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can he not just direct the fucking thing?

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honestly they should just fire Zach Snyder

>DCucks recycling the same damage control

Remember when Terrio and Bin Al-Affliq were suppose to save BvS with script rewrites?

The funny thing is this thread will still get unironic BASED AFFLECKs by DCucks with the memory of goldfish

He didn't save BVS with his rewrites so I don't care.

They can't. His wife is exec producer and in charge of dc's films. The ride never ends.

>Sup Forums uses RT now

Good, we can now finally settle that Aliens > Alien

Ridley scott BTFO

>marvel fans

He never rewrote that.

Dance off bro

I have really high hopes for this. The two of them together should be able to retain Zack's vision and Ben can hopefully make it more accessible.

>grasping this hard

Who would ever want to retain Hack's vision? It's garbage.

Nah, I'm just glad Sup Forums has invaded so that finally Aliens-haters can be put into the contrarian circle, like those actually putting alien 3 above it

Sounds like they think Zack's a retard by having Ben shadow him. Doesn't look like WB's confident in him. Fucking hilarious

I respect your right to an opinion.

>Comparing a 1% difference to a 69% difference

Let's just say Snyder'a schlock doesn't fall in the margin of error

But then we wouldnt get our religious symbolism

They should have just left it alone and not tried to market it as a dumb blockbuster.

Alien is better

It's OK. I'm sure there will be plenty of other things in them for you to not understand.

>think
They know, everybody knows, even the capekino contrarians know. People pretended to not know and we got BvS. It's about time we admit we have a problem.

Why does Affleck look so drained in this pic?

All I want is a good JL movie.

Not according to the nu-Sup Forums rule

He's realizing his worst fears of being in yet another big name capecrash.

Honestly it doesn't seem like Zack has his heart in it. Having Ben Affleck and other producers breathing down your neck because your previous films weren't well received has to suck.

I can't really blame him. Corporate morons gave him carte blanche and then thought they could just cut it to pieces and dumbasses will hold him responsible for their bad decisions,

I'd have been fine with a smaller budget 4-hour epic that they weren't so eager to push out there as a blockbuster. They could have done that, but they were stupid.

exec plebs are the ones who made him sacrifice his kino by removing 30 minutes of footage.

>Revisionist DCucks

It was never marketed as a dumb blockbuster until after the first weekend where it was >29% but still making money. Then the suits were all "haha people don't really care about reviews they just want a fun weekend movie experience we make these for the fans :)"

Before that it was fartsmellery from all the cast and Snyder as "probably too smart for the average audience goer".

you literally cannot understand budgeting behind this stuff is literally an investment vehicle, they cannot go small.

>Honestly it doesn't seem like Zack has his heart in it.
I disagree. Watch this video on the making of the batmobile chase.
youtube.com/watch?v=jo9MbpMY9ng

Looks like Zack spends more of his time on Batman than he did for Superman (Superman scenes more cgi, Batman scenes less cgi) so he definitely did care about making Affleck look really excellent on the screen.

No, every add I saw for it hyped the fight. That's the essence of a dumb blockbuster.

What you're talking about came out mere weeks before release in the aftermath of an ad campaign that stretched back over at least 6 months.

If anyone guilty of having a selective memory, it's you.

I hope he keeps heart. I think I see what he's doing with the characters and I'm a fan of it,

>Already long and drawn out bad movie would have been improved by even more garbage plotlines and a longer run time

This is why you guys are shitposting on Sup Forums and not producing movies. Then again WB is so inept you guys might actually be able to do a better job.

What BvS needed was about half the bloat removed, not even more bloat added.

The most hilarious thing is a 2 and a half hour BATMAN VS SUPERMAN movie had about 7 minutes of actual Batman VS Supermaning, and it all took place in a grimy abandoned bathroom like it was a Taken movie.

Now on the DVD we'll get a 3 hour Batman VS Superman movie with still only 7 minutes of Batman VS Superman

me too. I love his vision of how he made Superman and Batman to be; dark with problems just like us.

I want to see this movie just to see what a executive meddle'd clusterfuck it is.

>pretending to be a tap

Tell that to Zod's snapped neck.

No Sup Forums does not use RT now. The avatarfag uses it for shitposting because he knows it is an invalid mechanism that other idiots think means something.

Ah, A thousand pardons. I was under the impression you were shitposting just like us.

Think I'll just completely disregard your opinion, if that's OK with you, I mean, I wouldn't want to offend you and your clear expertise or anything, so I just wanted to make sure I had your expert opinion on my opinion before I concluded the conversation,

That's just it. He cares more about Batman. They should have just given him the bat property because his superman is lackluster.

