Why is there no American player in Premire league?

I liked Clint Dempsey, I want to watch them more.

Burger soccer players tend to be either manlets or just plain wank. Then there's DaMarcus Beasley, who was both.

Any yank athlete worth their salt tend to play burger sports or do track and field.

isnt there an american winger at tottenham? or did they trade him?

>Forgetting Geoff Cameron

Because America is fucking shite at football mate

just watch the MLS ameriboo

Deandre Yedlin plays for Sunderland and Geoff Cameron plays for Stoke City.

Also Cameron Carter-Vickers at Tottenham (although he was born and raise din England) and Emersom Hyndman at Bournemouth.

PL is more popular than ever in America yet none of their stars play there.
Why is that?

We don't need anymore rentboys on our national team

Because our 'stars' are
>old as fuck
>shit
>German born
pick at least one

Nobody in the USA knew what the Premier League was until about 3 years ago.

It's going to take about 40-50 years for us to compete. It may never happen.

>none of their stars play there

2 of of our national team players do play there (Cameron and Yedlin). But in general, America's "best" players prefer MLS because they get paid a ton of money despite not being very good. Michael Bradley was a benchwarmer at Roma and made 1 million a year, now he's a starter for Toronto and makes 6 million. It's very similar to what happens with the Russian and English national teams.

>It's going to take about 40-50 years for us to compete

We've been competing for more than 20 years now

Did you watch the game we played against Germany in Brazil?

Or what about Argentina?

We have a long way to go.

We're at least 2 generations from legitimately competing for a WC and our players featuring on top clubs.. at best

You mean when we lost 1-0 to the best team in the world? Yeah, what a disaster.

This man knows what is up

It was never in doubt and they went easy on us.

The Argentina game in CA was a harsh dose of reality.

There used to be a few solid American players i the PL.

Makes sense

>watch copa america semi final on US stream
>all the pundits pre-game pick USA to beat Argentina

hmm

Not really, everyone knew we were going to get wrecked. The ESPN pundits gave the most half-hearted "we've got a chance" pregame analysis I've ever seen, losing was inevitable.

We are homers what do you expect

They all play in Bundesliga

dempsey was over there for most of his prime.

he's old and want to be closer to texas imo.

Reminder that USA will win their 1st world cup before Englel wins their 2nd.

>DaMarcus
Typical normal american name I see

Some of us became Fulham fans when McBride went over. But some of us are also o l d.

the spurs have an american

Who they immediately sent out on loan to Sunderland.

Dempsey was a real G because he grew up playing street football against Mexicans in his trailer park and learnt to play with soul

Most US players are suburban middle class white kids or mediocre German army bastards

Because the MLS will overpay for them so they can market them.

Which will end up hurting the US team.


Mexico has had a similar problem with their league.

>the spurs

:^)

>manlets

this is honestly our biggest problem, anyone super athletic who's above 5'10" plays other sports because even if you dont go pro you at least get shit loads of sluts who jersey chase

just google allen iverson playing quarterback, then watch him playing basketball, and try to tell me he wouldn't have been a lights out number 9

sorry, I forgot to add that even manlets eschew soccer for other sports, i.e. iverson

Is the Premier League relevant anymore?

It's true. It would just take a few of those really good athletes choosing soccer for us to turn it around. All of the best players at D1 schools are like 5'6" - 5'8".

but China will win theirs before the USA

he most definitely would not have been a "lights out number 9" unless he had the skill and natural talent of using his feet, I will go ahead and say it's extremely improbable Iverson could've become even championship level, let alone world class.

when using his feet*

Natural talent for just one sport instead of another doesn't really exist, if Iverson played soccer his whole life, he could be elite

You are retarded

lol no, maybe for sports where you only use your hands like basketball, but it's not at all the same for soccer. Humans naturally use their hands all the time to perform very fine, technical movements, not the same with the feet.

nah, it's about coaching and experience. Look at all these shit African midfielders that are only good at running. Compare them to a midfielder in southern Europe or the Americas, they know how to actually set the pace of the game and some can still provide the physicality of it

You're not telling the whole story, and you oversell the nebulous quality of "soul". Clint Dempsey was from a rural shithole called Nacagdoces. But his parents drove him 3 hours each way to play for the Dallas Texans ever since he was 14. The Texans were the premier youth club in the state. He did use the local fields, sure, but the majority of his soccer development came from much less humble sources.

Add up the time he spent with the Texans, and the 3 years at Furman University, a small private liberal arts school in SC, and finally 3 years with New England Revolution, and you've got a decade of soccer experience in a cultured environment far from the dusty lots of his hometown, before his jump to the Premier League.

The fetishization and mysticism surrounding ghettos creating good players needs to stop. There's a lengthy analysis of basketball players, current and former, that shows that players are just as likely to come from middle-class or better, stable, homes as they are from inner cities.

Kobe Bryant, for example. was a multi-lingual, affluent kid who'd spent significant time touring Europe. Despite his image, JR Smith came from a stable, middle-class family. The 2nd pick of the 2014 NBA draft was Jabari Parker, a Mormon from a well-off family.

