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>18
>15
>14

We have the most aesthetic nr of grammatical cases

I don't even understand what a case is so it can't be very complex

>18
holy moly

That map is incorrect

what are grammatical cases? I need to know since I have 18 of them

Uralic """""""education""""""""

Some basic thing that Indo-European seem to think is complex

how come bulgarian lost all the cases other slavic languages have?
i think, suffixes like -re/-ra, -nal/-nel, -hoz/-höz, -ban/-ben and so on reflect cases in hungarian

>5
>aesthetic

what the fuck is a grammatical case someone pls enlighten me

Cases are the relations between the parts of speech in a sentence, for example nominative is the "driver" of the action in a sentence.

Istvan wants Transylvania.

Here, istvan is in the nominative.

Dubs with 5 confirm
Sorry m8

-e hali, -de hali vs. başka dillerde başka caseler de var.

Not that hard.
Is this split count plural and singular as separate.

Suffixes

tfw to smart too use less than 18 grammatical cases

>those dubs

tşk

We decided to use prepositions. Also the cases aren't entirely lost. They exist in pronouns and some dialects.

kek

pure slavic blood

Finland has 16, not 15.

The uralic peoples live in an astral plane where they have cases for every word in their language

what the fuck even is a "crammatical case"

I don't think there are any Indo-European languages that preserve all 8 PIE cases

Our languages just work in a different way that the negroid PIE gutterspeak

OP's true father is incorrect

fucking burger

gray = cucks

>bulunma de/da
>yönelme e/a
>ayrılma den/dan
>belirtme ı/i
Başka ne var amk? 6 yazıyor

cases themselves aren't hard

the shitton of exceptions they might be entangled with is.

Irish case system is fucked, teachers don't understand them, mess them up for pupils who then perpetuate mistakes if they even remember the language at all, can barely include us on this map

> youtube.com/watch?v=ikODMvw76j4

In addition to the subhuman tier indo-european cases, we have a grammatical case for each dimension of the M-theory

turkish can actually increase number of cases, with every speaker understanding it easily.
think of için for example. being agglutinative languages, it isn't surprising uralic languges can have so many cases. think of this in turkish, and you'll see what i mean:

seninçin, onunçün etc.
and there you have causative case.
yalın hali (nominative)
tamlayan (genitive)

WTF stop talking Turkish on my thread

Yalın ve onlardan başka yok yanlış yazmışlar

Map just proves that M*cedonia is in fact speaking Bulgarian :^)

We decided to modernize the language, there's also actually like 2 and a half cases still in use in some form.

some southern dialect of dutch have 2 or even 3

tamlayanda iyelik eki kullanılmıyor mu?

>tfw no qt faroese gf to teach me how cases work

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsez_language#Morphology
>his language doesn't have 64 cases
wew

I was always taught that we have 8 of them.

Can you not just look at Russian or Serbo-croat and see that they're basically the same in both languages?

bizde iyelik olarak işliyor genitive, ama genel olarak bir ismin bir başka isimle ilişkisini düzenleyen şeylere genitive deniyor. iyelik ekiyle oluşturuluyor olması case olmasına engel değil.

>his language doesnt have at least 14 cases
>non finnic "language"

i dont deal with subhuman languages

dank you for explaining familia. here have a meme

guess that's why Uralic is spoken just by some 30 million people and Indo-European by a few billion, even though they were neighbors

too much bother to learn it

This.
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> non-agglutinative "language"

>seninçin, onunçün etc.
Kek

But that's wrong you fucking idiot.
Uralic languages are thousands of years younger.
Indo-European was spoken from China to Poland before the first split among Uralic branches happened.

seninçin sounds like a name of a turkic khan who conquered china

>decided
When and how?

WTF I thought all Germanic languages except English have cases

>7
I will never understand why vocative is a thing

Also known as "Sijamuoto"

depends, the first split (usually between Samoyed and the rest) is usually dated to the first half of the 3rd millennium BC

I wouldn't call that "thousands of years" younger since apart from Anatolian, Indo-European likely spread around not that long before that

also, no need to be so serious about an obvious joke

>Finnish

jeee

some dutch dialects do still have cases

Standard dutch lost them around 1700 if i recall correctly.

wtf I hate "romance" languages now
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages#Case
>Latin had an extensive case system, where all nouns were declined in six cases (nominative, vocative, accusative, dative, genitive, and ablative) and two numbers.
>In all Romance languages, this system was drastically reduced. In most modern Romance languages, in fact, case is no longer marked at all on nouns, adjectives and determiners, and most forms are derived from the Latin accusative case. Much like English, however, case has survived somewhat better on pronouns.

But Indo-Dindus had already spread far and wide on the steppe even before Tocharian/Anatolian splits happened, meanwhile P-Uralic was perhaps restricted to some remote forest.

Uralic was at an enormous disadvantage initially but it overcame all odds to achieve a level of success no other language family competing against IE except Turkic came even close to.

