It seems to me like music now isn't as innovative or experimental as it was in previous eras. I'm not trying to be one of those "le wrong generation" people; there's plenty of 2010s music that I enjoy. I just think music has kind of reached a plateau in terms of innovation.
Just look at RYM's top albums of the 2010s. MBDTF, Blackstar, Carrie & Lowell, A Moon Shaped Pool, etc. Most of these albums are good in their own respect, but most of the stuff seen here has already been done before. None of these albums are really groundbreaking. There's a lot of Hip-Hop, Art Rock, Indie Rock, etc. These genres reached their creative peaks in past decades.
pretty much anything Colin Stetson has been involved with in the last couple years
Christian Walker
>literally the fucking most picture perfect image of a regressive trite one trick pony >groundbreaking
Landon Reyes
new Boris Merzbow
John Gomez
...
Jordan Scott
Literally not. Sorrow sounds basically nothing like his album with Sara last year and then there's her new album this year. Besides one trick pony isn't exactly the thread topic.
Bentley Reyes
Underrated.
Brody Johnson
would u eat a hotdog right now if i gav u one
Nolan Miller
...
Hudson Richardson
there is a lot of experimental stuff but a lot of it is frick
Ian Morgan
last year's Liturgy
Tyler Moore
who cares
Nathan Nelson
my albums pretty groundbreaking and original
Owen Adams
Death Grips The Knife - Shaking the Habitual The Avalanches - Wildflower Frank Ocean - Blonde TPaB Flying Lotus
All these listed above are popular releases that either transport their respective genres to new dimensional heights, or have enough uniqueness that time hasn't allowed it's influence to sector into new genres yet.
Gavin Fisher
I'd say all of oneohtrix point never's albums from the 2010's have gotten progressively more boundary pushing, with GoD being incredibly unique and distinctive.
Gabriel Martin
This was the last epic album
Cameron Roberts
he ain't no james ferraro though
Nicholas Hernandez
t. /p4k/ automaton none of those are "truly groundbreaking"
Gavin Jackson
Death Grips is a great example of boundary pushing, I just don't know how influential they are/will be. It's been about 4 years since Exmilitary and not many people are hopping on this noise rap thing. It's like clipping and that's it.
Levi Evans
i make good noise rap and nobody pays attention to me because zach hill isnt in my band
Brandon Brown
you can't be serious if you think hip hop peaked in previous decades, call me a memester or pleb but you can't deny that death grips or lil ugly mane aren't pushing the boundaries of the genre
Noah Moore
i was pretty groundbreaking
Aaron Johnson
yeah even meme ferraro is making interesting albums conceptually
Eli Morgan
Lmaoing at your life rn
Ryan Wright
Black Messiah by D'Angelo. His groove is groundbreaking in its own respect.
Brandon Rivera
St vincent in general is pretty unique.
Ive still yet to hear anything that resembles it. Short of loose stuff she got inspiration from (kate bush).
David Young
I'm taking the bait. name me one album that sounds similar to Shaking the Habitual, Wildflower or Blonde? Ya can't
El-P Lil Ugly Mane Danny Brown
All at least a bit influenced by Grips. I'd say more so than Clipping. Clipping doesn't have the abrasiveness that Death Grips has, and they definitely don't try to. Also A lot of independent noise-rappers take influence from Death Grips.
Michael Gutierrez
check out Kristine Leschper of the band Mothers. not quite the same as Annie Clark, but similar, and very good nonetheless
Bentley Bell
1997 with Daft Punk's "Homework". Literally changed electronic music forever. Huge fucking impact.
Jack Long
pic related is the last album that literally invented a new genre on its own
Nathaniel Allen
you guys make me sad
Dylan Sanders
how fucking dense are you, you're looking at RYM'S MORE POPULAR RELEASES, DID YOU EXPECT TO SEE MANFRED WERDER OR ROYKO AKAMA IN THE MOST POPULAR RELEASES??? it's like expecting fucking caviar in a mcdonalds, kill yourself
Jackson Martin
>Shaking the Habitual Royksopp, Silver Swans, Scissor Sisters
>Blonde King Krule, Beach House, James Blake Blonde takes the cake as least innovative album out of your shitty list. It's style is so commonplace since the beginning of this decade
James King
get to fuck, el-p has been pushing that sound since the mid 90s. go listen to funcrusher plus you pleb
Ryan Fisher
>King Krule, Beach House, James Blake lol
Oliver Gutierrez
>le dismissive memeing
tell me how Blonde is different from these
Eli Lee
If you really think Royksopp sounds like STH then you have embarrassing ears
Also Kid Koala and Basement Jaxx never dabbled in neo-psych and plunderphonics like the Avalanches. Please don't make a fool of yourself.
