Bernie Sanders calls himself a "socialist"

>Bernie Sanders calls himself a "socialist"
>he knows that a lot of people (about 40%) of the country completely dislikes socialism
>he is betting that more people will like socialism than dislike it
>he doesn't give a fuck about polarizing people, he's in it for the win
>the media fairly slams him for being a socialist, knowing that we used to be at war with socialism
>he screams discrimination
>meanwhile, his predictions don't hold up, and only 20% of the country actually likes socialism, 40% dislike it, and 40% are mixed about it
>the 40% who are mixed go other ways, presumably Clinton
>he considers himself a hero

What the fuck? Since when are cynicism and bad predictions the mark of a hero?

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Literally your first statement is wrong. Why can't Americans into politics?

Who in the right mind would vote for Hillary it makes no sense

>Bernie Sanders
Who?

What? How is it wrong? He really does call himself a socialist.

He's a social democrat, not a (democratic) socialist

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you trying to twist my words? Has the brainwash begun?

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>He's a socialist
>He's a democratic socialist
>He's a social democrat
Get the picture? Not even his followers know what the fuck he is. He's a fucking piece of shit socialist and yesterday's news. Why are people still bringing up this irrelevant piece of shit?

I hope you didn't get paid more than a nickel for that shitpost, son

You'd be surprised to find out we sell out for free, just because we don't want to hear Sanders' bullshit anymore. Go preach your funky bullshit somewhere else. I'm so glad the imbeciles lost.

Now, here you go, this guy commutes to work and is not rich.
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>I hope you didn't get paid more than a nickel for that shitpost, son
About tree fiddy faggot

>the media fairly slams him for being a socialist, knowing that we used to be at war with socialism

You were?
Holy shit Americans,you really are a fucked up nation. You're fighting boogeymen all the time.

Do you live in the half of Europe that was rebuilt under the Marshall plan, or in the half that actually knows what socialism is like?

Btw, I am from eastern Europe, faggot.

AAAAAAAND, YOU'RE GONE... YOU WON'T RESPOND TO THIS, WILL YOU?

>Holy shit Americans,you really are a fucked up nation. You're fighting boogeymen all the time.
Well this is embarrassing, we don't give a fuck about you at all.

Really?
Just because the majority of people on streets don't have a political science degree they're dumb?

Bernie Sanders is probably the only chance for a proper presidency in the US. And Jill Stein.

With higher taxes on the rich and wealthy, while also taxing capital gains more than we are, it will funds roads, schools, public healthcare, infrastructure(america still has a majority of lead pipes in their water systems). Closing loopholes in our tax code also will increase the amount of taxes that is receive.
The american dream as it is right now is a hoax to keep the american people working. It gives them false hope for a better life.
With a Scandinavian type of socialism will work. However we need more social cohesion in the US for it to even work. We need to actually put aside our differences (unlike some people, see BLM and Feminists) if we want the US to actually become the country its people deserve.

...Really? Sweden, Denmark, Germany during the 90s and 2000s. These countries all have social policies that benefit the people of these countries.

Socialism and communism are not one and the same. East Germany? Communist. Eastern Europe, before the iron curtain dropped? Communist.

With socialist systems the US could actually save money. Actually check out Bernie Sanders economic plans if he becomes president.

America hates socialism. Except when we call it names like social security, the postal service, highways, bridges, police, fire departments, garbage collection, medicare, national parks, public schools.

I will.
I live in the part of Europe that actually knew how to be socialist. Not communist, not a totalitaristic shithole, but actually socialist.

>Well this is embarrassing, we don't give a fuck about you at all.
So?
Is there a point to your post, or are you trying to showcase more of your American stupidity?

This user gets it.

>Is there a point to your post
Yes, see

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Do you like driving on public roads? SOCIALIST SCUM!!!!

