It's time to stop fucking around and admit that we're a complete shambles. We're not building a side to win a tournament, that's over, it's been over for years, we need a rescue job now. A manager who can take a failing side and instil some basic fucking competence so at the very least there's a coherent plan and shape to the team.
I know in engeland there aren't many dentists, so as a good friend I guess we can borrow you one of ours.
Jackson Ortiz
Big Sam would be a good call. The football might not be easy on the eye but he'd get the team working as a more cohesive unit, that's for sure.
Too big a personality for England's FA though who want a puppet in charge. Southgate will get the job.
Liam Robinson
>Big Sam would be a good call. No it wouldn't, he's fucking awful/
Cooper Wood
Just get a JF in.
If Southgate is appointed I won't watch an England game again until the 2018 WC. He's a moron.
Nolan Rivera
Please explain how Big Sam will teach these grown men how to adopt master class skills such as the 5 yard pass and ball control from a moving ball inches away from your feet?
Jeremiah King
That's a big part of what appeals about Sam, he would tell the FA to fuck right off if they tried to interfere.
Which is why he'll never get the job like you say.
Why wouldn't he be a good fit for the England job?
If it's down to the style of football don't bother replying.
John Murphy
He's a shit manager who manages shit teams and ends up in relegations scraps.
If this is your idea of progress then you're a clown.
It's utterly depressing the state of English management at the moment and we should consider a single one of them.
Camden Price
So who's your choice?
Wyatt Thompson
>England have won 6 knockout matches since 1966 >Germany have won 6 tournaments
Ethan Sanchez
A JF.
Nicholas Reed
Which one though?
A JF would be fine with me, but would anyone with a serious pedigree be mad enough to take the job?
Juan Smith
...
Matthew Thompson
No. I like AVB and the job would destroy him.
David Lewis
Rafa.
Lucas Sanchez
I don't even dare to hope for a manager as good as Rafa at this stage.
Fuck me, why didn't we sack Hodgeson when he was out of a job?
James Hall
PSG's former coach :^)
Andrew Cruz
Lol, we say the same thing every 2 years. Just enjoy the ride.
Jaxon Murphy
international management is totally different to club management though. in international you get seriously limited time with the players, you have to get them playing a system they all understand with players they aren't familiar with, all with minimal time together. i agree in club management big sam runs out of ideas eventually, and better managers with more comprehensive strategies beat him, but i really think his simple, effective approach to football would get us pretty far in the few matches that make up a tournament.
Christian Ward
50 YEARS OF HURT
Why can't they win anything?
Hunter Edwards
England's next manager? It's your only option, he can do it. Also you have to switch back to playing 4-4-2
Michael Russell
Yes, give a broken team to a guy who has absolutely no experience as a manager, what could possibly go wrong.
Henry Evans
it's just the kind of outside the box thinking we need
Jason Russell
How about we let a woman manage? It's 2016 guys.
Luke Hughes
Well Southgate is bookies favourite m8
Ian Cox
Well it's been a fun 20 years but i think I'm finally ready to quit supporting England. EPL only from now on.
Logan Perry
This desu i think its only right we let a Pan-European Gender-Neutral Trans-Person a chance of Managing England. I mean Equal Opportunites and all that
Jason Fisher
EDDIE IN WHEN
FAST FEARLESS ATTACKING FOOTBALL IN WHEN
Jackson Ward
#Nasri2016
Blake Perez
>Also you have to switch back to playing 4-4-2
Sure, why not. I mean last night we were soundly beaten by a team using our own tactics from 30 years ago. Maybe we were hasty in ditching winning ways.
Jordan Walker
>tfw they do that and end up winning a trophy
Luke Jackson
The way things are going the US will win a WC before England.
That's how completely fucked this team and the FA are. There is no saving it.
Aaron Murphy
Eddie Howe does sort of look like a middle aged lesbian desu.
Jordan Jackson
Painful to see the pundits talk about how we've gone for a foreign manager before and it's failed so we shouldn't try again.
We had sven, who did reasonably well even though he wasn't a world class manager, and Capello who'd never managed internationally before and could hardly speak English
Daniel Bailey
Perfect
Andrew Wilson
RAFA BENITEZ WILL NEVER BE OUR MANAGER
JUST
Brody White
Harry was just talking about how big a disaster Sven was and he basically called him a no name while bigging up sherwood for the job
The problem with English football in a microcosm
Landon Evans
No he's a literal fucking retard.
Ryder Sanchez
I don't care where the manager comes from or what he's done before.
All I want is someone who can make the players have confidence in whatever style of football or game plan he has them using.
We can play Greece 2004 bus parking, I don't give a toss as long as the players look like they know what they're supposed to be doing and believe that doing it well will bring results.
Isaac Baker
The players are the problem, pick some that can actually work as a team, don't just throw a bunch of the PL's big names together and hope that they gel.
Landon Russell
What you need is literally Scolari.
Yeah, he has the tactical acumen of a doorstop but when it comes to making a cohesive group, when it comes to defending his players, when it comes to turning a bunch of pampered ninnies who like to dress up in national colours and prance about like a bunch of twats into football-playing men, when it comes to chewing out the journalists and pumping up the country there's no one better.
