize they could pay t hat same amount of money to someone who owns thirty other cattle farms and it's no risk for them?
It just doesn't work that way, you stupid twat. You don't walk up to rich people and ask them for investment money, you invest through firms...
And NOBODY IS GOING TO INVEST IN YOU, because it is an inherent risk. If they wanted to invest their money in a proven industry, they would invest it in proven parties within the industry.
Money circulates in an insular way, dude.
Levi Thompson
That was cute. Try again.
Aaron Brown
>I work one fulltime job 11 shifts a month, make more than enough to live on, am provided full health, vision, dental, and will be retiring with a check for $250k and 60% of my salary for the rest of my life. >Stop fucking around on websites and fix your shit.
Will you be my grandpa?
Samuel Cooper
>see pic
;)
Believe it or not I'm an adult with a job, and I'm pretty sure I can have an opinion on how things could be better. Governments have never worked perfectly but don't assume they can't work as intended, and don't lose hope that nothing can be done to improve them.
Noah Morgan
hahaha.
Jacob Jenkins
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Christopher Richardson
>2016 confusing corporatism with capitalism.
Brody Lee
That is why I want a civil war or WW3. I don't care which but one of them.