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(Not from US)
Why do people call him a socialist?
What is his economic policy?
-Taxes
-Budget ect

If people are crying socialist because he is taxing capital gains and the rich then you are ignoring basic economics. A govt will not keep to money it collects it will spend it and lead to a multiplied amount throughout the economy. In theory.

Also America was never "at war with socialism"

I'm the same fag, btw, in both of those comments. I still expect an apology for your error. It's not an insult to be considered an American, but you did lash out at me. You shouldn't do that if you don't know what you're talking about. I do, I'm not a "brainwashed American".

If you're interested in any discussion, I can destructure Bernie's plan.

1.Medical care for all. Well, we do have in out country. It is an absolute atrocity. People die in hospitals and nobody gives a fuck. Anybody who is rich here goes to treatment outside. We have been complaining over and over and the government can;t do anything about it. 16% of our taxes go to the medical system, and it looks like a pre-soviet system, with rats and literally mobsters inside. All doctors require bribes to treat you.

Then, why the fuck would anybody give healthcare to people who smoke weed? What the fuck is this shit? Why don't you buy your own insurance, so you can see how costly it is to have unhealthy vices? It doesn't make any sense. it is just brainwashing.

2.Free college. Doesn't make any sense either. Instead of investing in children, you will just give money to young adults? And why give free colleges to everybody, instead of just making colleges more competitive by providing better scholarships? Doesn't that make more sense?

Besides, I have a good question: isn't the college who literally robs the student? Why do you blame the bank? It's the college that actually wants a huge sum you don't have. What should the government do, subsidize any foolish greedy teacher? What the hell is this? I don't understand.

>talks shit about sanders
>probably loves both trump and $hillary
Good job fucking up america with more garbage conservatives and neo-liberals

That is the stupidest statement I have read

They funded opposing forces in the 1919 civil war against the Bolshevik (communists) who recently overtook a capital authoritarian society and have gone against them in other circumstances aswell.

Bernie Sanders is the most based candidate we've had or likely will have for decades you inbred redneck. This shithole country deserves world war 3.

Forget about the term socialism

What does bern want?:
>free college
>free health care


That's socialism right there, wow such oppresion

Kill yourself faggot

Yep. Honestly if Bernie was a bit more realistic I bet he would have won this election hands down. Instead, he just divided the democrats. Good job asshole.

Realistic as in "manipulative"?

Kill yourself faggot

No as in less retarded.

>free healthcare
>but I can still smoke weed, right?

>free college
>yes, let's treat the competitive people like the nerds they are, and fuck scholarships, fuck everything

What a remarkable fiction you went to the trouble of typing up.

Thanks for nothing.

>My candidate failed
>We need World War 3
You are quite literally the perfect retard.

Free public universities. People are still free to go to private universities if they want.

My dad literally thinks we'll have lines for food and toilet paper etc like in the cold soviet union.

That's what most low-IQ Americans picture when they hear the word.

Bernie's strategy behind using the word was to try and "own" it, because otherwise it would be used against him in an even more inaccurate way by pundits catering to the fears of low-IQ folks than it already has been.

I honestly believe that HIllary cheated the system to get ahead of Bernie, and he would otherwise crush Trump in debates, because he is GOLDEN clean with vitrually nothing personal for Trump to attack him about (which has been Trump's only strategy for debating, defelcting, or raising money so far)

First of all, I DID NOT say you were a brainwashed american. Don't put words into my mouth.

Now to go onto your points.
Medicare and Medicade as it is right now is a broken system. Bernie Sanders is suggesting a complete overhaul on the medical system in the US to make it more affordable to the common people, and to bring in single payer health care.

Free college is the same as free elementary, middle, and high school. It's simply a more advanced curriculum. I don't know at the moment how Bernie Sanders will implement this system. I'm being brutally honest. I'm guessing that Bernie will make tuition free of charge and have a regulation board for public colleges to see if they're spending money properly. Everything else would be paid by students. Text books, living expenses, the works.

Maybe read my post a little more closely.

By competitive people do you mean rich people or something? Because he didn't say anything about lowering the requirements for admission to colleges.