>Funcrusher Plus That is some pleb shit you neandrathal
Go listen to The Cold Vein, That's much much better than that Funcrusher bullshit
are examples of something pushing the genres they are in further, into weirder territory.
Jeremiah Hill
go listen to high water then come back and we can talk.
James Foster
The last truly original album made was Drums Not Dead by Liars in 2005 or 2006.
It's a shame that everything they have done since was trash. They seemed to have so much potential at the time.
Juan Ward
What songs on wildflower? All I heard were old songs with mediocre rapping over it.
Austin Rodriguez
If you really think Royksopp doesn't sound like STH then you have embarrassing ears
>Kid Koala and Basement Jaxx never dabbled in neo-psych and plunderphonics like the Avalanches >Kid Koala never dabbled in plunderphonics
Aaaand dropped. stick to p4k-core, you embarassing pleb
Gavin White
100% agree with both of these.
Aaron Harris
Also Aphex's ep last year?
Elijah Cox
Blonde is R&B that dabbles in various other genres including Ambient. It's closer to somebody like Marvin Gaye or Terry Callier, but produced by Eno. Yet you compare him to James Blake and King Ginger Krule.
What a damn shame this board can be
Nathaniel Mitchell
meh that felt more like classic aphex to me.
syro seemed like him taking all the elements of dumb stupid edm and turning them into the glorious fucked up perfect mess of an album
Angel Ross
how is syro groundbreaking in any way? it's basically a retrospective album
god you guys are fucking delusional
James Blake is an r&b singer that have dabbled with ambient and many others. he's literally worked with eno in his second album. are you retarded?
Adam Brown
underrated post i dont get why fags expect lowest common denominator art to be "groundbreaking" and "experimental" as if it could be and still hold mass apeal
Ryder Rivera
Kaleidoscope Lovers, Colours, Live A Lifetime Love, Living Underwater, Subways etc.
When does Royksopp use acoustic drum timbres and extensive ambient interludes? or 10 minute drum loops than build on the same repetition? C'mon dude
By the Way, I didn't say KK doesn't sample, he just can't touch the Avalanches. KK has never put out anything nearly as ambitious as Wildflower
Julian Evans
COCAINE IN YOUR BITCH BRAIN
Ian Brooks
>tfw Lil Peep is 19
What am I doing with my life
Charles Hughes
Their music is completely different. James seems to have nitched his role in alt. R&B. Blonde is somewhat of a singer-songwriter album that really goes in and out of different genres but stays based in old school R&B.
Xavier Collins
any of you elitists want to let me know if my work is groundbreaking, or at least on its way?
Blonde wasn't groundbreaking at all. It was a good album and nothing more.
Lucas Martinez
James is also a singer-songwriter. Hell, he even uses many of the same literary devices Ocean does. His albums also merge different styles: dubstep, soul, folk, the voice sampling inherited from Burial...His latest album is basically a bunch of lieder set to modern beats. Blonde isn't innovative at all. It's also no coincidence that Ocean and Blake have collabed, they're operating on a similar spectrum
Christopher Jones
How do you think El-P has been influenced by Death Grips? His last album came out the year after ex-military, giving the influence a small window, and I don't see any grips influence on any of the RTJ stuff
Christian Morales
Clipping kinda set noise rap back IMO.
The concept of "industrial+rap" (remember, we had noise rap decades before Death Grips) is something that NEEDS to be tempered with a sense of humor/fun or else it's just exasperatingly over-serious.
Look at Saul Williams, with Niggy Tardust. Sounds super-similar to DG and you can tell they took some inspiration from it even if it's uncool for them to say so. Both Saul and Ride are extremely emotive, and in the case of TIRALONT he was rapping/singing/reciting poetry over really colorful, dense, layered, and FUN production - just like Death Grips would do later. No two songs shared the same mood or subject matter.
Everyone else thinks that all you need is a deathly-serious guy rapping generic horrorcore crap over churning Silent Hill loops - i.e., simply noise+rap like the name implies. And it's so gray and dry it's a chore to listen to. Clipping sounded from day 1 like a quick attempt to hop on a lucrative gravy train - "hey guys, all we have to do is rap over KSSHHKSK noises and as long as it's a black dude doing it p4k will give us free publicity".
Chase Johnson
Blonde is one of the most unambitious & safe albums ive heard this year
Owen Rodriguez
>When does Royksopp use acoustic drum timbres and extensive ambient interludes? Most of their albums?
>or 10 minute drum loops than build on the same repetition? so this is the extent of their innovation? 10 minute drum loops?
