How true is pic related?

How true is pic related?

I miss Antz so much

not true, albums are the only way to enjoy music because when done well they're unmatched by any other format of music consumption.

sorry.

Lol, rocktards

iktf

some albums are better judged as a whole and make more sense that way (nin fragile, concept albums in general etc)

some are not (anything by aphex twin)

this is a stupid debate and why are we still talking about rockists? fuck em

>I don't listen to R&B, funk, soul, techno, house, breaks, jungle, opera, traditional folk or any art music, ever

>R&B, funk, soul, techno, house, breaks, jungle, opera, traditional folk or any art music
All bad and gay. Please post some good music now.

FUCK YEAH ROCK \m/

eh, I'm pretty sure most people grow out of that by 25 or so, no need to make a big deal about it

*starts playing the opening riff from sandman*

Not listening to a full album is like only reading a single sentence from a book

>

But i do listen to R&B, funk, soul, techno, house, breaks, jungle, opera, traditional folk or any art music. When it's considered a song is considered it's own separate thing (i.e. having no correlation with an album, ep, compilation, ect.) it should be considered as such.

such a bad album, and yet somehow their second best
The album is the best way to take in music(obviously it's not the "one true" way or anything), but the only reason in that pic that is valid id concept albums, and that only applies to actual concept albums, not all albums. The real reason is for giving a new artist a shot, in which one can't just listen to two songs and make an opinion on whether they like them. They need to ingest a full project, to allow themselves to either immerse or not into the artist. Of course this also must allow for individual differences because most people just don't care enough about music to listen to it that deeply but for those that do, the album is the essential method

not great, but probably the best argument this thread has to offer. I think albums are the best way but I hate when people start crying about compilations or greatest hits albums

damn, it's impressive to have taste that's THIS shit.

Bravo

I wouldn't know at least half my favourite artists if not for compilations and singles.

>Don't bring Steven Wilson into this.
This

the problem is not complications and singles, the problem is exclusively listening to complications and singles like a pleb or a teenage girl.

who are you quoting?

cause you listen to bullshit genres where everything is single-based

electronic fags dont UNDERSTAND albums because their ADHD artists cant release more than 3 songs at a time

>dance music is the only non-album genre

all those genres are shit though.

epic dude \m/

I said exactly zero words that showed anything about my taste so congrats you played yourself and exposed you don't know what taste means
what are you meaning with this awful logic? Tangerine Dream has 3 song albums that are just three progressive 10-ish minute tracks. How does that make them less palatable or less of an album?

>tripfag can barely read the beginning of his own post

kek.

Albums represent a stage of a musician's life and experience. So yeah, they're sorta important.

10/10 bait made me reply.

>I only listen to rock

>being ignorant

>king crimson fan detected

>I only listen to rock

>mfw he doesn't listen to hip-hop

It's literally 2016!

Rock AND rap, damn you so eclectic

oh, I assumed you were referring to my second post because I figured nobody would actually defend Blink lmao. Let me revise: congrats, you played yourself by actually being a fan of one of the worst popular bands of the 90's. They made awful pop punk compared to the average pop punk, and that's one of the harshest statements I've ever made in regards to music honestly. Tom has one of the worst vocals of all time

This is a retarded argument because it completely depends on the artist. Some of them just release 2-3 good singles and fill the rest of the album with bullshit and some actually try to make the whole album around one theme or a story and try their best to make it all sound great. What a shit thread. Sage.

Single-driven culture is degrading the quality of music overall though. When all artists came about is writing one popular song, it forces them to conform with whatever will be consumed by the audience: 4/4 time signatures, anthem chorus, and simple lyrics.

Albums give artists the freedom to explore different soundscapes because they are given more time to do so.

why is Styx so based?

Thanks for confirming your terrible taste.

Filtered.

please do. I enjoy discussing music, but not about that horrible band. If you're dickriding them this hard it's safe to say you aren't very diverse in your taste

hola nu-male

Go back to your Fantano thread.

did you just call me a nu male for not liking Blink 182? You've got your memes mixed up friend, nu males love Blink

hip-hop is shit lol

pop and rock are dead and killed by this weird fusion of EDM and hip hop that tops all the charts consistently

I guess it makes sense that there two groups now radicalise when faced with the loss of their influence

there's no need to lie on the internet, buddy.

Hip Hop is for nu-males, Indie shit like Arctic Monkeys is for nu-males.

blink is for people with taste and aren't insecure about what they listen to.

This is objective. Stop trying to fight a losing battle desu. This is embarrassing for you.

This post is really making me think right now.

