>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors (wink, wink, WINK) mu-sic-production.wikia.com There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.
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The moment you open ableton/fl studio you're already making cuck music
Angel Mitchell
Just spent literally 10 hours straight on a beat that ended up sounding like any other shitty beat I'd usually make in an hour. I'm going to sleep.
Please subscribe to my blog thank you.
Landon Collins
trying to song structure. any feedback would be more than appreciated clyp.it/zioj3hpm
Gabriel Moore
Do you even sequence brah
Luis Morales
Just look up some older video game + soundfount.
Brandon Price
I just spent two hours trying to play a 1-minute 6-note guitar track because I kept messing up even though I've played it 1000 times before just fine. I must be really shitty since every other guitarist in the universe can play a full song with no errors and have it sound great
Jordan Diaz
Same thing happens to me a lot t b h. I'll rehearse a song perfectly but when I hit the record button I get sloppy.
Jordan Hughes
I like the backwards sample used as a perc.
Reminds me less of Diplo and more of a small horse galloping frantically in place on one of those giant floor pianos a la Tom Hanks in the 1988 hit fantasy comedy film, "Big;" a Japanese woman calls out rhythmic direction to said horse and keeps time, albeit poorly, by woodworking. The horse dies at the end.
All of this takes place in a decomissioned airplane hanger, naturally.
Elijah Ortiz
looking for a good keyboard for composing, im normally a Singer/Guitarist. Will say a cheaper william legato electric keyboard let me plug in to a computer and record MIDI in a DAW and notate music with MIDI notation software? If not I'll get a smaller controller but I want that standalone 88 keys...
I'll take it as a compliment~ Thank you. And saying it sounded like diplo was in reference to this youtube.com/watch?v=yet2Q0M32GQ
Justin Rogers
this is good but if you read it doesnt come with a power adapter so if you dont get that Williams ESS1 Essentials Pack you need to buy batteries
William Wright
>Williams ESS1 Essentials Pack not a problem, but will it let me do all that I said in the original post?
Matthew Lee
yes on the page it says it has midi and usb connectivity so you can use it with your software
Xavier Hall
Is there some sort of magical guide to explain basic synth terms like oscillators and envelopes and how they are useful to a person who is living proof darwinism is a hoax?
Ethan Martin
Can I get a harsh critique I just want to improve.
haha I'm cool now let's be nice together and make no mistakes :) be nice :)
Parker Reed
>day 30 >still no guides for Cakewalk Sonar I'm about to give up and move to memeloops
Camden Nelson
If you don't have a background in piano or keys you probably don't need an 88. Don't spend extra getting something you can't make use of. Just get a controller.
I'm actually interested in production with Linux since Ardour is perfectly usable. But I'm concerned about audio interface compatibility. Anyone have experience with this?
That piano needs tuned. Other than that, The drum sequencing and hi-hats and shit sound cozy as fuck. Although I came here for advice too. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing either
Benjamin Peterson
Anybody know of a good (preferably free) vocal doubler/widener? I tried using the Imager from iZotope but ALL it does is it make it wide. I want a doubling effect as well.
Gavin Allen
>clyp.it/e2vnhsuh Piano out of tune, bass distorting, boring 4 bar loop, etc.
Dominic Green
clyp.it/maebukop I've been using ableton for the last 6 years. I use Pro Tools for work but it's not my favorite. Demo is Ableton.
Kayden Butler
clyp.it/3b1thj1v heres a song i posted a couple days ago and people seemed to think had some potential so ive been working on it more. i added a bit more melody/chords to the end of it, started deleting parts that sucked, and did about 40 sec of rough drum programming for it (the rest is just that looped). how do you think the bit of drums sound? im not good good at drum programming and sound design stuff so im not sure the direction im taking it is worth continuing or if i should think of something else to do.