Just get him English lessons. Ain't no use trying to tell off a punter when you don't know to call him a cunt.
Matthew Lewis
Sven's time looks like a golden age compared to now, at least people had a reason to get hyped.
Matthew Cox
How will England top this in 2 years time? It's going to have to be pretty spectacular, like failing qualification after losing to the Faroe islands or a 7-1 to Sweden.
Joseph Wood
All English managers are shite. Pick a foreign manager.
I wasn't aware that there was a list of dogshit English managers we had to get through first.
Aiden Green
>That's a big part of what appeals about Sam, he would tell the FA to fuck right off if they tried to interfere.
yeah sure, that is the appeal. someone who just yells at people you don't like and tells them to fuck off
but is he a decent manager? oh right, he isn't. so fuck him.
Joseph Brooks
Fuck Allardyce, we need PULIS
Imagine going into a tournament as a team that the others actually feared
We need to embrace anti-football and murderball. Clearly trying to be good guys doesn't work, so it's time to embrace the dark side
Nolan Johnson
#BRINGBACKFERGUSON
Bentley Morris
>The players are the problem
Think that line of reasoning through for a moment though.
It's basically saying that the players have to be responsible for forming themselves into a proper football team and working out a way to play together effectively.
It's just not their job to do that shit. If the wrong players are selected and they're given retarded instructions what do we expect from them? Are they supposed to rebel and refuse to play, or from into a committee and decide upon their own game plan?
I'm not absolving the players and saying they're a great bunch of lads who din do nuffin wrong, but come on, this is a problem created by the FA and the managers they hire.
Elijah Barnes
What about Hiddink?
Nathaniel King
PULIS U L I S
Lucas Moore
It's a manager's job to keep the players' egos in check and make them see the big picture. Every big team, be it national or clubs, has to deal with that issue.
Josiah Scott
Why has everyone forgotten about 'Arry
Cooper Adams
To think that a literally who country of 10 million could ever come close to even having the base quality and the reputation required to be considered the villains of a Euro nowadays, is insane. And this despite the best efforts of Santos and that imbecile Paulo Bento in wasting it.
It's thanks to him. And he may have not been able to give them a trophy but he gave them an identity and a set of balls.
Zachary Robinson
>Painful to see the pundits talk about how we've gone for a foreign manager before and it's failed so we shouldn't try again.
i agree m8.
none of the english managers we tried before did very well either, with the one exception.
its just parochial autism - MUHHH INGERLAND NEEDS INGERLISH MANAGER.
Kevin Garcia
Exactly The problem isn't so much the manager as it is the team and the league overall. They've got too many arrogant fucks that think they're """WORLD CLASS""" because they make £100k a week to sit on the fucking bench.
The fact that Wilshere made the squad over Drinkwater/Noble proves that English football is a joke
Owen Sanders
PIOJO HERRERA
Anthony Wilson
The English lack the brains, heart and spine for sports, you'll need a Johnny F. to save you.
Colton Morales
>Hi >I'm here for the job interview
Kayden Young
>Why has everyone forgotten about 'Arry
because the FA doesn't want another tax scandal and they don't want to be bankrupted?
he's a thieving cockeny cunt.
Andrew Thompson
I agree with them. We all acknowledge that the manager is just as important if not more so than the players, so drafting in a JF is almost like cheating. The same rules should apply to NT staff as to the players. I don't know why it doesn't.
Henry Clark
desu there should be a rule that the manager should be from the country too senpai
Jacob Hall
Complete bollocks.
The players don't select themselves.
And if they really are as arrogant as people seem to think then why do they follow Hodgson's retarded instructions?
Jace Ward
>Messi, Aguero, Higuain, lavezzi, Mascherano, Biglia and Di Maria all retiring from Argentina
Can we trade the falklands for these? They're all better than every one of our players
Oliver Cook
>We're not building a side to win a tournament, that's over, it's been over for years England have been building a team since 2004. And we'll have at least 4 more years of it when Southgate becomes manager.
As a Welshman, I can't wait to see another generation of mediocre England tournament performances.
Jaxson Diaz
>Unbeaten in qualifying they said. >Best team since '66 they said. >Rooney's still world class they said. >Roy's warriors.
Andrew Turner
Just get over yourselves and hire a fucking Argie already.
Christopher Mitchell
>a fucking dentist
Should we just hire an oesteopath to do the job?
Oliver Wood
Bielsa is going to Lazio mate.
Nolan Bell
Just give it to some random Italian like every PL team is doing
Andrew Davis
Whose fault is this?
Ayden Fisher
That's what happens when you start Kyle Walker ahead of Clyne.
Jonathan Smith
whover number 2 is, also partly Rooney because he deosnt even jump that was a big guy so it's not that bad. The manmarking by that guy was terrible tho
Jeremiah Martin
>tfw you get caught lookin at a girls boobs
Ethan Collins
>eplel defense
Daniel Rogers
>you now remember Rory Delap
John Morales
1. Rooney contested the ball but got beaten to it and pushed off it like a small child, a weak attempt by rooney.
2. Bertrand was asleep, he did not watch his man and let him slip away.
3. Tactics - Iceland have done this tactic in all of there matches and it worked already, why did they not practice defence against this?
