In the final fight scene between Iron Man and Captain America, Stark not only struggles to overcome Rogers...

>In the final fight scene between Iron Man and Captain America, Stark not only struggles to overcome Rogers, but actually get beaten on the face by empty handed Rogers. According to the Marvel Universe as described in the comics, that'd be impossible. Cap can lift max 1200 pounds, while Stark on suit is classified "Potentially incalculable, able to lift in excess of 100 tons". Even if Captain's shield is theoretically indestructible, Rogers is not, any moment without the shield, Stark could take him in one blow. In addition to that, Iron Man's suit is made (in lower scale) of the same metal as the Hulk-Buster which can take hits by Hulk (100t+), Captain America could never break through the shell by punching it.

thus why it came off at the part that is meant to be removed.

He wasn't trying to kill Cap, just get him out of the way so he could fade Bucky

Who are you quoting?

I liked civil war as well

Suit on the left is already in a bunch of pieces. There's no actual damage from the truck.

>According to the Marvel Universe as described in the comics

>in the comics

MCU is not the comic universe user

Pseudo nerd shit needs to end

>but the in universe lore says that this statistic is x, making this in movie action now totally different
Jesus christ real nerds don't even think like this, it's just normies pretending to be nerds
>le Luke Skywalker killed millions of workers on the death star
Holy fuck

>5ft little girl can take down 6'5" mercenaries like they're nothing

>marvelcuckery
>any sense

>There's a reason the hulk buster is twice the size of the regular ironman suit
It may be made of the same materials but each suit has a function that creates weaknesses that may not be found in other suits and cap was on the losing end until he targeted the power source and Tony wanted Bucky dead not Cap.

If anyone in the MCU was even half as powerful as their comicbook counterparts, then none of these movies would last more than 5 minutes.

Comicbook Iron Man could have taken on the entire Chitauri invasion by himself while barely taking any damage, if any.

The MCU is not the same thing as the comics. If it were, this wouldn't have been a fight. Vision is insanely powerful in the comics, and Scarlet Witch is practically a god.

tbqh, whedon harmed the universe more than anything.

meme arrows aren't just for quoting, ya know XD

cap isn't wearing his suit/boots on the right, obvs. no traction

Yeah. I didn't really like the first Avengers movie.

>hit from above the ground obviously taking all the energy of the hit
>hit from the side

Not really trying to defend capeshit here but I feel that one is reaching.

The shield absorbs all impact. Leather boots would not help whatsoever.

Theyre too afraid to show Iron Man's flawed character, so instead they just keep making him weaker.

God forbid they actually show what a barely functional alcoholic struggles through in their comic movie.

Ive loved Iron Man for decades. He was the first superhero I actually liked, and its like every time they put him in a new movie, they make him weaker. Its like theyre getting ready to kill him off so they dont have too keep paying rdj millions per movie

>God forbid they actually show what a barely functional alcoholic struggles through in their comic movie.
They did it in Iron Man 2.

Man he was such a bitch in CW. I love how they made him a complete hitler to make the cap side look better.

Barely. They show like one scene of him drunk because he thought he was going to die, and they barely address it every again.

>whole forest gets blown backwards
>implying no lateral force
not really trying to be an asshole but fuck you

yeah the air from the hammer hit kills the forrest and cap gets pressed down into the malleable dirt.

you don't understand. "some" force causes the trees to be blown back. the force is lateral obviously, the epicenter of the force is right on cap so there should be a much stronger lateral force on cap, as well as a downward force. he's getting pushed downward and backwards with a force much stronger than a grenade. even if there was no lateral force though, the downward one should still smash him into the ground. he's body is not superhuman. so obviously in the first scene the shield works by absorbing blows while in the second it's just really solid.
>the air from the hammer
what air? it's obviously from the explosion-ish thing after thor is rebounded. the hammer isn't big enough to fan air, and even if it was it wouldn't do it in all directions.

>he's body is not superhuman
Except that it is

no it's not, his abilities are strength, agilitiy, stamina, etc at the "peak of human potential". he's not superhuman. certainly not enough to withstand a force that sits a forest down.