Christian Howard
>clyp.it/3b1thj1v its ok, experimental. I mean anything i would say is to make it more "consumable by everyone", like try to make some changes in the dynamics, a structure, i dont like the percs, try adding some reverb and trying to push them a little back in the mix so that clip doesnt sound so pierceing
yeah the structure so far is just how i composed it - copying a loop and pasting it, changing it, moving on. the only revision i have done so far is deleting parts where the changes werent too major or werent that good sounding.
added a bit more melody and chords to maybe give it a bit more of a conclusion to the song clyp.it/nezcw24g though i really need to be studying for the final i have in a few hours instead haha. do you think mixing in some typical break drum samples between the shitty glitched out kit im using and the found sound glitch drums ive got going for the 45 sec i did would make it sound better? id also like to try adding in some anime vocal samples because im a weeb and want it to be lolicore instead of just gay idm tho im not sure how that would go haha. i need to follow more tutorials on mixing and mastering to work on those aspects i dont really know how to do it. thanks for your advice by the way i really appreciate it.
Elijah Price
i dunno how id really go about making it a more traditional song structure. whenever i try to do that it never sounds natural, i tend to be very picky about every transition sounding totally natural and if i dont fine tune everything it tends to not sound natural and the traditional song structures are based off blocky chunks and that doesnt sound natural to me much. also i like to have something change every loop and to not really go back in the song otherwise it would be boring to listen to, though i could try making parts of the song a chorus perhaps? its already so damn long though so i dunno.
Robert Smith
thats why i said its ok, its experimental. I dont enjoy makeing song structures, but its the best way for other people to understand your music sometimes, getting it into some EDM or pop or rock music strucutre. but stil, ART, so do whatever u feel like
Start with some good nice punchy drums, find some nice samples, sample selection is the most important step, then some EQing and some parallel compression maybe to get them crunchy or regular compression and don't forget to set up busses.
Then move to the bass section, you'll probably wanna either layer the bottom (sub but not necessarily) bass sound and the top one or if you're not going for something too bass heavy or the drums are doing most of the work like an 808 just cut everything below 80Hz on your bass with a pretty steep cut.
Overall you want your drums and bass to be the strongest elements of your track.
Everything else, arps, chords, leads, foley etc. you need to make sure they don't interact with anything down in the 100Hz range and also some sidechaining to the drums (mostly kick but snare too depending on what you do) also goes a long way to make the drums pop out.
But it really depends a lot on what kind of sounds you're using, that's the most important aspect. Having good samples and good sounds (and sound design), everything else mixing-wise is secondary. Like the saying goes, no matter how much you eq a shit kick drum, it'll still be a shit kick drum at the end of the day.
Hope that helps a bit.
Mason Hernandez
Digging the sweeping hats. It's a cool atmosphere, but IMO it needs some central element to focus on other than the drums. Some sort of lead melody.
thanks for the feedback. And you're completely right. Having a central melody is the hardest thing for me when making beats. I just make a shitton of different melodies and layer and never stick to one. I always end up changing it lol
Thomas Hill
kek yeah, i tend to be the type of person who only makes music because its fun and i havent ever really made a track to try to get people to like it yet though i think i would like to start trying. i have a lot of fun making melody and chords and weird sounds so my music has a lot of that and not much else like good production and songwriting techniques (as i find them boring i never have learned them properly)
Cameron Myers
try adding one with a different synth more dry like your bass so it stands out in the mix, and make sure to give it its own space on the frequency domain perhaps.
Brayden Taylor
Cool, are you talking about in general or specifically in relation to the track?
Andrew Morgan
Thanks. I'll give it a go and see what I think.
Cameron King
ok, thanks for the tips
Alexander Taylor
yeah i think the problem with the whole layered thing in the background is that its totally muddied together which makes it nice for the background but makes not very standout.make sure to make what you add not muddied in there too with the rest of it.
Gabriel Ward
>clyp.it/s2r2hu35 maybe with the arps at 6 minutes try to add a melody or something that makes you go `aww fuck this is amazing`. cause when i was younger and used to like that genre thats what it was all about, the buildup and then bam some great arps and melody or something. also cut down on the length a bit the amount of material in it, i glossed over it in about a minute and it seems like i got about everything there is to the piece which isnt a good sign. i know that the genre is quite repetative but it has to be exciting too not just repetitive as it is dance music.
Okay so I'm having a slight problem. It's makes shit WAY too wide and no matter how I try to make it not as wide, it just gets warbly like there's phasing issues. Any way around this?
Josiah Brown
Ignore that. I figured it out.
