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Stravinsky's long lost work edition
>Lost Stravinsky Funeral Song - World Premiere on Dec 2, 2016
>"Stravinsky's long-lost work, Funeral Song, will be broadcast live on medici.tv this Friday."

nytimes.com/2016/11/29/arts/second-ever-concert-of-stravinskys-lost-funeral-song-to-stream-free.html

medici.tv/?utm_source=fac...-chant-funebre

Maybe we could do a watchalong or something.

General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes recordings of music by Bach, Mozart and others.
mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces.
mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century.
mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix.
mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings.
mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks).
mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy. There is an accompanying chart, available on request.
mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic.
mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw

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Threadly reminder that Bach on piano > Bach on clavichord > shit > Bach on harpsichord.

nice meme

Bach on Pedal Harpsichord > all

youtube.com/watch?v=t4uZvhjQNi0

plebs go like "they invented something much better, with much more possibilities to put feeling and colour in the tone, but I'm gonna stick with the good old harpsichord because I'm too lazy in my head to find pleasure in something new"
fucking noobs

Bach would have played his music on the damn piano if he had one.

Reminder that Wagner is shit because all music is absolute music.

this is even better

youtube.com/watch?v=QTYxOEHQ0QQ

Bach while high on God > Bach on alcohol > Bach on weed

Wagner is still great then actually.

so what do you call music that isn't absolute if it isn't music?

>because all music is absolute music.
I mean, most people seem to just listen to the orchestral excerpts without knowing anything about the operas themselves, so I think he's still fine in that regard.

That person calls it shit.

Bach on Petzold > all

youtube.com/watch?v=2TobXjDXF0s

except that he was a sociopathic antisemite and plagiarist that stole from Liszt

Sociopathy doesn't actually exist. You mean to say that he was a psychopath.

Bach would have compsed his music for the damn piano if he had one.

>Sociopathy doesn't actually exist
[citation needed]

I don't know if I would call him a sociopath, but he certainly wasn't an antisemite in the way that we think of antisemites today (and antisemitic attitudes were extremely common in Europe in Wagner's time). He had a lot of Jewish friends, and even in his book where he criticizes Jews the most, he primarily wants them to have a radical assimilation into society.

And although he owed a lot of influence to Liszt (the influence goes both ways, btw) in terms of harmony, he owes a large amount of the rest of his style to French grand opera (Meyerbeer/Halevy)

Why do we have theads focused on Bach and Mozart but not Beethoven?

I disagree. I think he would have been a major Sup Forums poster. Richard Wagner would post Pepe memes on Sup Forums Sup Forums.

>he certainly wasn't an antisemite in the way that we think of antisemites today

“I hold the Jewish race to be the born enemy of pure humanity and everything noble in it.” - Richard Wagner

Yeah, I really wonder what he meant by this.

Any one knows where i can find it?

he actually foreshadows the holocaust. In "Das Judenthum in der Musik" he asks openly the politicians of the future to solve the problem permanently

>He had a lot of Jewish friends
Oh Jesus FUCK I mean FUCK OFF THE ELECTIONS WERE A MONTH AGO

I think a theoretical modern Wagner would probably be shitposting the most about Islam. Wagner was a hardline pacifist and one of his key issues with the Jews of his day were their fanaticism with their God, who he largely interpreted as a God of War.

He would've had a field-day with Islam.

That quote is from his Twilight years, and in those days he was suffering from a great deal of mental fatigue as he was constantly barraged by extreme migraines.

I don't think someone who honestly took that quote to its logical conclusion would have let Hermann Levi, a Jew, premiere Parsifal.

Rutracker, Soulseek, blogs, archive or [spoiler]Amazon[/spoiler]

fuck off

>you irl

>spoiler tags don't work
Damn but you can totally spoil music

That's where you need to start, but stopping there is a waste.

You forgot WCD.
Oh wait...

>implukomh there is anything wrong with antisemitism

The first conductor of Parsifal was Jewish.

Well I'm sorry for trying to help

name one thing you did today besides annoy me

Dumb anime poster pls go

Wagner takes issue with capitalism and the exploitation of workers while the fat cats prosper. He saw Jews as the fat cats and so attacked them when really he was just trying to address the social problems of industrialism

I wish anime poster would be b& 4ever. You know it's the same person every time.

nice revisionism you nazi faggot

I had a really good fap

Are you telling me he was a dirty commie? That's even worse.

americans are pathetic desu

No, Wagner was just a bit stupid and tried to appear a lot cleverer than he was (with things like philosophy, economics etc.) by spouting shit about things he didn't really understand and then refusing to back down or change his opinions.

The Jewish question is an example of this

If you read the perfect Wagnerite, Shaw suggests that Wagner intended for Siegfried to be something of a Bakunian figure, sweeping away hierarchies and dogmas.