So what if you're allowed to smoke weed faggot

also, what the fuck are you talking about on the 2nd idea

you make no sense so Kill yourself faggot

>Free public universities. People are still free to go to private universities if they want.
And once you get free public universities, you'll start crying that it's not fair people are going to private schools. You'll say they get better education than you do at your free public college then cry, and cry, and whine until you bring down the quality of higher education. You want free college? Get scholarships like the rest of us.

O..kay... but you already have free high school. You have 12 years of free education. And you want 4 more?

Let's assume yes. Then what, will you want 4 more after that?

Also, do you think the employers will hire you if you go to a free university?

Also, I'm assuming you don't want a religious university or a political one. You want a GOOD free university, with a lot of science in it. Do you know how much that actually costs? Do you understand now why the government and the universities only sponsor people who are extremely good in their fields and who are actually worth investing in?

Also, can you please answer my weed question? Do you want weed, and alcohol and tobacco to be legal at the same time as free healthcare?

No. No one is saying that. And you're probably a 14 year old who has never paid for anything in his life because even with scholarships college can be ridiculously expensive.

I honestly want to know this

>No. No one is saying that.
Yet. Your 'revolution' hasn't gotten that far

Why does it matter if weed is legal? If anything it will improve the state of healthcare. You're just derailing and making no sense at all.

Private universities are private, that's it. No one is complaining that they can't go to a catholic high school because it's too expensive.

Not the user you're replying to, however I feel that most of the people agreeing with socialist polocies also want the liberty to do whatever they want to with their bodies. If someone wants to take some weed, go ahead, but if you get lung cancer the government will only subsidise it a bit. (That's just how I would want it. I think Bernie Sanders will agree. Plus people are turning away from smoking to using vaporizers. More efficient at getting you high anyway.)

university should never be free. Otherwise, the economic value of all degrees goes down.

When you consider the only alternative is trump, it suddenly makes a lot of sense.

Examine what's happening in Germany or Ireland, where residents get universities tuition free. School is still hard. If anything, they've made the curriculum harder. Their value doesn't go down, you still have to spend 4 years of sweat and tears studying just to get the bachelors.

Yes I do.
No.
Yes I do. Employers already hire people from public universities. Why should the employer care whether the graduate paid for their education or the government did?
Private universities are free to have whatever religious affiliation they want.
Sure, you could say that about the fast food industry or another number of dangerous activities that are legal.

Socialism is the only way America will ever truly be free, comrade

A country as advanced as the US should want its people to be as educated as possible. This cannot happen when people who are capable of learning don't get to get an education because they were not fortunate enough to be born into wealth.

>First of all, I DID NOT say you were a brainwashed american. Don't put words into my mouth.
Don't get all nasty stay on point.

>Everything else would be paid by students. Text books, living expenses, the works.
Right, welcome back to reality, my friend. Only the tuition can be paid.

Now, about that tuition. We have that system here. Half of that tuition is paid by the student. And it is pretty low. It kinda works, but it really doesn't. Teachers require bribes, and the university is often out of funds. It's basically a shitty version.

Now, you say
> have a regulation board for colleges to see if they're spending money properly
Good luck with that. Did you take a crack at the highschool boards? Do you have any idea that the college boards will be even more corrupt? I'm being very honest now. Do you have any idea how brutally corrupt everything will be?

I actually have the solution. With that money, you can actually improve the high schools. With only a fraction of it. Then, if some want to go to college, you can give them more scholarships.

But the universities are corrupt. Why? Because they can. Trust me, I swear on my mother's life, here is how it happens. They charge you let's say 80,000 a year. In there, they teach you rainbow and sunshine and how to be a socialist. Then, when you can't pay, you make the loan and the university blames it on the banks. What the fuck, really?

And students are not going to blame corrupt teachers. They are attached to them. They blame the bank. This is fucked up. Besides, the student never actually sees the money. The money goes from the bank to the smiling professor who doesn't actually give a fuck. if the teachers wanted to do something good, the first thing they would teach.