Cameron Brown
This is terrible but I'm happy with it. I'll probably never make anything great, I have to start and finish a track in one sitting or else it will just sit there forever. clyp.it/mi1upz0e
Owen James
>clyp.it/s2r2hu35 this screams "newbie /prod/er" honestly you're at the point where I don't know if feedback can do much good since you're just experimenting and everything is sorta random. keep working at it tho and soon you'll be making some entry level things that sound ok. Don't mean to be rude but it's what it is.
I listened to the track and the advice can be both general but also apply to the track. the bottom section (drums and bass) aren't as "fat" as I'd like them to be and the top section is sort of drowning it as well, that's why I suggested some sidechain and EQing. your volume levels seem mostly fine but I find myself always fiddling with them.
Alright that's good, however I think the instruments are drowning the drums, try focusing a bit more on the kick and snaps. that guitar/pad thingy is a bit too muffled for my taste and you could bring the vocal a bit forward but overall I like this, it's not bad.
This is good, you most certainly will get better and have a future. again as with every other clyp I've listened, your drums arent getting through enough, try bringing down the pads and focus on your drums/bass. Also sidechain the bass to your kick and everything else a bit so you get the drums a bit more pumping. I like it as a composition a lot tho, sounds you're using are also cool, it's just the mix that's not too good.
Jason Cooper
Alright, yeah i do need to do some volume level adjustment. Need to get all the background sorted out and in its place.
Ryan Peterson
The bass is sidechained to the kick. I should probably do the same with the pads.
Jason Foster
I've always had this desire to be a "joke" producer (picking a random genre and just making stuff as cookie cutter and cliche as possible, yet somehow always failing) but I think I've finally reached that goal. Trap. I'm actually good at making bad, cliche shit. I even found a girl to record one of those stupid fucking vocal tags in the beginning of every song on the radio and came up with an absurd tumblr producer name.
what you should do to it is add something really fucking weird in there and make it a total meme song, to make it funny instead of just generic. like a really fucking weird sample of a meme or something. because youve done a good job making something generic sounding but i bet if you added something funny in it it would be actually very good.
Carter Barnes
cause joke producers do something like what youve done but then make it funny. youve done a good job with everything but making it funny. you could also do a ridiculous terrible rap over it or something like that.
Grayson Williams
keep up good vocals
soon 3 soon
three cups of three
Asher Nguyen
>clyp.it/igubtsup this is pretty cool, honestly I don't think you take this solely as a meme because this sounds like some serious work.
Easton Jenkins
My friends recorded a freestyle to it on one of their phones so I just took that audio and added it to the beat (hence why it sounds like shit). They're supposed to come over soon and record for real. Meme verses, that is.
>clyp.it/ms00reho senpai, mix the vocals on this and you got yourself a hit right there.
It's not that bad but I don't like that kick drum too much and the bass, might need to get a different kick drum sample and re-adjust your volume levels, the ambience and all that is great tho.
Lincoln Harris
>mix the vocals Once you hear the source material, you'll see why they're not mixed. The audio was ripped from a phone. They're gonna come record them for real pretty soon. THEN it'll be a hit. >clyp.it/u1esqtp0
>you could also do a ridiculous terrible rap over it or something like that. I tried that once. I realized I can't rap. Not even in a meme way. >clyp.it/rbny1bw0
Austin Edwards
fuck im so tired. still gotta finish this shit
what yall are exhaling during the long hours, i got coffee and smokes goingo n atm
Angel Lee
ayy lmao when will I be good enough to extort twelve year olds that want to make shitty trap music.
Cocaine and meme trap. I need a cigarette but my throat is so dry.
I was gonna say "probably never" but then the vocal chop and scratches came in. Bretty good mate.
Dominic Powell
van i get just honest opinion on this shit i played live before making any new beats, i need to know what i´m doing wrong/right >some fucking dance genre, i dont know, wanted it to be like Prodigy´s stuff
Thanks lad, its just a side hussle I don't really take it serious.
It's basically how I buy vidya.
Jaxson Gomez
ah i remember you sounds good what did you use on the synth lines
Isaac Morris
Anyone heard of this weird mixing technique where you slide all sliders to bottom and rise them after each other and just accept as much of the range as you wish? whoa very secret studio mixing techniques... haha weed is best :) life is good stay clean and nice
Sebastian Collins
Yes... That's the correct way to do it.
