Lana>Grimes

Lana>Grimes
Lana>Marina
Lana>Lauren
Lana>Charli
Lana>Sky
Lana>Beyonce
Lana>Taylor Swift

come on, try to prove me wrong without mentioning their looks

oh wait, you can't

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I'd agree that uv is the best of them but that's about it

And I'm not that familiar with Beyonce or ts

The only issue with this list is that Lana Del Rey has literally no idea what the fuck shes doing.

Bjork>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any other female artist

Grouper >> wacky icelandic womyn

>Lana>Beyonce

>Lana
Not woke
Not a queen
Doesn't slay

But she's somehow better than Queen Bey? Delete yourself OP.

Angel Olsen > any other bitch

Well memed

I love Grouper, but she is objectively inferior to Bjork
Gross

youtu.be/zRAFNSgk1Ns

Honestly the only thing OP needs to see. I used to think she was really good over the past summer, but then i saw this and realized she has no fucking clue what shes doing. Her music sounds critical of the way young women act in relationships, but thats not what she was trying to do. She doesn't fucking know what shes trying to do.

It makes me kinda sad tbqh.

>cow tits

but user, that's why everyone loves her
oh, also for her pretty eyes and chin

even if she doesn't know what she's doing, her music is still good, so who cares?

on a side note, her speaking voice is fucking hillarious, i can't watch interviews of her without laughing haha

Snow tha Product > Lana

youtube.com/watch?v=JXtgCKhl2_Y

Yeah i can appreciate the sound for sure. Her arrogance was just kind of a let down yano.

stop shilling this shitty rapper, there are literally no good female rappers

grimes > all

t. cuck

Say what you will, user. The fact remains that there is only one musical artist (male or female) with such great star power that the mere mention of her name in a thread is enough to render any conversation up to that point irrelevant.

>interviews of her
gimme an example

>worshiping a talentless hack
lmao

Thanks for proving my point by diverting the topic of this thread back to Grimes.

Nah, I'm just saying that she will be irrelevant in 4 or 5 years.
She is only revered because of her aesthetics, she isn't a great composer/singer/producer, she was just hyped by the ((alternative)) media.

Accept it, she is derivative and mediocre as fuck.

>the mere mention of her name in a thread is enough to render any conversation up to that point irrelevant.
maybe because of cucks like you that made everyone hate her

I'm sorry but:
1) grimes is mediocre
2) is 100% right

>Further proving my point

lana is the best current pop star on the scene

UV>AKA>Honeymoon>BtD>Sirens>Paradise

Every Lana lyric reads like a damn mad libs book filled in by a horny aging housewife longing for her youth and wishing she could date Al Capone

>Nah, I'm just saying that she will be irrelevant in 4 or 5 years.

>come on, try to prove me wrong without mentioning their looks
Can I mention she's a created charter, doesn't write her own songs or is backed by her daddy's money?

you could, but you'd be factually incorrect and unable to provide a source outside of hipster runoff

>She is only revered because of her aesthetics, she isn't a great composer/singer/producer, she was just hyped by the ((alternative)) media.
hue hue hue hue! seriously, people value her aesthetics more than her music? how delusional could you be? aesthetics without a good foundation (good music) is nothing.

like it or not, she will be relevant for a long time. in fact her next album will be her own vespertine (yeah, yet another mastepiece) and the grimesposting will go on and on. deal wit it.

Elizabeth Fraser>Lana

i don't really see them as comparable artists aside from both being female?

>but you'd be factually incorrect
How so?
>unable to provide a source
Of course I can

This is from 2012 for all you know she's reformed herself and now know what she's doing.

youre unironically correct though

>aesthetics without a good foundation (good music) is nothing
explain how vaporwave is so famous then

>i can't watch interviews of her without laughing haha

Why there's nothing wrong with her normal voice.

There's an equal chance she has not

if you want the "created a character" thing to be a valid criticism first you must chastise every other artist whose used a stage name.
Lana has writing credits on every song on her albums and tends to write/produce in conjunction with 1 or two producers per album.

her dad is a property investor, not involved in the music industry, and has done very little to financially support her music career.

>Of course I can

>doesn't provide shit

that's still an external thing, her music is still better than any Sup Forums favorite's even if she doesn't write it herself

vaporwave is just a meme with no lasting power. just rehashed ideas and no artistic credibility. vaporwave is mostly a Sup Forums meme, in real world almost no one cares about it.

speaking of grimes, a lot of people care about her. starting with these artists: reddit.com/r/Grimes/comments/4q3o37/other_artists_that_like_grimes/

Explain the reasoning behind this rating.

>vaporwave is mostly a Sup Forums meme, in real world almost no one cares about it.

wrong. normies fucking love vaporwave memerap remixes

>if you want the "created a character" thing to be a valid criticism first you must chastise every other artist whose used a stage name.
No I mean the actual character as it relates to the theme of the music, not just the stage name
>Lana has writing credits
What songs where she is the sole songwriter, without the help of professional songwriters and producers?
>her dad is a property investor, not involved in the music industry, and has done very little to financially support her music career.
Prove it
>doesn't provide shit

>doesn't ask
>what is dishonest art

you're just making people hate grimes with posts like this

That doesn't prove anything, most artists have shit taste

UV has the best production and general songwriting in her post-breakthrough work, it's cohesive without being repetitive the same way BtD was and showcases her range without her feeling like she's straining her vocals with consistently lower notes.