I haven't seen you defend their music at all. I have bands that are frowned upon by pretentious twats that I love too, I'm a huge avenged Sevenfold fan, so I feel where you are coming from even though you're being a total faggot about it. But most of Blink's fanbase is nostalgia-core hardcore liberals in their 20's now and their basically a staple for trannies, so no they definitely appeal to plenty of nu-males. Blink just makes really grating and simplistic pop punk that has little to no substance. Songs like Take Off Your Pants and Jacket are just cringe, while others, while others like All The Small Things are just bad cliche after bad cliche. I've heard all their albums and maybe been impressed with 4 songs through the whole thing. They make incredibly uninteresting music

Hey Alex does your last name start with G

Please die, all of you.

>Songs like Take Off Your Pants and Jacket

?

They've never made a song called take off your pants and jacket.

thanks for confirmed your ignorance about blink-182.

your opinion has been invalidated and trashed.

oh whoops I meant to say album, you know what the hell I meant tho

kek this is the most rockist shit ive ever heard

It does not, sorry.

it's a straw man, so I'll go for "untrue"

But you aren't contributing to "civilized discussion". Also, maybe I just haven't seen it but I don't think people react that blindly and positively to trip users. In fact it's often that situation reversed in my experience.

...

shitting on tripfags is a seminal part of Sup Forums culture.

filtered.

>implying that makes it justified or reasonable when done purely for having the trip
I don't do it for accountability though that is a damn good positive it has. There'd be a lot less shitposters if everyone had one. I do it to keep with anons on music recs across different threads. And the Actually Doing column is absurd because we aren't doing that at all. You're actually the one that basically said listen up, Blink 182 is objectively good and you disagree you're wrong, which makes you actually the douchebag

Youre a fucking loser dude stfu no one cares

bahahaha ya you lose this argument.

lmao

I'm not the dude arguing about blink.

Jesus, learn how to use Sup Forums.

Plus you seem to be against anonymity which begs the question of why you're even on this fucking website and not Reddit.

>There'd be a lot less shitposters if everyone had one

holy shit, go back to Reddít you fucking faggot.

Depends. But listening to discover playlists on spotify is such shit compared to finding a good album that matches with the rest of the album and flows consistently. I don't know how else you're supposed to consume music and not constantly listen to shit you don't want to hear.

I ssure as fuck don't

>nigger music and bleep bloops
>good

some albums were created with being listened to whole in mind and some were not. But I think when listening to an artist's discography it's important to listen to an album from start to finish if you want musical context.

I can't pretend there are certain albums that would be great if it weren't for some stinkers and I can't pretend I don't just skip em

In books of poetry this would be acceptable

That's an obsolete explanation for why albums are worth it. We don't live in a time period anymore where consuming music is so costly that we need to have a system like that to determine how good an artist is so we can invest more into the artist.

This isn't true at all though. The culture you speak of has been the mainstream pop song culture for decades. It has nothing to do with singles driven culture. In fact, if we are to look at say...a singles driven artist like the dubstep producer Kahn, his approach per singles release has been pretty different (ex. he did a Dancehall inspired dubstep release, a grime style release, and a reggae/dub style release all in the same year.)

Conventional album releases are pretty much obsolete now based on the initial more business/consumption idea of why albums exist. Where it makes the most sense is probably with concept albums at this point. DJ mixes, too if those count as albums because they tend to be the most musically smooth in terms of flow/transitions.

He still posts on Sup Forums every day. Who do you think started this thread?

what alternative do you propose? Just selecting 5 songs at random from their discography?

albums aren't like books

>The album is the best way to take in music
This is blatantly wrong, especially considering that most (read: almost all) of you lack the proper concentration to pay attention to an entire album start to finish without doing something like posting on Sup Forums or letting your focus wander.

This thread just got fun

Well I'm glad you said almost all because a large majority of the albums I listen to I legit just stare at my ceiling with my headphones on. Some music isn't meant to be listened to that way, but if it is that's usually what I'll do. Or just stare off into space while I walk to class keeping my attention on the music.

the drumming on this record is actually really good

Nope, it's whatever the artist personally feels is the best way to release their music. It's just that the typical album way of approaching music doesn't need to be mandatory anymore. Different people specialize in different ways of delivering music, there's not reason for something to determine how they SHOULD deliver it. Lil Ugly Mane releasing Evil Deed Blues as a single, Kendrick Lamar releasing his storytelling raps in albums, Death Grips releasing The Powers That B into two separate album releases that entail one larger double album, Autechre releasing a gargantuan four hour/five part monster of electronic music, Objekt recently releasing a mix entailing some artists' tracks they really liked which they remix and put together into one big work. There's so many different ways to consume, understand, and interact with music there's very little reason to necessarily keep it to a format which was born out of necessity and older business models for music consumption.

