POPTIMISTS BTFO
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God damn I hate this retard.
Ok, so what is pop-music's endgame?
in all seriousness, I really don't like how liking/defending mainstream corporate pop music is now a sign of being open-minded and/or progressive. corporate leftism is fucking sickening
nothing against pop in general, though
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what is corporate leftism
this but unironically
Beyonce
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like I said, defending shitty cynical corporate products as a form of left wing activism
like how beyonce is an icon for feminism and racial equality, when she serves mostly to make money for white men. and if you dare question people's unwavering love for her you're sexist and racist
Adorno tried to warn us.
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It's not hard or impressive to BTFO poptimists. Literally every other genre of music is better.
B R A I N W A S H E D
Beyonce is a corporation?
I'm just confused as to who these corporate leftists are. Like, is this some sort of political ideology, some organized conspiracy to make people buy Beyonce records?
ugh why do people have to politicise this shit
i like me some taylor swift cuz i'm a bit of a fuccboi and i enjoy catchy pop music
i certainly wouldn't try and defend her as some great feminist icon, and i also accept that a lot of her success probably isn't her own doing and it's highly questionable how much of her material she actually wrote regardless of the what the albums' writing credits say
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lmao he called out kanye for being talentless.
he's not a singer fag.
I don't think it's a complete conspiracy, it's definitely opportunistic though
it's just normal left wing ideology being co-opted by corporations to make them money. people consuming politics instead of acting it (e.g. I am a feminist if I buy a beyonce CD)
Isn't Taylor Swift one of the only mainstream artists to not pull for Hillary? I literally cannot think of any other one
and what I mean by the last point is that if you truly hated old white men and/or the power they have, you wouldn't actually buy a beyonce cd and attack people who criticize her. but apparently all that matters is that you look the part, and supporting beyonce is still "feminist" or whatever on a surface level
Yeah, that's definitely happening. I think that's just regular old marketing though. Corporate leftism just sounds like a made up thing like Cultural Marxism.
Beyoncé still serves as an icon of POC's empowerment regardless of whom she works with.
Source: POC
>people consuming politics instead of acting it
what is wrong with that
WOW! It's like he said what were all thinking!
Well, actually, I disagree with this point. This is like saying that if you purchase a feminist text published by a major publisher you are not a feminist, or buying a bikini kill album is wrong since their label is run by white ppl... or you can't be anti-capitalist and ever buy something in a capitalist society.
I mean, essentially if you're living by this logic you'll never support feminist art.
well yeah I literally just made it up on the spot because it sounded like a succinct way of making my point
that's kinda my point. she's just an icon. just something on the surface. and black people and women spend shitloads of money on beyonce shit, so who's really being empowered there in practice. vast majority of that money is going to sony
I can't watch the video rn but judging by you guys' comments does this mean that hating pop music is an alt-right thing now?
You could argue that by supporting a woman of colour, they are engaging in an ideological or cultural shift. I agree with you to an extent though, the music industry is hopelessly dominated by white men and Beyonce is perhaps not the best icon for change.
Nah, it's only an alt-right thing if you turn it into some conspiracy about le SJWs forcing you to like black music.
The youtuber in OP is a anti-feminist, however.
Why the fuck does he talk like that?
Had to stop watching because of the way he purposely says everything in that stupid mechanical voice, what a shit gimmick
you're right, I just don't like the centralization of things. where beyonce is "the" feminist icon, and you have to like her to be a real feminist. because to me that only serves someone else's best interests (which is the company behind her)
I definitely don't mean to say that people shouldn't buy anything by a major publisher or corporation, just that how aggressively protective they are of that order is kinda disturbing, especially while pushing radical politics
what's alt-right in this thread?
freddy mercury was so talented what happened to pop music guys we used to have freddy mercury now we have kanye west tf oh look one source says that it's getting dumber oh look science objective fact confirmed
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People keep linking me to this twat. Youtube is a fucking cesspool
Well, the problem is that the mainstream music industry is clearly only really pushing women who fit the criteria of being sufficiently sexualized for dudes. It's kind of difficult to have a "good" feminist icon in the current music climate. In many ways, an artist like Beyonce is the best you're going to get in the mainstream, but that might be a good first step to a more open and inclusive world for female musicians. Yeah, she's serving some rich ass white dudes needs to fill his pocket, but that's going to happen no matter what music is being pushed in the mainstream. I don't really even like Beyonce, to be honest. I have a lot of problems with her too, but contextually, she's better than what else is out there.
>different views trigger me
this is the same retard who argued that "modern art isn't art"
but my problem with that is that politics should go deeper than just what celebrities you like. a lot of people's engagement just stops at which pop star they identify with, and I see that a lot with this beyonce thing. and if you criticize that order you're a fedora or whatever buzzword they're using now. we saw that with turnout at the last election. media and culture industry dominated by left wing, but only the closeted right wing cares enough to actually get out and vote
I don't know, it just worries me that consuming celebrity and pop music, things which are inherently inhuman in that they exist solely to make money for a faceless corporation, are now an accepted form of activism.
these people don't agree with you or really care about you, they're just selling your ideas back to you to make a quick buck. I guess that's the difference between this and buying a feminist book from a major publisher
more people voted for hillary than trump. so no.
>tfw too intelligent for alt-righttube
Yeah I agree, but at the same time Trump is exactly the kinda celebrity as the pop stars that lefties identify with. Just in general the way we consume media is fucking terrible.
love that he's a proponent of consumer capitalism and shits on consumerist pop music.
the people have spoken you limey fuck. they don't like the smiths, they like edm. consumer sovereignty reigns supreme.