Dominic Thomas
THIS
Wyatt Roberts
fat sam is more stubborn than hodgson.
when carroll and nolan got injured, west ham played the best football of his whole time there with two pacey strikers and got them into the top four.
as soon as his favourites came back to fitness, we went back to playing dire fucking shite, hoofing it up to carroll to knockdowns for a geriatric kevin nolan and had relegation form until the end of the season, finishing in the bottom half.
Hudson Nelson
i know some of you guys dont like him, but magath is who your national team needs right now. he is the best at rescueing teams when they're complete, utter shit. you may hate him for his unconventional methods but he's just the toughest coach there is.
Christian Morris
are our players as good as spain germany argentina etc
hell no
is our manager?
hell no
i dont know why anyone expected anything but humilation when we have 0 world class players and a clown as manager
He tried to get out players to ignore the physios and recomended they rub cheese on their injuries every evening
Samuel James
>Got England to Quarter Finals. >Better football than Hodge >Better results than Hodge >Mocked and ridiculed by fans. >Mocked and ridiculed by media.
Those were the glory days, eh Inglunders. You don't deserve any success. Enjoy the next 50 years out in the wilderness.
Jackson Wood
this is the other coach i strongly recommend. matthäus was a tactical genius as a player and has been a godlike coach wherever he took the job. its kinda unfair he doesnt get a job in germany because he had some trouble with the media like 15 years ago.most underrated coach in the wolrd
Brody Roberts
loddar pls go
Josiah Sanchez
yeah if england had done that maybe they would have won against iceland also >fulham fan lol
Camden Myers
>Got England to Quarter Finals. >Better football than Hodge >Better results than Hodge >Mocked and ridiculed by fans. >Mocked and ridiculed by media.
Those were the glory days, eh Inglunders. You don't deserve any success. Enjoy the next 50 years out in the wilderness.
Angel Martin
Clough when?
Anthony Sullivan
He's doing punditry for ITV this tournament. His English isn't really up to scratch
Luis Watson
They should take Laudrup
Ryan Sanders
thats a psychological thing. basically a lot of pro high level players these days a massive pussies.if you believe in your coach, you believe that the cheese will heal your injuries (magath knows it actually doesnt) and you not feel pain or the injury anymore whilst playing. makes you tougher, a mental exercise. there are a lot of mma fighters that do similar things. but i guess english players arent loyal enough to their coaches or are just too stupid to actually get the idea behind the cheese. they probably ate it with beans on the side
Christian Jenkins
THE FUTURE IS NOW! THE FUTURE IS SOUTHGATE.
B E L I E V E E L I E V E
Liam Watson
and this is the guy you want as a national team manager, like the same position oliver bierhoff (sportdirektor) has on the german national team. calmund knows the business like noone else, he knows how the infrastructure has to be, how the team has to talk to the media, basically everything that the coach doesnt need to handle. he is also very knowledgle concerning a healthy diet for the players (no joke jere, he's just fat because he loves food, not because he eats unhealthy). and to top it off, he will uplift the spirit of your whole english team because of his awesome personality. thats what you need the most right now.
Christopher Johnson
What kills me about this is that everyone saw it coming. We were joking on here before the tournament that we'd scrape through the group stages and get put out by the first decent team we face. I had a Germany or Italy in mind but it turns out that team was Iceland.
The warning signs were there all along >abject failure to accept before the tournament that a team built around Rooney wouldn't work so we went in to the first competitive game with a brand new, untested formation >the selection of Wilshere ahead of Drinkwater >...probably partly because Woy doesn't like Vardy and didn't want him to have to have a mate in the dressing room saying "er, what more could Vardy have done to get selected and one more could the self-proclaimed Hated One have done to get himself dropped?"
Woy is obviously in thrall to the big name players, the big money transfers, the big name clubs an the Heat magazine lifestyle.
>Wilshere plays for Arsenal and I like him so he's in >Hart had some absolute shockers but keep picking him anyway 'cause he plays for City >Vardy on the bench - not proven quality >keep playing Sterling - he may be shit and in the middle of a nervous breakdown but City paid 49M for him and that's good enough for me >after FINALLY realising that Sturridge and Vardy had earned a start, he sabotaged his own team by making 4 other changes, including 2 totally non-match fit players instead of just re-using the ONLY decent performance of the tournament, the second half against Wales >didn't beat Slovakia okay then Kane and Sterling you're back in! >bring on Wilshere AGAIN despite his shocker when he got a start >wait till the 85th minute to bring on Rashford - one of our few bright lights - against Iceland.
And NOW the press are all joining in saying he's shite after indulging the fucking obvious fiction that we've been playing well in the tournament. I know you're supposed to support the manager, but Hodgson needed pressure and our press failed to provide it
Liam Sanchez
FUCKING THIS
Jonathan Jackson
you can have klinsi if you want him
Aiden Clark
>defending M2M >remaining men have no idea where to stand This is why you defend Zone in free kicks/corners/throw ins. Or at the very least tell your open players to spread out ffs.