Yeah I'm on board with what he's doing with the characters, but how he's doing it from a filmaking perspective is what bothers me. BvS simply had too many short scenes and they jumped all over the place. He needed to cut some scenes and make the remaining ones longer to let everything sink in.

MoS was far from lackluster for me. I honestly think the focus on Batman was because this was originally intended to establish him more as a character before moving forward.

Clark's basically still dealing with something of an existential crisis in the background while Lex and Bruce are the prime movers.

heard wan was dropping out of the project

Don't think that's confirmed. I'm hoping it's just a nasty rumor.

debunked already. Wan posted on twitter

Glad to hear it.

So, you guys think they're going to try to make Kryptonians the catch-all explanation for metahumans?

Clark shouldn't be dealing with an existential crisis. He's in his 30s and lacks his own convictions. It comes off as a weak attempt at adding substance to a character when it's not followed through properly. Besides the character never being like this in the comics, it drags him down and doesn't provide a sound opportunity for the average viewer to empathize.

Contracts.

Get a trip already.

Wait for the 3 hour uncut version. Seriously it will sort all this stuff out.

The movie was originally 4 hours btw hence all those cuts you are saying is due to editors trying to make the film a theatrical pace.

this.

Fuck Sup Forums

>giving supes more depth than he had in the comics is a bad thing
this is why you're not in charge of capekino

Well, I look at it like this: holding down a job and playing the occasional "guardian angel" wouldn't merit an existential crisis, but being outed to the world as our first contact with an extraterrestrial would bring challenges all its own.

I think what we see of him in BvS is him processing his guilt from the Battle of Metropolis and trying to figure out how to dispel the cult-like worship that some people seem really ready to give him.

I honestly think he was contemplating pulling a fade right up until Lex forced his hand, and it wasn't until the very last moments of the Doomsday fight that he really committed to and re-affirmed himself to the role of hero.

>extrinsic protagonist
>DC meta-capekino

how can marvelfags compete? even more quips?

>lois's uncut tits

>implying mad DCucks wouldn't be showing off the RT score if it was good
Stay BTFO.

it's sad because i like zack snyder.

the world just isn't ready for kino

I'm baffled that people praise this film school-tier cinematography.

What can I say? I like his style.

I honestly don't think it will. Remember all of Jenna Malone's scenes were cut, and she's playing Barbara Gordon. That alone will probably make 1/3rd of the new footage.

>implying we're mad
Keep projecting.

Of course you are mad.
You spent like 1 month in damage control mode over BvS, and now the same about Civil War.

You know? Considering that she's Oracle, her scenes probably contain a ton of exposition.

And not one of those posts is mine. Learn to account for the possibility there's more than one person who doesn't agree with you, or how you present yourself on this board.

She could just be a character in the Gotham Police Department or something and maybe Clark meets her during the investigation scenes that are cut

WHERE ARE THE DAILIES SNYDER

There was literally nothing wrong with BvS's script.

Synder is responsible.

Last I heard he himself was pushing for a shorter more manageable running time. At any rate, the final product is a fucking mess. He does some great visuals a lot of the time, and I likes watchmen a lot, but BvS was a god damn that I wouldn't pay for.

I'm amazed it survived the cuts as intact as it did. The only plot element I've never been able to make complete sense of was the bullets.

Do you know how to read? The film doesn't give the character depth at all. Holy fuck.

Aesthetically, Snyder's movies perfectly capture the feel of comic books. Problem is, comics are shit.

Not all of them, but I understand where you're coming from.

That's all very nice but nowhere in the film does it confirm that's actually the case. He defended himself when Lois told him what people were saying about him after the incident in africa even going as far as saying it didn't matter what they thought.

> Affleck controls JL film
> Batman controls the JL

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I have to say this cast is cool as fuck.

That's true, but that's still ducking responsibility on his part. Fact of the matter is it very much does matter what they think when one of their own citizens is essentially a world superpower in his own right.

I have such high hopes.

I'm off to bed, but it's been a nice read and nice talking to you all.

Good night trips guy

Honestly it's sounding more and more like he kind of is. He's gonna Costner Justice League into something presentable.

The only fucking good parts of BvS are the solo batman shit with Alfred. Literally the only footage worth a goddamn in the movie is the shit that Ben rewrote and fixed.

>Creepily doxxing some spectrum disorder dude for liking a company that you don't like.
>DCucks.

Seriously m8 get fucked. You're goddamn cancer.

Punished Ben will save us.