Please inform me of what special delights that I am missing out on by listening to "Millionspiel" instead of sitting through the entirety of "The Lost Tapes," or "God Only Knows" vis a vis "Pet Sounds," or even "Lemonade" instead of "The State Vs. Radric Davis" as a whole.

what the hell are you talking about? Ya of course you can listen to and purchase songs a single(Evil Deed Blues is a great song), and two of the examples you gave are still albums. The Elseq series is still just albums, The Powers That B is a double ALBUM, and that Objekt release is a compilation ALBUM. No offense but you're kind of proving me point. An album is literally just a collection of songs

all the other great songs on those albums. You're bonkers to think God Only Knows is the only good song on Pet Sounds, and anyway you wouldn't even know if it was unless you listened to the others, AKA the album

>You're bonkers to think God Only Knows is the only good song on Pet Sounds
It condenses the high points of the album (lush & atypical instrumentation, deceptively nuanced songwriting, gorgeous vocal harmonies, lyrical pornography for introverts) into a single track.

If I had to pick more, I'd throw the songs Wouldn't it be Nice and Pet Sounds into an EP and just have that. I have absolutely no reason to listen to the entire album when everything I want out of it is accomplished in those tracks. Now, if were talking about the SMiLE Sessions that would be different, because I've always identified it as a much more consistent and cohesive whole.

That's 1 in ~28 studio albums (possibly using old data) that I am compelled to listen to start-to-finish from my favorite band of all time.

just because a song accomplishes certain goals doesn't mean it's not worth listening to the rest, that makes no sense. There's still plenty of other songs on that album that sound much different even if they share some of the same elements. So how did you come to find that out with SMiLE Sessions? By listening to the whole album, I'm sure multiple times? My point in a nutshell.

I just don't really see your whole efficiency is key viewpoint when it comes to music. An album may be composed of a lot of similar songs, but they still all have outstanding differences that can pique your interests in various ways

Similarly, let's take a look at the album Pärson Sound. You could cut out the last two tracks on side one and the entirety of side two save for the first track and I would be completely happy with the end result.

For another perspective, we can observe The Olivia Tremor Control, namely their two most popular releases.

I wouldn't touch Black Foliage: Animation Music 1 because it's a rare example of an album which supports itself as a cohesive whole and is stronger _because_ of this fact instead of in spite of it. Music From the Unrealized Film Script, Dusk at Cubist Castle could have more than half of the material axed and I wouldn't bat an eye. I love the band, but I won't pretend that there isn't any point in consuming everything that they have released a s a whole.

>just because a song accomplishes certain goals doesn't mean it's not worth listening to the rest
Why would I waste my valuable time listening to something else just so I can reach another track that does it better ?

> By listening to the whole album, I'm sure multiple times?
I listened to the entire album once and was immediately struck with the realization. If I'm listening to an entire album the first time to get an overview of my favorites on the album, multiple listens of the _entire album_ are frequently unnecessary.

>isn't any point
*is any point

>There's still plenty of other songs on that album that sound much different
>much different
>different
(read: inferior)

Unless I am performing a formal analysis of the pieces or just refreshing my memory on how they sound there is literally (literally) no good reason for me to listen to them.

>I just don't really see your whole efficiency is key viewpoint when it comes to music.
Keep this up fella, you're doing God's work defending our style of life

My point was to represent music being released in different formats, and my examples of the Kendrick LP and Death Grips double LPs still being those were kind of the point (in that it isn't a format that needs to be thrown away.)

But the problem here comes in what you're defining as album vs what some of the other people here (me included) are defining as an album. Your definition of album entails all packaged music, including singles which often come with more than one track. Playlists, mixes, all of it entails that definition of an album (a selection of musical tracks.)

Me and quite a few others here are thinking of mainly the LP format here in terms of what "album" means as it's the format that's not only the one that was commonly bought at one point, but also often the metric used by places like Sup Forums, RYM, Sputnik, Pitchfork, Christgau, Pazz and Jop, etc. to determine musical quality. Which is the quite absurd way to approach music as the LP format has its origins in limitations of the vinyl and again, older business models for consumption when it comes to buying an artists' works. We don't need to adhere to the limitations of the LP anymore, nor do we need that reasoning of investing into artists based on just the artist and not their individual works in this day and age where music is so easily accessible.