IDM is really condescending and pretentious sounding for naming a genre...

IDM is really condescending and pretentious sounding for naming a genre. What's a better name that I can use to describe artists usually swept under this blanket term? I could get really specific with each artist of course (as maybe you should) but if there's something else you've thought of when trying to get around the arrogant sounding term it could be a good alternative... I mean, if you talk to music people I assume they understand what IDM is so maybe there's no point in changing it but it's still a weird moral issue for me I guess.

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>dance
I thought it's intelligent digital music
so, you're supposed to dance to it?

It's def dance, but digital is probably a lesser-used version of it. You are supposed to dance to (all music too imo) it, I know I do ;)

I mean, not all of it was made digitally. Lots of it is analogue signals my dude.

>>Aphex Twin
ambient techno/jungle

>>Autechre
techno

>>Boards of Canada
downtempo

>>Squarepusher
future jazz

add hip hop to autechre also

Perhaps. I don't agree with some of it, but I wouldn't utter these in not a joke sense among normies or non-musical explorative people. The dilemma is finding a good name for these kinds of artists that doesn't lead to "Oh, IDM? I thought it was EDM, no?" in conversation and have to say "Oh dear, the difference is that it is INTELLIGENT dance music."

a lot of it is just ambient techno desu

what is it with you retards here and fucking ''normies'' bullshit? Just say ambient techno and kys.

Simple solution! I just am not an EDM/IDM dude in general so this my first foray into discussing it so no bully pls!1!

who gives a fuck what normies think. I say idm all the time and nobody gives a fuck.

It's not that I care what they think, I think IDM sounds snobbish and I definitely have had people say "fuck that noise!!" but I'm just trying to think of alts like "ambient techno" to not 1. explain it and 2. have to roll my eyes when I do talk about the music.

who cares if it sounds snobbish thats the term coined for it. why don't you do some additional reading on why its called IDM via google search engine.
Then use your brain to make the term seem accessible to anyone.

the most accurate thing I can think of would be calling it 90s British Post-dance Experimentalism, but I'm not sure that's much better (BPE?)

>Aphex Twin
SAW 85-92: Ambient Techno
SAW II: Ambient
ICBYD: Industrial Techno/Illbient
RDJA: Drill & Bass
Come To Daddy: Electro/Drill & Bass
Windowlicker: Electro/Downtempo
Drukqs: Drill & Bass
Syro: Drill & Bass/Acid House

>Autechre
Incunabula/Amber: Electro/Ambient House/Ambient Techno
Tri Repetae: Electro/Minimal Techno
Chiastic Slide: Industrial Hip-Hop
LP5/Confield/Draft7.30/Untilted: Glitch/Glitch-Hop
Quaristice/Oversteps/Exai/Elseq: Ambient Techno/Glitch/Musique Concrete

>Boards of Canada
MHTRTC: Illbient/Ambient Techno/Trip-Hop
Geogaddi: Ambient Techno/Trip-Hop
TCH: Indie Rock/Trip-Hop
TH: Ambient Techno/Trip-Hop

>Squarepusher
Nu-Jazz/Future Jazz/Drill & Bass/Acid House

THIS

You didn't coin the term, it was an internet mailing list, if people don't like it, tough shit, thats the umbrella term

BPE is a good acronym, but I dunno about the words when un-packed.

I just wanted to discuss mostly. I'd be doing what you're telling me to do anyway.

lol you actually typed that all out

...

yup

THIS is the problem!! I feel like I'm just saying "I'm too intelligent for dance music" - IT'S A TERRIBLE UNHUMBLE FEELING I MUST ESCAPE

Just explain where the name came from, problem solved.

I think it's mostly fitting
>90s
unless you count stuff like RDJ's really early unreleased recordings the early 90s is definitely when the genre started
>British
all the artists that really pushed what would eventually become IDM are British, and the genre originated from bleep techno, a British style derived from Detroit techno
>Post-dance
while this might not necessarily be 100% accurate it was seen as more experimental and meant for listening rather than just being DJ fodder. maybe this could be replaced with a more generic Electronic, but that would make the acronym BEE.
>Experimentalism
it was experimentation on the dance genres of the time, pretty self explanatory

It is very well though out, it's just long. It works if you know some context, but it would be a terrible genre tag lmao.