The major problem is you can't cure stupid. No matter how much money you throw at people. Somebody who can't work after 18 yeas of socialism is a piece of garbage who will cause even more problems and will be afraid of the fair real world.

>doesn't know smoking weed is dangerous
You are so fucking retarded. No matter you want socialism.

I think you mean that people dont really like Trump but when the alternative is Clinton or sanders, Trump seems like a Godsend

Dude lost the primary...he is now Mr. Irrelevant

>don't get to get an education because they were not fortunate enough to be born into wealth.
Yawn. Because there is no such thing as scholarships, grants, and loans.

>Step 1 Get scholarship, loan, grant
>Step 2 Go to school
>Step 3 Pay back loan, grant

I used all three when I went to school and payed them back after I graduated. The only people the want free college are the ones that want to skip step three.

this. absolutely this

So, let me get this straight. You don't want to improve public health, because you want weed. But you want free healthcare. What the fuck? Should I kiss your ass and lick your feet too, mister?

>Why should the employer care whether the graduate paid for their education or the government did?
You are disingenuous. That's not the point. You know as well as I do that public education is shit. When somebody from Harvard goes to the employer, the employer feels overjoyed. But what the fuck is somebody supposed to do with a moron who graduated from Los Cojones Public State Socialism College? Give them a mop and a bucket? They already have people without school who can mop the floor and they have work experience.

If you're completely retarded, then yes,
Trump seems like a godsend because he is also retarded. If are sensible at all Clinton is the only way to go now that sanders is out.

Lol except it isn't.

He is suffering from precursory Alzheimer's

>If are sensible at all Clinton is the only way to go now that sanders is out.
Only if you're a progressive half-wit. The rest of the smart people know that after 8 years of liberal obama nonsense, it hasn't done a thing except slip the country further into the abyss.

Weed by itself would help to improve public health. And a degree is better than no degree regardless of what university it's from.

>are capable of learning
really, you think *everybody* is capable of learning and want to make college free for *everybody*? Would you be surprised to find out that about 70% of people are either mediocre or completely retarded? You want *college* for those folks? I think it's pretty decent that they already have high school.
They sit around in high school and "live the good life", and when they realize they wasted it, they roll the dice on more time and demand free college.

Oh noooo, we got healthcare and jobs! It's the end of the world!

Sure it isn't. Neither is tobacco or alcohol.
If you really want some socialism and some public health, you would militate against drugs. This would improve life and health dramatically.
You're shooting yourself in the foot, you retard, with your drugs, and your free healthcare on top of a joint.

University should stay as it is. In the U.S. we need more skilled labor.

Maybe not everyone is capable of learning. Your financial status does not (or should not) determine whether or not you are capable of learning though. There are poor people who would do great in college.

I'm not paying taxes because
>And a degree is better than no degree regardless of what university it's from.
Instead of asking me to pay 80,000 dollars for your diploma, you should start learning in school.

>There are poor people who would do great in college.
What is a scholarship?
Do scholarship exists, or did I just make up this word right now?

Inb4, follow up: what is the solution to too few scholarships?
Is it 1)free college for all the imbeciles?
or 2)more scholarships for the smart people?

>jobs
I bet your using unemployment numbers aren't you? Try using workforce participation figures instead. Your 'hero' is a fucking loser.

Marijuana would help a lot of people get off of prescription drugs. I know a lot of people who have died from pills that they became addicted to bc of an injury/accident. I don't know anyone who has died bc of marijuana. I've been smoking A LOT of weed for years, and I've been in and out of the hospital bc of a recent injury. The doctors can't tell that I smoke. They always say how healthy I am. They even comment "i see you don't smoke, your oxygen levels are excellent!"

If anything get rid of the alcohol and tobacco (which if you knew anything about history you would know that that would still be retarded) But marijuana would be great for public health

Yep bc unemployment numbers are what count retard.