>no it's not, his abilities are strength, agilitiy, stamina, etc at the "peak of human potential"
Are you fucking insane?

Fuck off to Sup Forums

Breh, he's clearly superhuman. Stop making shit up.

that's literally how his powers are defined and how the super-soldier serum is defined to work. it brings out the full potential of the person.
Even if you think he's stronger in MCU than in the comics, he's at best slightly above human. again,
> certainly not enough to withstand a force that sits a forest down.

He's defined as having the speed of an olympic sprinter, stamina of an olympic marathon runner, strength of an olympic weight lifter. So superhuman in the sense that's it's impossible to have all of those at once but he's still limited to the best a human can achieve. He can't lift tons like Spider-man for example.

>strength of an Olympic weight lifter
Well than all the Olympic weight lifters I have seen need to train harder.

Because I don't think they can stop helicopters.

And yet he pulled Spider-man by his webs, who later proved to be capable of lifting several tons of cargo upwards his shoulders.

So does he ever win a fight in the comic books then?

Because by that description he's a weak little bitch.

Motherfucker held down a helicopter and prevented it from flying off WITH HIS BARE HANDS.

Pretty sure the best runners cant run a marathon at sprinting speed

In the MCU the super soldier syrum is way more powerful than it is in the comics. Cap is basically a quarter of the way to hulk strength at this point if he can take Tony to the cleaners for at least a little bit even without his shield.

an average helicopter has a lifting force of about 2-3 thousand pounds. he can press like 1200 pounds in the comics. I don't remember the scene all that well but if he just has to hold onto it, it doesn't seem extremely out of his reach(think of just dead-arm holding something vs lifting it) although he's still obviously stronger than his comic book counter part if you don't just take it as another marvel inconsistency.

Again, angles. Spiderman is a kid who doesn't weigh much. Cargo lifting is strength. Do you really not see the difference?

>"UH THAT'S NOT *SNORT* HOW IT WORKS IN THE COMICS HEH"

Stark was rushed, he made the suit in 24 hours.

The suit he was using was mediocre and steve rogers from the ultimate universe is very superhuman

It was ridiculous that Iron Man could take a tank shell without any serious damage but Captain America's fists were rocking him. Then again, Captain America overpowered fucking Spider-man twice, the same Spider-man that casually dominated Winter Soldier (pretty much Cap's equal) and Falcon. Basically Cap was the star in his own movie and had plot armor up the ass.

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Doesn't excuse things like Bucky's metal arm ripping into Tony's armor and crushing his his arm when we had a scene of Spider-man no selling Bucky's best punch minutes before. And on top of that, Cap somehow overpowered Spider-man despite getting overpowered himself by Bucky's robo arm. There no consistency here.

>According to the Marvel Universe as described in the comics, that'd be impossible.

There's your fucking problem right there, you autistic fuck. Stop treating the comics like goddamn physics textbooks.

he pulled him when spidey wasn't expecting it and got him off the ground. once he's off the ground strength doesn't matter cause if he tries pulling back he's just pulling himself in faster.
that description is wrong. or only meant to be a comparison. he's at peak human capacity in all aspects.
>Cap is basically a quarter of the way to hulk strength at this point
fuck no. didn't hulk stop a ship with a punch in the first avengers?
>if he can take Tony to the cleaners for at least a little bit even without his shield.
he would have lost without help from bucky. hell, 2v1 and it was close even til the very end. plus tony's suits get more and more depowered with every movie.

>Spider-man no selling Bucky's best punch
kek. bucky should have mike levy'd him
within its own universe it doesn't make sense. the first version of tony's suit can take a tank blast but cap punches the latest version a few times and it breaks?

>tony's suits get more and more depowered with every movie.

and that makes zero sense. how can his mark 3 suit be better than mark 50 or whatever?

i didn't say it made sense, but it's obviously true, the OP is an example of it. i also don't know how accurate is but it'd be a point even if it doesn't explain his other suits being destroy-able by a car.

All the people complaining about iron man losing need to watch the fight. He clearly outclasses bucky and cap 1v1. They slowly break down his suit when hes distracted and even then cap would have lost if bucky hadnt grabbed starks leg last second.