>listening to EDM or IDM

>not listening to EBM or IBM

just you enjoy both
but I mean anybody can tell there's a different vibe going
with this youtube.com/watch?v=Q0q1gCsZykg

to this youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I

yeah, hence why I said accurate but maybe not much better
I'd probably still take it over the current name though, but it's not like that's going to happen after IDM is already the established term

whats it mean user? tell me about it? is it like skrillex?

I love 90s rave music for its catchyness and camp. I couldn't ever pretend to not like almost %90 of DDRs soundtracks.

>Artists that appeared in the first discussions on the list included Autechre, Atom Heart, LFO and Rephlex Records artists such as Aphex Twin, µ-ziq and Luke Vibert; plus artists such as The Orb, Richard H. Kirk and The Future Sound of London, and even artists like System 7, William Orbit, Sabres of Paradise, Orbital, Plastikman and Björk. By the end of 1996, Boards of Canada and the Schematic Records label were among the usual topics of discussion

>During this period, the electronic music produced by Warp Records artists such as Aphex Twin, Autechre, LFO, B12, Seefeel and The Black Dog, gained popularity, as did music by lesser-known artists including Degiorgio himself under various names (As One, Future/Past and Esoterik), Steve Pickton (Stasis) and Nurmad Jusat (Nuron) also found an audience, along with bigger-name, cross-genre artists like Björk and Future Sound of London.

>In the mid-1990s, North American audiences welcomed IDM [...] artists like Doormouse, TRS-80 and Emotional Joystick. Tigerbeat 6, a San Francisco-based label has released IDM from artists such as Cex, Kid 606 and Kevin Blechdom.

>Contemporary IDM artists include Team Doyobi, Himuro Yoshiteru, Kettel, Ochre, Marumari, Benn Jordan, Proem, Lackluster, Arovane, Ulrich Schnauss, East India Youth and Wisp, among many others.

So no real sound that ties them together then.

ELM

electronic listening music

EBM is electronic body music.
IBM is industrial black metal.

The fact that you aren't aware of either genres says a lot about the people who listen to IDM.

I don't listen to a lot of IDM, sorry bro

>Björk

loooooool

>The fact that you aren't aware of either genres says a lot about the people who listen to IDM.
not really?

was just bait

this is embarrassing. its electronic music shut the fuck up!

>EBM is mallgoth garbage
>IBM is mallgoth garbage
ftfy no need to thank me

electronic music is an even worse buzzword than idm

better be a mallgoth than a delusional nerd

no.

>>>/watmm/

The fact that so many Sup Forumstants still use the term ''electronic music'' only tells you how far Sup Forums still is from becoming a serious music board. Europeans have long recognized that their is no similarity between all the genres lumped together except for the plug attached to some of the instruments yet Sup Forums still persists. Good music boards rank the highly different genres and their subgenres yet Sup Forums still calls them all elelctronic. Sup Forums is still blinded by rockism: it all ''sounds the same'' and the instruments have plugs (not true, by the way), therefore it must all be the same genre. Europeans grow up listening to a lot of ''electronically produced'' music of the past, other boards grow up listening to a lot of ''electronically produced'' music of the past. Sup Forumstants are often totally ignorant of the ''electronically produced'' music of the past or anything past rock, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that ''electronic'' is a genre.

Musique concrete
EAI / Onkyo
Turntable / tape music
Electronic rock crossover
Ambient
Hip hop
Dub
Downtempo / Chillout
Chillwave / Vaporwave / Internet genres
Techno and many subs
House and many subs
UK Garage and many subs
Trance and many subs
Breaks and many subs
EDM
Drone
Noise
Industrial
EBM
Synthpop

>I know i do ;)
kys

don't know what that is and you're still a retard.

>he scared of my moves
haha

Complex Carbohydrates is really condescending and pretentious sounding for naming a food group. What's a better name that I can use to describe foods usually swept under this blanket term? I could get really specific with each food of course (as maybe you should) but if there's something else you've thought of when trying to get around the arrogant sounding term it could be a good alternative... I mean, if you talk to music people I assume they understand what Complex Carbohydrates are so maybe there's no point in changing it but it's still a weird moral issue for me I guess.

I just call em carbs and get it done with desu

I gotta say you really didn't aspire for greatness with this one. The potential is there, you just didn't try.