>>his language doesnt have at least 14 case
neither does yours since agglutations are treated for the sake of making this chart as cases but they are not

northern sweden contains some scandianavian languages (not swedish) that use dative all the time but nobody is supposed to know

>albanians thinking their language is important

Case loss was a gradual and uneven process, where certain dialects lost and fused together cases faster than other. However, what probably sped up the process was that after liberation our politicians decided that the official literary language would be based on the North-Eastern dialects, which are much more analytic (almost no cases and many prepositions to replace them) than the rest.

wouldn't you use it to address people? it makes sense

Granted it's a bias since it's what I use on a daily basis but Slovene uses nominative and it makes sense

>But Indo-Dindus had already spread far and wide on the steppe even before Tocharian/Anatolian splits happened

what do you mean by far and wide, though? for example, Sredny Stog and Yamnaya didn't exactly cover the whole steppe

what do you think the language of Botai was?

No it's not like that.
If we would count all the different forms our words can have with agglutinations we would have hundreds if not thousands of cases.

You are bitter for speaking czczczczczsz language

>cases

>15
What do you mean? Karelia is Russian too you faggots! Make a new map or i will annex Binland RIGHT FUCKING NOW REEEEEEE

Little bits of words that get added on the end of other words in certain situations. For example in Serbian you'll have a name like Katarina which is ofcourse placed in the feminine category, a sort of form of sentence like 'I see Katarina'. This sentence falls under the accusative case so you'll have to add the suffix -u behind the name Katarina. So in Serbian you'll say

Ja vidim Katarinu.

In german however they don't change names or nouns but articles like der die and das. Der means 'the' in German, but is only used for male gendered words like 'mann'. The sentence 'I see the mann' is also in the accusative case in German. But you won't change the suffix of the word mann but the form of the word der. I see the man therefore becomes in German:

Ich sehe den mann.

Grammatical cases can be really hard to learn for foreigners especially if they come from a language that has long lost their grammatical cases or even their genderization of words like Dutch or English.
Grammatical cases do serve a purpose however. The use of suffixes like -u or changing articles like der to den can make sentences and their meanings alot clearer to the listener or the reader.

tfw your politicians ethnocide your culture

nom. and acc. are the same in my scandi tongue but vocative is different so I guess vocative makes more sense for us lol

and you're like a woman wearing a strap-on claiming she has a longer dick than me
know your place

>tfw your politicians ethnocide your culture

It's a good thing, you know. Unless they retardedly decide to use the inferior variant, like our politicians.

Who knows, Botai could be Burusho related for example.
Burusho by the way is a really beautiful language IMO.

Stog and Yam still occupy a very large area and were obviously at a much higher level of development in regards to warfare.
If Uralic was both inefficient and spoken by a backwards people it shouldn't exist.
If anything it's more efficient since that at least would explain the survival to present day.

I was just joking about the 'efficiency' anyway. it's obvious that special historical circumstances worked in each language's favor...or not

for example, Indo-Europeans had the opportunity to move to an already relatively depopulated Europe (population dropes noted during the late Neolithic, IEs might have brought the plague with them too). today Europe has a good amount of people which alone gives IE a boost over most language families etc.

>know your place
t a poor slavic shithole that is only european country that's whiteness people seriously doubt

>that is only european country that's whiteness people seriously doubt
Finland?

its not a secret that we arent entirely white

>tfw your politicians ethnocide your culture
That's mostly wrong. At the time, picking the North-Eastern dialects as the official form was a good idea, since the vast majority of the population lived where they was spoken and spoke them and said dialects also mostly agreed on grammar and pronunciation. However, there are some really stupid shit. Like how according to the Bulgarian Language Institute there are no cases in Bulgarian and they refer to the Vocative case (one of the few cases we've universally preserved) as a ''Vocative form''.

>most aesthetic
what is this meme?

uralic case systems are a lot simpler than indo european though since they are not inflected for number or gender. They are basically prepositions as suffixes.

>wanting to be white in the current year

where they were spoken*

>they think this is the most confusing part of it

oh lads, if only you knew
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonant_gradation

well it's not good when it's separate languages they are abolishing like in Sweden

about 0.1% of Swedes would understand what I said if I used my native scandi word for "eagle" or "bear"

thanks nationalism, what a great idea

Luck probably does play the biggest role.
Somewhere in an alternative reality Magyars won some key battle and half of Europe speaks Hungarian.

But all steppe people are violent as fuck and IE's are not an exception.

IE was definitely spread at least to some parts of Eurasia through genocide.

What other languages were there in Sweden?

whites are cucked, fingols mostly arent, fuck no I don't want to be white
pooland keep the way you are because I want to move there since you arent cucked

no tegelikult päris suurt osa käändeid ei kasutatagi väga

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_dialects
these can't all be the same language linguistically, can they? there's so many

To be fair, despite worshipping the shit out of Simon Mols HIV-dick last decade, Poles are less cucked than Finns.

We actually have an entire governmental institution dedicated to preserving and evolving our language

Keeps us from ending up like the Russians, who just transliterate every single loanword and call it a day, thereby polluting their language

Estonian will stand the test of time

But that's good.

Linguistic convergence is good for the world as a whole. But please let it happen with a good language that incorporates a vast grammar and vocabulary, so people can express themselves (eg. no english, it's a retarded, although simple, language).

Nothing wrong with dialect diversity