>he just can't touch the Avalanches. KK has never put out anything nearly as ambitious as Wildflower that's just subjective and doesn't concern the question at hand: whether they're similar. and the answer is yes, they are
Gabriel King
Ideas are only as good as the quality, and the quality of Blonde is 10x that of Anything James released.
I'm done now, i admire you're trolling efforts though
Caleb Foster
quality is a matter of opinion. the similarity between their works is, on the other hand, something easily detectable. I'm not trolling, you've just conceded arguing by this point
Henry Morris
>Shaking the Habitual >Royksopp, Silver Swans, Scissor Sisters Holy shit theres no way you even listened to STH
Mason Young
Charli xcx - Trophy
Dylan Barnes
Even the instrumentation? It sounded like he was banging on pots and pans.
Kayden Hernandez
LMAO Frankenstans are hilarious.
Henry Russell
If everything is subjective then why are you attacking me based on what albums i think are innovative, if you're perception of innovativeness within music is different.
There is simply no definition.....of you're idiocy
Jace Carter
Have you even listened to James' s/t? I dont understand how any reasonable listener can say this...
Jordan Myers
lyrics on queer theory, class warfare, etc influences of ambient music, house, techno experimentation within genre tropes... it's all there. i bet you're the one who hasn't paid attention to Royksopp, Silver Swans or Scissor Sisters (or didn't care, since they aren't p4k-approved artists :^) )
where did I say everything is subjective? I've stated many instances where their artistry overlap. btw, i think Blonde is a good record, just not innovative at all
Sebastian Miller
[spoiler]whataboutvaporwave[/spoiler]
Cooper Flores
he was. computer controlled instruments.
are we talking about cheetah or afx or cci?
Aiden Richardson
piss on my shoes faggot brother sport is the fucking tops
Nathan Carter
Kreayshawn Lil Debbie
Evan Evans
I'd put Live Love ASAP and Danny Brown XXX but I agree with OP. Pretty thin selection.
Personally I didn't think Blond was very innovative musically but the entire structure of the album and the rollout were quite innovative.
I feel like that album pushed some limits as far as how people actually perceive the concept of an album and what they usually expect. The skits and interviews and short songs make it feel disjointed but it's still consistent in tone.
That bitch Jasmine broke my heart
Cameron Ross
This. Good albums are still being released, but the fags on this board stick to mainstream shit like Kanye West and David Bowie, and then whine that music is mediocre. >mfw Boris & Merzbow aren't even obscure
Colton Murphy
Gensho is weaboo trash
Asher Williams
yeah cci it was the one last year
cheetah was just a few months ago
I'm not sure what afx is
Hunter Peterson
yeah Kanye only based an entire album off their style of hip-hop
Nathaniel Carter
>conceptually This is why I like artists like OPN and Ferraro because their music is artistic and they, accurately, can be called artists as well as musicians. I feel like this is what prevents musicians from being innovative, experimental, long lasting or inspiring. People are more concentrated on making music that only SOUNDS good without exploring ideas, concepts, and meaning in the music they make, which can in turn develop a result that's beyond the original idea, but stop at a surface level of what they know to be music.
Not even memeing. The guy single-handedly made electronic music fashionable for American audiences and paved the way for really, really shitty music but was nonetheless the guy whose sound everyone wanted to emulate but couldn't quite get it right. He dropped off hard after 2009, exactly when EDM become fucking enormous.
Dylan Walker
True, sadly.
Michael Diaz
this is actually pretty good/not bad aoty for me.
Ayden Harris
I forget about them too much I need to listen to them some more
Jacob Allen
thx buy it for $1 pls
Colton Edwards
dont forget he also played minecraft with seananners
Blake Butler
don't beg, it's unattractive.
Oliver Anderson
he's literally begging for 50 cents though I'm not sure that even qualifies. I think $1 is just the minimum.
Easton Wood
Danny Brown broke ground with Atrocity Exhibition. And Tribes, however safe the sound was, solidified the sound that has been rarely appearing within the hip hop scene. Kendrick introduced the sound to a lot of newer fans, but Tribes utilised there own sound to solidify the fact that it will stay relevant within coming years.
The Flaming Lips have been breaking some new ground this decade with 7 Skies H3 and The Terror. But it seems like they're degenerating a bit with Oczy Mlody but I dunno let's see.
Angel Powell
Dude what the fuck are you on
None of these are remotely new or groundbreaking. Just stop.
Connor Collins
The Flips are good and 7 Skies H3 was unique, but they haven't been truly groundbreaking since TSB.
Fuck, literally nothing posted ITT is groundbreaking. It's all just generic p4kcore.