Man, what the hell? Some of my songs have been used in YouTube videos with like 500k views and I haven't seen a penny.
Nathan Anderson
I would've walked out of wherever shithole you were playing and shitted in your volkswagen van you call your tourbus you piece of shit cunt.
Solid track.
Jack Perez
Pretty sure you can talk to youtube about that.
Also, I sell to people directly (leasing) at low prices. You can sell the same beat to 10 people if you lease. Keep the price under 20 bucks and people will buy. I sell rights to exclusivity for 200 bucks.
Making money off of beats is more about business knowledge than it is about music knowledge since 80 procent of the people that are looking to buy a beat don't know shit about music.
Ryder Nguyen
haha no no not perspective switching you are bottom which recives validation not me :)
this was joke now you must suffer :)
don't take the bait, be nice and equal :) Only way to accomplish things :)
Yeah but teachings aside, I know that everybody is just using a parametric eq and fuddling on the curve so don't tell me "huh huh I'm so smart never heard of it before but yeah hugh this is right hehe sweating intesifies"
See now I'm cool again :) I was nice but now I'm cool :) You don't want that I'm cool :)
Be nice :)
Samuel Morales
How do I prove to them it's my song? I didn't copywrite it or anything. But after typing this, it crossed my mind that I actually used a Katy Perry vocal sample it (although it's completely chopped up, reversed, rearranged, etc, that you probably can't even tell what sample it is). But oh well.
The worst part is, the majority of videos my song is in are like Minecraft and COD videos. The absolute worst part.
I thought you were dropping common knowledge like you thought you were dropping some never before heard of shit. Haha. My bad.
Anthony Ramirez
If you don't have any copyrighting, you're pretty boned I think. Idk, I'd still talk to YouTube about it, they're pretty dumb when it comes to claiming ownership over creative content. Their stupidity could work in your favour.
Contacting the people that produced the videos which feature your property and asking them to credit you will result in some free PR (if they go for it) which is always nice.
Good luck goy.
Xavier Edwards
pixel tears are delicious but you could say that shit about literally anyone and they still wouldnt know what to improve
tell you what say the kind of music/genre you do like and i´ll do something similar with the next tune, then yo ll be raging less next time
Justin Brooks
anybody know of some wicked sick drum packs I can get my hands on to start trying to make rock songs in FL
Sebastian Ross
im super into vapurwave
Jack Moore
oh floral shoppe 420 macintosh kinda stuff, that was hype couple years ago. givin it a chance
Justin Peterson
Anyone here do any future bass? Shit is pretty hype
your sample game and overall sound is good, you just gotta focus a bit more on detail, also play some more notes with the 808 and try to improve a bit on your composition game a bit, overall pretty good tho.
It sounds empty, try adding a bass and add more details and variations.
that's what you're supposed to do when you mix.
if you wanna make rock then get some drums for Kontakt, Damage has a sick Studio Drum Kit and also the Abbey Road series are standard.
compositionally and sound design wise this is top tier, however the mix needs LOTS of work, the drums are wayy too quiet you need to bring those up.
Brandon Brooks
is has that discovibe i like the open hats you got on in the beginning. after that the bassline is kinda unclear and could really use sidechaining coz the kick isnt all that clear. also you might wanna think through all the synthlines so that it doesnt sound like a mess.
idk about genres but words 90s techno or disco house come to mind. are you trying to sound indian / PS1 videogame OST with melodies on purpose?
Samuel Lewis
Lol. Shut the fuck up.
Colton Watson
I produce on shitty headphones, so I didn't even try adding eq/compression, right now I'm mostly focusing on writing/arrangment, I was thinking I could send this stems to someone on fiverr, would this be too lame?
>are you trying to sound PS1 videogame OST with melodies on purpose
You got me, hopefully it doesn't sound too cheesy.
Easton Cook
I produce on 30 buck AKG headphones, you should learn how to mix properly, I see mixing/mastering all part of the creative process, it's part of what you're making, if you spend some extra time learning your craft you'll see that you can't do one without the other.