>love that he's a proponent of consumer capitalism and shits on consumerist pop music.
this so much
>more people voted for hillary than trump
but the numbers for trump were way higher than people expected, given that he "had no chance" hours before his victory
you're definitely oversimplifying if you think hillary winning the popular vote means things went as expected in terms of turnout, especially outside of california and new york
true, this election cycle was like watching wwe. and again it's the faceless corporation thing. I don't believe all those left wing mainstream media outlets really hated or feared trump, they just loved the opportunity he gave them to make sensationalist articles that generate a shitload of money. same with the pop stars, they don't give a fuck they just want your money. we need more grassroots media and culture really
>the people have spoken
lmao
Consuming different kinds of music has never been easier. Creating and distributing music has never been easier.
The fuck is this slick faggot even talking about.
>Consuming different kinds of music has never been easier. Creating and distributing music has never been easier.
And yet actual listening habits do not reflect this. Tyranny of choice
It's almost like having a YouTube channel makes any random person think their opinion is worth shit.
i havnt watched alex jones since my retarded conspiracy theory phase in 2010, but i seem to recall this guy's favorite band being Muse, meaning his opinion on music is worthless
what about kpoptimism
this was so annoying i couldn't get through this
>but only the closeted right wing cares enough to actually get out and vote
that was your assertion and its not true.
if you take it to literally mean that no one on the left voted, sure, but there's no need to be that disingenuous user
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I'm not sure what your point is. My point is that technological advances have made the consumption and production of art more democratic than ever.
I'm not sure that people listening to the 'same' music is a problem. And I'm not sure its more prevalent now then it was back in the tin pan alley days, or before recorded music. And no one has shown any data , but they just bitch about EDM.
i'm not being disingenuous. i'm just asserting that plenty of people cared. so many in fact, that hillary won the popular vote. if you can't craft your narrative around that fact, i dont know what to tell you.
I'm going absolutely full autismo in the comment section because this cunt legitimately triggers me.
>i'm just asserting that plenty of people cared
of course, just not as many as expected
is this dude literally retarded?
steve albini?
i think it goes hand in hand with promoting piracy, that even though of course it doesn't make you completely irresponsible for the proliferation of capitalist pop icons it creates a certain disconnect between the money and the enjoyment of the music
so there's this line of thought that you dont have to pretend to like inaccessible garbage just to stick it to the man because it's completely unmarketable (for good reason), you don't have to alienate yourself from your peers either, and the musical underground has pused this "we're real man, they're fake" narrative for so long it's franky sickening, i completely understand why you'd turn to pop music after hanging around this sort of elitism for too long
Just because you don't understand things doesn't mean they're "made up." Please remove your head from your ass.
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He isn't alt right tho
I just like me just a little bit of pop music every now and then, man. I don't give a fuck about politics.
his audience isn't particularly intelligent
same reason milo has to throw in a trigger warning joke every two minutes, alex jones has to pretend every little thing is an ELE etc
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this is a cringe thread now
Paul Joseph Watson has never made a girl cum. You heard it here first.
>now
did you miss the content of the op video
The study hes talking about
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it always was
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Why'd he have to bring up Moz? Jeez get him away from The Smiths and leave him to his buttrock
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>I was born in le wrong generation!!!
>xD DAE think all modern music sucks??! There aren't good bands like Led Zeppelin and Queen anymore!!
Holy fuck I cannot stand faggots who legitimately think this. Excellent music is still being made, you are just too retarded to actually look for it and find it. Hilariously he cites the Smiths, but while they were releasing music in the 80s there was a huge amount of pop drivel on mainstream radio. The Smiths were underground. He only knows about them because of their elevated status in the public eye due to hindsight. Just this year Nick Cave's the Skeleton Tree contained some of the best lyrics I have ever heard on a record, ever. Bar none. But of course he doesn't know about that. Guaranteed that in 20 years kids will be saying the same thing, "music sucks now! does anyone wish they still made good music like Animal Collective or Death Grips??!"
Basically people who literally know basically nothing about the state of modern music should restrain themselves from commenting on the state of modern music.
Agreed man.
Its just annoying to listen to
"pop Music Is.. All.. THE... SaMe.."
"if you look at the Top.. Bill..Board... LISTS... "
Why the fuck does he enunciate everything like that? This has to be some of the worst script delivery I've seen on youtube
>IT'S AN OBJECTIVELY PROVABLE FAHCT
stopped watching there.
absolutely the most insufferable, fucking annoying youtuber of all time. fuck him and his fucking accent
2 be honest POC to black people only means black people lol
no, retarded views trigger me
Paul Joseph Watson is a confirmed pleb who listens to Clint Mansell soundtracks on repeat, looking
for ominous background music to his chappy conspiracy theories
>The Smiths were underground.
the smiths had numerous top ten singles; after hand in glove, all of their subsequent releases except one charted within the uk top thirty. not to mention a #1 album with meat is murder
alright, r/listentothis finally weighed in
let's call it a day fellas
>tfw watching people who comment that they are too intelligent when they are clearly not
he knows his audience is retarded so he has to speak slowly
>muh lyricism
>the voice is the only criteria for talent
is he actually retarded? pop has fantastic, catchy melodies set to accessible lyrics. which has been happening since radio was invented.
he'd be saying the same shit about this in the 50s: youtube.com
>cites Morrissey and Marr while ignoring the vapid synthpop that came from the same era
>says that he understands that there have always been shit pop songs, but continues to act like the smiths topped the charts and that there are no good modern acts
i just don't understand
lol he unironically has a map behind him
Paul the Reptilian does it again.