Even with a scholarship school can be extremely expensive. Again, it's obvious you've never paid for anything in your life you child.

Of course it would be retarded to get rid of it through law. It was called the prohibition and it was a mess.
This is what "personal responsibility" is, faggot. You ca do whatever the fuck you want. What we want in return is to not make us pay for your mistakes.
You smoke or drink shit, no healthcare for you.

You're truly retarded if you think trying to get a job with a high school diploma is as easy as trying to get a job with a bachelors from a public university. Truly retarded.

At least you've figured it out.

Why the fuck is everybody so hellbent on going to college when they should be learning a trade. I've heard plenty of parents/teachers threaten their kids with "if you don't go to college, you will end up being a plumber" I've yet to meet a plumber yet that didn't own his own home and have a great life while the ones that went college to get a communications degree are working at starbucks, broke and screaming for Bernie to make it all better.

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Lol I'd love to see you implement that. How old are you, 12?

Should have been a National Socialist instead of the pussy kind.

>Even with a scholarship school can be extremely expensive.
Not really. That;'s the point. College should cost about 80,000 a year, and you should make that money once you get out of school. If you can't make that money, either you're a retard, or the university overcharged you.
So, this is where the scholarship steps in. It's basically nothing for an adult to pay that.
So, stop saying you need more money for school. You don't. If you will work after it, you don't. If the university is not overpriced, you don't.
Your POV doesn't make any sense anyway. Why would you go to a school if you can't pay it afterwards?

Actually, only if it fits your narrative, you fucking idiot.
>A citizen is classified as a member of the labor force if he has a job or is actively looking for a job. The participation rate is the percentage of adult Americans, excluding those incarcerated or otherwise institutionalized, who are members of the labor force. The 21st century has seen a steady decline in labor force participation. In 2000, it was 67%; by 2013, it had fallen to 63%.

Many economist argue the labor force decline is the result of low-skilled workers losing their jobs to outsourcing or automation, having no success finding new employment and therefore dropping out of the labor force entirely. For this reason, they feel the participation rate is a more accurate measure of the state of the job market than the unemployment rate, which only considers those in the labor force. An unemployment rate of 5% means only 5 out of 100 workers in the labor force are without jobs, but it does not consider those unemployed workers who have given up looking altogether, even though they want to work.
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>what is the national socialist German workers party
Aka the nazis

The bulk of the whining comes from graduates that receive a degree in some bullshit field/subject. My favorite example is a neighbors daughter and my childhood friend. She went to Colgate University to get a Literature degree/Czech studies and is now unemployed . My friend went to a Chapman university and now works as a investment portfolio manager at a large firm. Guess which one owns a home with a family and doesn't want anything to do with Bernie?

>they feel the participation rate is a more accurate measure of the state of the job market than the unemployment rate, which only considers those in the labor force

i never realized this

thanks user

Aw fuck off. Anyone who doesn't see democratic socialism as the right way to go is either as profiteer, a politician who takes their money, or an idiot who listens to their "evil liberal" sermons.

>Guess which one owns a home with a family and doesn't want anything to do with Bernie?
The successful one?

I know. But I'm doing the work trying to wake up these morons.

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>Aka the nazis
I hope you're not implying that National Socialism is a redundant idea, pre war Germany was a shining example to the world.

>my country was rebuilt under Marshall plan
>money used to become a socialist country
>my country paid back all the Marshall money
Dunno, looks like it worked.

Hillary Clinton is not a climate denier, that is all she needs to do to be a better candidate than trump. Why people nominated Hillary over Bernie? Because most of the dumb asshole voters in the country use propaganda before reason

>competitive people
You mean those sport jocks right? Getting it free and shit by throwing some ball. That's a real competetive sport I admit but what does it have to do with college?

>my country paid back all the Marshall money
Source?

Also, are you sure you paid with the money from socialism and not the money from your colonies?

Do you even science, brah?
You really don't know what academically competitive means, do you?