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you have your entire life to find it out among the thousands of jazz records available
Their s/t is better.
Check out Wayne Shorter, Michael Brecker, Bill Evans, Hank Mobley, Lee Morgan, Herbie Hancock, Sam Rivers, and Sonny Rollins.
I enjoyed this. Iron Man is also pretty good.
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if you like out to lunch then try this.
Fuck bebop
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well, no. i get it, i dont like listening to it, but without dizzy teaching everyone how to cut changes and improvise on the harmony and not just play variations on the melody then jazz simply wouldnt be anyhting like it is. ornette coleman would have had no basis for his harmelodic system even though his solos are super melodic. plus the bebop musicians teaching everyone about harmony (dizzy was famous for teaching guys the theory required to play changes) then modern improvisation would be totally different and probably wouldnt have progessed much further.
Seconding this, but start with Black Fire and work your way to this one. 3 albums in total and they are all excellent.
i was thinking of posting black fire. i think even compulsion or andrew!!!!! might be more similar as far as the jagged time feel goes to out to lunch.
I haven't heard either of those albums yet. Yeah, Point of Departure is most similar to Out to Lunch of the three that I've heard.
ah man, youre in for a treat, check out compulsion, andrew!!!!, smokestack, judgement and pax. theyre all atleast 8 out of 10s no question. andrew hill is very underrated
i dont really listen to much jazz but this is one of my fav albums of all time
I've heard Judgment. Love the vibes on that one. Nice, I'm looking forward to getting to them next year when I can afford a computer with a larger hard drive. Nearly maxed out, unfortunately.
cool man, hope you like it. smoke stack and compulsion are really really great records! compulsion is a bit out there but in a super musical way.
Did someone say jazz?
Herbie Hancock. All of it.
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oh shit...ive never heard that but that line up looks soooooo good.
I take it you've heard Idle Moments by Green aswell. Its one of my favourites
so im looking this up everywhere and can find soooome stuff of this group but not much. any recommendations on where i can find this record? thanks
I know right, I stumbled upon this at the library some years ago and it struck me as well. thanfully there are two other recordings of this lineup, one made in Copenhagen and the other in Stuttgart
I'll upload my rip then
awesome! thanks man...both posts were me. as long as were sharing some stuff of don and bill with some baaad baaaad men that werent charlie and ornette, dig this.
Start with the holy triumvirate:
John Coltrane (Ascension onwards)
Albert Ayler
Pharaoh Sanders
Then move onto their congregation:
Don Cherry
Cecil Taylor
Eric Dolphy
Charles Mingus
John Carter
AACM
David Murray
Steve Coleman
John Tchicai
Alan Silva
Hamid Drake
Ornette Coleman
Milford Graves
Archie Shepp
Bill Dixon
Rashied Ali
Frank Lowe
Art Ensemble of Chicago
Marion Brown
Sam Rivers
Sunny Murray
Julius Hemphill
Billy Harper
Roscoe Mitchell
luca?
all early Lacy's recordings (Reflections being my favorite one) and the ones he did with Mal Waldron are absolutely essential
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thanks for the record man! i need to check out reflections but ive heard a lot of the stuff with mal. listening to steve made me think of this mal quintet record live at the vangaurd with charlie rouse, woody shaw, reggie workman, and ed blackwell. shits faaantastic.
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if anyone ever wanted to get a good quick education on some serious hardcore free jazz, this is your thread.
indeed. too bad there are only two tracks, I'm sure more were recorded but are still unissued...
also yeah, I'm not as much of a Shaw fanboy as before but his name still manages to convince me to buy or borrow albums
This cool jazz from my country (Poland)
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What's your opinion on jazz with vocals?
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In my opinion, this is one of the album on which free jazz is perfected. If you want to hear something fresh, listen to this album - you won't regret it.
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there are many jazz albums dealing with hindustani classical
Any more recommendations for interesting non western jazz albums?
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here's a great one with tunisian players (I believe the guy who made the tunisian national anthem is on it)
oh user there is such a wonderful world for you to discover.
first off just about anything Dolphy, as a leader of course but there are some serious gems where he was a sideman, especially his stuff with Mingus. but currently i've been all about Lee Morgan, this album and anything of the mid 60s era
also Ornette Coleman's quartet especially around 1960 (This is Our Music is essential) is my favorite band maybe ever but the spin-off of them with Dewey Redman filling in for Ornette released some great shit. Ed Blackwell, Don Cherry and Charlie Haden all masters.
Please continue. This is a great thread.
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Eric Doplhy actually recorded this guy's "Status-Seeking" in "Here and There".
Check The Quest, it's a good post-bop album
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Any recs based on my top 9?
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jean de fleur is catchy
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a love supreme if you still haven't heard it (because it's pretty much juju all over again)
or also africa/bass, alè coltrene
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try Otomo Yoshihide's New Jazz Orchestra - Out To Lunch, it will blow your mind
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A lot of it should be labelled as something else.
Reminder to check out the /blindfold/ thread tomorrow.
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This week's theme is non-US artists on the ECM label
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Can I get some recommendations on spiritually themed jazz?
I've already listened to the obvious stuff, Coltrane, Sanders, some fusion with Santana and Mclaughlin as well, etc. I'm looking for more stuff, I don't mind it being obscure.
Nat Birchall would probably float your boat
Sounds great, thank you.
The Pyramids were the masters of spiritual jazz
any legit punk jazz ? preferabbly stuff like this and not the silly japanese stuff like Midori .
Reccing this
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this is really underrated
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Leeway is also a really good Lee Morgan album
Freddie Roach - Brown Sugar
Dave Holland Quintet- Live at Birdland
>without dizzy teaching everyone how to cut changes and improvise on the harmony and not just play variations on the melody then jazz simply wouldnt be anyhting like it is
Diz and Bird expanded the language but the way you're presenting it here, sounds like you think there wasn't improvised solos based on changes before bebop.
That bit about a minute thirty into Air Raid where Tony lets the hi hat ring out for a few second but then snaps it shut simultaneously with a snare hit makes my heart skip.
ornette coleman - shape of jazz to come is the best jazz record of all times
there was but not the way its done today and it was, in general much more based on variations on the melody.
I think it's probably a more accurate to generalise developments in jazz as increasing complexity and adventurousness in harmony and rhythm but not necessarily as an abandoning of usage of prewritten melodies as the basis of improv. Soloing was and continued to be done both in terms of variations on composed themes and divorced from the themes of pieces long before and after bebop. You can look at later players from Armstrong to Coltrane and beyond and see both practices being done in regularity.
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The only jazz album I have (and probably ever will).
what is some music that sounds like the song 'blue in green'?
is there a musician that sounds like these 2 songs?
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I'll admit i haven't looked hard but nothing i've listened to has even come close to these two songs.
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Listen to the Brecker and Ogerman's Cityscape
i always thought Sup Forums was pure cancer until i found MU you guys are awesome, thanks for the recommendation, these guys are awesome!.
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