AKA is very pure and I view it more as a Lizzy Grant work than lana del rey. AKA has her best lyricism and my favourite instrumentation especially on tracks like Mermaid Motel.

Honeymoon for me is the ~experimental~ album. I don't think it was perfectly executed, but tracks like God Knows I Tried, Religion and The Blackest Day really reminded me of some of her unreleased tracks (especially TOSTB) which are some of my favourite sounds.

I used to really like Born to Die, and I still do a lot. but I've come to realise it's just one of her weaker works. The demo versions of the tracks that have since leaked are infinitely better and listening to them you kind of realise how badly Emile Haynie fucked up the production. It's much too monotonous.

Sirens I guess might be controversial amongst lana fans, but i'm a sucker for very simple, sweet acoustic ballads. Pride is maybe one of her saddest songs.

Paradise I'm not a fan of because it's just a born to die b-sides EP. That being said, the choruses throughout it are really lovely and melodic.

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does this guy look like he knows anyone in the music industry? he's just a white dad.

you're just making people hate grimes. with posts like this

and

"The record also helped her secure the first permanent address of her young adult life. “Obviously, when you’re 20, you don’t have too much money, but when I signed my first deal, I got a check for $10,000,” says Del Rey. She used the cash to rent a trailer in the Manhattan Mobile Home Park in North Bergen, New Jersey, and commuted on the Hudson-Bergen line for her final year at Fordham. “There were a lot of families and residents who had been there for 35 years,” she says of the community. “I liked the time by myself. I liked decorating it with streamers--but only on the inside--fish tanks, little pink speakers with a jack for my iPod Touch. I wasn’t partying, I was really serious at the time, and I liked the diverse environments--going from the Bronx to New Jersey, and then recording with David on Gansevoort Street in the Meatpacking District. I loved taking cars from one place to another.”

Her label shelved the recording for a couple of years before releasing it on iTunes in 2010. Three months later, Del Rey met a lawyer named Ben Mawson, who, along with Ed Millett, would become her manager. Del Rey was their first client.

“When I met Ben and Ed, they helped me facilitate, but the tunes were a natural progression from where they began,” explains Del Rey. “Even the new videos, conceptually, are an extension of what I was exploring a while ago.” Mawson and Millett also helped her get out of her deal with 5 Points, where, she says, “nothing was happening.” Not too long after, she moved to London, where she crashed with Mawson for a few years."

>interview at aforementioned trailer park

youtube.com/watch?v=eZI5iaCyL6E

audio is pretty shit though

>The demo versions of the tracks

Pls post them

they're all on youtube, though some pretty badly pitched up or down
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoydF3QX065roazk116eNS_Xc9PHklbFO

if you're keen i'll upload the album to mega. only track we don't have a demo of is OTTR, but it's out there, it'll leak one day.

>does this guy look like he knows anyone in the music industry?
Well, him and his wife worked for Grey Group Marketing (wow, PR and marketing? Do you think she needs that in her career?), which was acquired by WPP plc, which does have assets in the music industry.

Nice try.
>but when I signed my first deal
...with contacts and money from her father.

those that hate her already hate her and those that don't care still don't care. stop pretending you don't know that.

thoughts on grimes' top 7 of 2012?

found an old masterpost link, here

dropbox.com/sh/hd6q5b87ppkz3ax/AABdHsw6P6Z1wpPqk2nq2E1Ua?dl=0

>Well, him and his wife worked for Grey Group Marketing (wow, PR and marketing? Do you think she needs that in her career?), which was acquired by WPP plc, which does have assets in the music industry.

source

Where have you looked?

i've directly and indirectly asked you for sources but you won't post shit. goddamn fuck off this thread.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Global_Group#

>Not being able to separate the artist from the fans
Only idiots hate people irrationally desu.

Some food for thought:
>I think people thought she [Lana Del Rey] was on an indie label, and it turned out she was on a major label, and they felt tricked. It was the authenticity thing.
grimes-claireboucher.tumblr.com/post/140857883740/grimes-the-happy-reader-winter-2015

She should probably breathe more often in the hopes oxygen may someday reach her brain.

lana del ray fucking sucks tho

>Not being nice to Grimes
Have a heart, user.

>>I think people thought she [Lana Del Rey] was on an indie label, and it turned out she was on a major label, and they felt tricked. It was the authenticity thing.
The problem is she is definite marketing herself towards the indie teen demographic, and the lack of transparency is what did her in

you're mean, user. you're not nice to grimes!

I posted this I'm no expert on LDR, but yeah - from what I HAVE seen/read imo you're probably right.

Yeah I was agreeing with you.

