I can't stand these fags and the worship they get on this board

i can't stand these fags and the worship they get on this board

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sleaford mods are alright mate relax

Their old stuff was WAAAAAAYYY better

Now its all random shit instead of the great ambient techno they use to make

He's smoking the fag...

but they are great user, and what worship are you talking about

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Damn, age takes its toll

yeh they've been together 30 years innit they must've shagged at least once tbqh

They're okay but I don't like the IDM community and they are cucks who think the term IDM is racist.

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>I cannot understand this music and I hate the people who enjoy it

Corrected.

autechre haven't even been rlly identifiable as '''''idm""" since like '98 tho, apart from maybe untilted (which is their worst tbf). honestly there isn't even a community anymore, watmm is about the last vestige of it and loads of ppl can't stand that place (myself included)

>they are cucks who think the term IDM is racist.
who? ae?

Yeah, they said so, or maybe Sup Forums lied to me.

Yes, they did say as much. I think it's a pretty understandable position coming from their perspective though.

Maybe, but I don't agree with it.

Yeah, I mean....I don't think that was the original intent of the term at all - the origin of the 'intelligence' part referred to AI and was fairly innocuous - but the community definitely became a bit weird about thinking it's somehow intellectually superior or something. Elitism undoubtably came into the fold.

I just think Rob and Sean think it's strange that their music is somehow considered more "elite" or "smart" than the music that they are heavily indebted to, which is Detroit techno, NY and Miami hip-hop, and OG acid house. The fact that those were born from predominately black music communities prob makes them feel the term is offensive. They aren't the only ones who feel this way, several dance/club historians have written about this subject - namely Simon Reynolds.

Race doesn't fall into it though. The stuff they've made in the past 10 years is far more complex than the stuff they were initially inspired by. Just because some people originated a genre doesn't necessarily mean their music is complex.

People should just call it A(bstract)DM or WeirDM or something.

Or just glitch

Maybe but that doesn't quite equal IDM's original definition. Glitch is probably highly appropriate for Autechre though.

Most of the 90's stuff originally called IDM was just ambient techno really, I dunno

Yeah that's true, IDM is a terrible genre name. When people ask for my taste I just say "electronica" which also sounds kind of pretentious but is the most broad while still being accurate I guess.

Right, but they were already being called "intelligent techno" and "IDM" when Incunabula, Amber, and Tri Rep were released and those weren't entirely far removed from the genres they were originally inspired by. Obviously after Confield it's an entirely new ballpark, but even albums like Quaristice are stylistically very influenced by acid and electro at points.

Mainly Rob and Sean feel that the classifications journos rely on are frivolous (they have almost as much indignation about the term 'electronica'). Their main issue about IDM wasn't even the race/class thing (though that is part of it), but the fact that they felt that it didn't even MEAN anything and that they hardly felt any relation to the artists they were often grouped with - esp in their later career.

Fair enough.

This is a really nice and short interview where they express their frustrations a little.

archive.org/details/PaulMorleysGuideToMusicalGenresGlitchAutechre

At ~2:00 mins in they go into the stifling effect of genre classification in music journalism, but unfortunately it's not super in depth.

there old stuff is complete garbage once you figure out the new stuff

"no"

Autechre is closer to noise than to IDM
it's sad what happened to that kind of break based ultra complex electronic music. It had some awesome artists specially some that had power electronics influence. I:gor, xanopticon, somatic responses, hynoskull, venetian snares, etc...

Autechre flirted with that but they always made their own thing. They branched out early on into something else completely and survived the death of the genre. Aphex twin did something similar going in the direction of pop music but I think his best was his earliest while Autechre is only getting better and better.

breakcore is for ADHD children.

Abstract techno is a good name.
Drill'n bass was also used for some artists. I never liked IDM but it covered a lot of little genres.

I think anybody can appreciated if they're high enough. Breakcore is like abstract techno but gabber based. I liked it as a teenager but I can't stand most of it anymore.

i don't think there's any mindset or even any plane of existence where i'd enjoy breakcore lol. thankfully ae never went down that path.

what does this expression convey?

yeah honestly i used to be rly big into breakcore and now the only artists i really go back to are xanopticon and terminal11. i don't even like vsnares that much anymore

idm is more my taste nowadays

hes so scary looking pls dont steal my wallet

I guess you also never had a punk, metal or even nu-metal phase. Real patricians are born patricians.

breakcore is garbage, mate. doesn't take a "patrician" to know it.

this is good
youtube.com/watch?v=ad7K9QVVweI
and this
youtube.com/watch?v=QiH_072r5tQ&index=3&list=PLB7bT_O589JkphpRK7h8jb8Gk3kVY5qc7

and you are fagget

wrong on all accounts

I consider it one of my guilty pleasures. Almost nobody likes it.

lol, ur only proving my point, lad.

shit's trash.

maybe you can't handle the harder shit

what about this one, you're gonna say you don't like it.
youtube.com/watch?v=C9yIGeBPnyE

Damn...

i don't keep up on breakcore releases anymore
if i need to scratch the breakcore itch, i'll listen to some stuff from the late 90s or early 2000's
liminal space is still one of the best albums out there imo

does age change their eye color too...

i'm p. sure they're both married and have kids

no i just don't want to listen to mallgoth jungle lol. like, i can't even conceive of enjoying something like that t bh

>you're gonna say you don't like it.
wow, you're so prophetic! do your thing m8. not for me.

what I don't get is why you equate it with bad taste. what other genres of music are inherently bad? I bet there's even some good nu-metal songs... you're just close minded snob.

>I bet there's even some good nu-metal songs
there's not lol were you even alive during the 90s

lol what? i never said anything about taste in an "objective" sense. for my taste it's garbage.

i'm not close-minded, i just know what i like and what i dislike. don't be so defensive.

I kind of wish ae made some angry breakcore that's somewhat also in the vein of their recent shit

well thankfully you're not rob or sean because that would most likely be really terrible...

Xanopticon sounds kind of what you're describing.

I'm just trying to understand your total rejection to a whole genre of music. Did you like Aphex Twin's druqks?
System of a down had some good songs.

>Did you like Aphex Twin's druqks?
no, not really. i prefer his techno stuff to his breaks material. besides, drill n bass is different from breakcore.

to me it sounds very dated - i hear breakcore and i hear 2002-2005. i mean, mate, i just don't like it. you talk about the subjectivity of taste yet somehow can't grasp the fact that i don't enjoy something.

Yeah kinda
be quiet faggot i liked their recent shit anyways

hmm, breakcore fans being defensive af seems to be a common trend.

I'm not a breakcore fan, don't psychoanalyze me boi

that's devastating as i was really hoping to investigate your psyche.

mentally masturbate somewhere else, preferably /lit/

what is ae's effay called?

is autechre not mental masturbation enough tbqh

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LADSSSSS

>ae
>/fa/
wew lad

Every Autechre track is a wonderful blessing, every Autechre track is great!

jeez this is pretty abstract even by their standards

I find your zeroing-in on genre names to understand things to be very sad.

youtube.com/watch?v=rEWeB6nvAGU

uh what, it's not helping me "understand things" - i have no idea what you're even going on about m8. druqks isn't breakcore therefore it was irrelevant to the conversation at hand. that's all i was saying.

i'm baffled by you seeming so upset that i don't share your enthusiasm about a certain type of music.