And Wagner was involved in socialist circles when he lived in Dresden and had to flee because he got involved (in a minor role) in the May uprising in '49

>Wagner was just a bit stupid
kek here you dropped your dumb frog you pathetic piece of shit

he took care of the weapons (grenades) for a riot, I think this is really funny

Boulez proves that Debussy and Bartok were the real deal Modernist composers

No neoclassical, serialist, or degenerate bullshit

Just pure music, like Mozart or Bach

His Brahms opinion is stupid though

Mann and Adorno both call him a dilettante when it comes to basically anything that isn't music - and they're not too far wrong - and Nietzsche (in a different way) suggests something similar

I don't really care what Adorno has to say about anything, to be honest.

right because Adorno has never been accused of sensationalism

Name one good female composer.

Note: Bingen, Neuwirth, Seeger, Oliveros, Radigue, etc. are not good female composers.

Mann was the one who said it first desu, Adorno just riffed off it

Carreño
i like her string quartet

>taking philosophers opinions on music seriously

Giant faggots desu, they wish they could be like Wagner

There is exactly one.

>Seeger
>not good
Pleb. Also Saariaho

Alright, im gonna give wagner a spin for the first time. hope for the best

I understand this reference.

Seeger is the worst representative for female composers of all time. Didn't she take like a 20 year break cause it was too hard? Jesus, how pathetic does it get? Do you think Beethoven took a single day off in his life?

Saariaho is a meme.

>Do you think Beethoven took a single day off in his life?
he was deaf and he didn't even like music which is why he was angry all the time

Actually he was just insane.

so writing the libretti of all these operas was the work of a stupid man?

Great musical insight.

what´s better, the english or the french suites?

I have 5 invites.

Fuck off normie

I know you guys hate meme pieces but what's the best recording of Rite of Spring?

youtube.com/watch?v=dOYDkohmta8

pth/xanax mod pls go

Igor Markevitch

rip western art music

fuck off

stravinsky conducts stravinsky or boulez

Thanks John Cage

>Stravinsky or Boulez over Markevitch
No user, you fuck off.

>stravinsky conducts stravinsky
*Robert Craft

>Memekevitch vs a GOAT conductor or the composer himself

yeah, you're retarded

>vs a GOAT conductor
sounds like a goat, too

>GOAT conductor
>Boulez
>Stravinsky
>great conductor
>either over one of the most intense performances of the piece
What's it like having no taste?

>What's it like having no taste?
you tell me

damn...

>you tell me
What did he mean by this?

Stravinsky was a self-admitted mediocre conductor, and on the Columbia recordings Robert Craft was the one thoroughly preparing the orchestras. Stravinsky was old and tired and basically just went in there and waved a wand around while the orchestra played Craft's interpretation

It's still a perfectly fine recording, but Stravinsky's name was only put on there for marketing. If you listen to older recordings of him conducting the piece, it sounds quite different.

Honestly, though, being anal about which recording to choose for this meme piece is stupid. Tons of Rites are incredibly homogeneous with one another, and that's because everyone does a mostly pretty good job recording the piece. In my opinion you can pick any fucking recording and be satisfied.

>In my opinion you can pick any fucking recording and be satisfied.
this
stop arguing over nothing

How do you guys find good recordings to buy? Right now I'm just browsing spotify trying to find the best one.
Dvorak's 7th if anyone already knows.

I listen to them before buying htem.

>not having recording autism
I bet you don't tag your music either.

Kertesz is a good choice for Dvorak

I've never actually gone to /out/ but I wonder if they get annoyed about people from other boards telling them to go there

I think recording autism is valid with some compositions more than others. You can find a million different interpretations for a Beethoven Sonata, and a lot of them can sound quite different, but for some compositions like Rite a lot of them just sound the same to me.

how can a composer fuck up on the interprettation of his own piece? Doesn't make sense senpai

just because you're a composer doesn't mean you're a good performer.

I get that but how is interprettation "performance". Most of it is done in rehearsal and involves manipulating various dynamics to render a final product. One would think that the composer would have ultimate say on how the piece should sound.

>One would think that the composer would have ultimate say on how the piece should sound.
>trusting the composer
>ever

conveying intentions to an orchestra, (and an orchestra responding properly in kind) is one of the hardest things about conducting. it was a famously hard issue that Carlos Kleiber had, for example.

you can say, do X, Y, and Z, but the output can be different from your intended input. if you have no ear for intonation, dynamics, or you miss various flubs and mistakes (orchestra not being together, etc), then arguably this is a pretty big distortion of the intention.

in Bruckner's defense, he did tell conductors to just "do whatever lmao"

youtube.com/watch?v=9frKtO0nRn8

This is the tackiest thing I've ever heard in the classical repertoire.

What do you faggots think of Simeon Ten Holt's Canto Ostinato?

youtube.com/watch?v=f7yeIWne0iw

easy listening minimalist trash