Then of course there was that whole essay written by her former producer that outted how fabricated she is

A few months ago my manager called me with an idea: He was in contact with a, mostly unknown, female vocalist who was looking to sharpen her sound. Up to that point, she had been signed to a small indie label and made music that was an interesting mix between old torch songs and something kinda of Portisheadish. That’s actually a terrible description but, regardless, it was actually pretty good.

Basically, the idea of bringing her and I together was for her to get a different type of production that may help her get wider appeal and give her “An Edge”. This idea struck me kind of funny because it’s not like I’m a particularly mass appeal kinda guy, I make sample heavy underground hip hop. A sub-genre that never has equated to ‘wider appeal’ but upon, checking her music out, I figured why not.

So, the day came and the plan was as such:
I would go to a studio and meet her, along with two other guys. The two other guys were engineers and musicians who also happened to own the studio we were using and it was their job to serve as middle men between the singer and I. Her voice, my beats, and them pretty much producing the track.

Thanks

Finally, the singer arrived, she was adorable. I think all three of us guys (who had never met her before) we all taken back. She was sweet and cute in a way that you would think anyone could make her a star. Since I’m an honest wifed up guy, my first thought when seeing her (which would normally be, ‘I would like to have sex with this person.’) was ‘This girl is insanely marketable.’ And, after I heard her sing, that thought only intensified.

These two engineer/musican guys were there to bring the pop feel to the table. As much as I didn’t like the music that came out of it, their musicianship could not be denied. They knew what they were doing and they executed it perfectly, I just wasn’t in on it. But, right then, I got it; this was the creation of pop music. I honestly had never given it much thought, it was taking something rough and shining it down to a dull glow. Finding a happy shmedium is key to making pop music; It has to be simple but not too simple, predictable but not too predictable, catchy is the most bland way possible, and, most of all, play towards the lowest common denominator.

In reality, the actual final product was not bad, it was just typical and it wouldn’t stand out. For as well as it was made and good as she could sing, it just seemed like it was coming off the assembly line. The bottom line is that the song was corny and no matter how good the ingredients are, if dinner tastes like shit, it tastes like shit.

In the 60's and 70's, we had people like the Beatles and Stevie Wonder on the pop charts; Ugly motherfuckers had a chance to make it in music simply based on the merit of their music. Now it’s pointless to even try to make it big in music unless you’re the total banal package and this all brings me back to this singer girl I worked with.
Talented. Beautiful. Marketable.

love her

As much as I don't like anyone on this list, at least everyone who isn't Lana Del Rey can dare to tip toe out of the tiny little box of ideas they've walled themselves in. Lana just sounds like a drunk bar skank who can't get over some hung stud muffin. I know Taylor is also on the list, but she's had some different topics.

>all the heretics in this thread
>2016
>not worshipping the true goddess of our universe
Plebs the whole lot of you

>Lana>Grimes
Nope
>Lana>Marina
just in looks
>Lana>Lauren
Nope
>Lana>Charli
Maybe.
>Lana>Sky
dont know enough about sky to say anything
>Lana>Beyonce
objectively true
>Lana>Taylor
Not really but i could see why you think that

Literally what

it's pretty shallow isn't it

Carly>Everyone

Lana < musicians that amount to more than popstar waifus

Alice Coltrane > Nico = Bjork

Lana del Taco

Yer Led Anal

think about it

> Lana>Grimes
stopped reading here

Yeah, she should've completely ignored all industry connections and worked her way to the top on the back of raw talent.

Give me a break. If you had connections you would use them instead of crippling yourself.

Taylor Swift's dad worked for Merrill Lynch. There are many artists that have coasted on parental wealth and connections.

It's the way of the world, and Lana shouldn't be villainized for it.

taylor swift was a hot piece of ass in the right place at the right time who happened to get a good manager. I can't imagine that her dad working for merrill lynch of all places or how much money they had had much if anything to do with it not they had particular wealth anyway.

The family then moved to a rented house in the suburban town of Wyomissing, Pennsylvania,[7] where she attended Wyomissing Area Junior/Senior High School.[8]

I'm not sure how much money they had rather than how dedicated they were to spending enough money to hire her first manager Dan Dymtrow. I'm sure he wasn't cheap but I doubt they had to be rich to do it.

Carly>beyonce>lana>charli>Taylor>grimes>marina>sky

most normie taste in this thread desu

carly's correct though

pretty sure she's an actual genius

Sweet Jesus I want to fuck this woman so bad. Unfortunately she's the ur-thot and must be destroyed.

>Lana > Grimes
>implying
is that a joke?
btw... FUCK THE MODS

Give me some essential Lana-core songs Sup Forums

listen to ultraviolence all the way through including the bonus tracks

its easily a top ten album of 2014

...

thanks user :)

my pleasure hope you like it half as much as I do

then after that listen to the song about her vagina tasting like pespi cola

then thats about it

her last album apparently has a bunch of codes about david bowie and glen frey dying but might as well wait for the book about it because that doesnt really make the music sound any better