And this extends to top soccer players as well. Germany's team is filled with upper-middle class, world-class players. Where did Messi develop? From the age of 6 it was either at one of the best academies in Argentina (Newell's Old Boys), or Barcelona's La Masia, both of which are not adverse surroundings.

This is why bundesliga is our MVP

fulhamerica 4 lyfe. hope we can get promoted this season

>DeAndre Yedlin, RB*
*If he goes back to Sunderland, perhaps, or somewhere else.
>Matt Miazga, CB
Will go on loan to Crystal Palace from Chelsea
>Geoff Cameron, CB
Starter for Stoke. Jack of all trades, CB/CDM/RB
>Emerson Hyndman, CM
Just transferred to Bournemouth, and was one of the highest rated Fulham prospects. Scouts tried to get him to Liverpool, but he chose Howe's intense man-management style and track record with youth. Plus easier to get into the team.

Plus we've got multiple prospects there already. Cameron Carter-Vickers (Spurs), Mathew Olusunde (ManU), Kyle Scott(Chelsea), Brooks Lennon(Liverpool), etc.

Bundesliga is going to be fucking stocked with Muricans. Fabian Johnson, John "America" Brooks, Cristian Pulisic, Alfredo Morales, Bobby Wood, Timmy Chandler. Am I forgetting anyone who isn't currently injured?

We could give two shits about the sport. That usually helps with player development.

Bradley was NOT a benchwarmer at Roma, never was.

Bundesliga is our new development league.

Many players don't look at EPL as "the place to be" anymore once they know how easily your career can be ruined by going to a negative shithole club like Sunderland or Hull or something, since Americans will never be trusted or given the benefit of the doubt anywhere except if the coaches really believe (like Fulham, Everton).

matt miazga

It's higher quality soccer than MLS, without a language barrier, and with lots of star-power, which is essential in getting new soccer fans here (as LAG figured out with Beckham et al). That's why the EPL is popular here.

We can't produce players good enough for the EPL on a consistent basis. Friedel, Howard, O'Brien, Dempsey were all good EPL players. But they're either retired or came home for a payday, because MLS can use US stars to put butts in seats.

We'll have another wave of Americans there soon enough. It may be tough, because of how much money is being thrown around there. You've got to be extremely good, or a really good meme-player, to get picked up by even the bottom teams.

>Timmy Chandler

>tfw we never lost to Iceland
>tfw we scored more than one point at the world cup
>tfw our managers have won just as many Premier League trebles

Yeah, England is definitely better

>We've been competing for over 20 years

>N-no, look at 2 specific results from the last few years!

Terrible. Look at his stance holistically, and you'll see he's more right than you are. By which I mean, yes, you're correct that we're pretty far from our players competing on top clubs. But the rest of your position is wrong.

The US has, with a squad worth significantly less than its opponents, consistently performed well at World Cups, Continental tournaments, and Confederations Cups. And even then, we've already challenged for a WC.

In 2002 we were a Frings handball from a Semi-Final, in a game that we dominated. Our SF opponent would've been South Korea, a team that we'd tied in the Group Stage already, and not a team that we wouldn't have had a good chance of defeating.

So, with a favorable knockout stage, we can already compete for a WC.

Here is a list of other countries to illustrate my point about performance relative to squad value:

Poland: 194.95 MM EUR
Russia: 135.77 MM EUR
Ivory Coast: 127.30 MM EUR
Austria: 126.95 MM EUR
Ukraine: 123.60 MM EUR
Morocco: 103.00 MM EUR
Ghana: 101.50 MM EUR
Denmark: 92.85 MM EUR
Nigeria: 80.85 MM EUR
Japan: 72.40 MM EUR
Ecuador: 68.45 MM EUR
Paraguay: 58.30 MM EUR
Egypt: 54.80 MM EUR
>United States: 51.7 MM EUR

Now, here is how many times those teams have reached the R16 in the World Cup since 1994:

Poland (0/2)
Russia ( 0/3)
Ivory Coast (0/3)
Austria (0/1)
Ukraine (1/1)
Morocco (0/2)
Ghana (2/3)
Denmark (2/3)
Nigeria (2/4)
Japan (2/5)
Ecuador (1/3)
Paraguay (3/4)
Egypt (0/0)
>United States (4/6)

We've done just fine without players on top clubs, and we won't need a team of Real Madrid/Barca players to be successful. We just need to create players of slightly better quality than in the past, at a significantly more consistent rate.

>We've been competing for over 20 years

>N-no, look at 2 specific results from the last few years!

Terrible. Look at his stance holistically, and you'll see he's more right than you are. By which I mean, yes, you're correct that we're pretty far from our players competing on top clubs. But the rest of your position is wrong.

The US has, with a squad worth significantly less than its opponents, consistently performed well at World Cups, Continental tournaments, and Confederations Cups. And even then, we've already challenged for a WC.

In 2002 we were a Frings handball from a Semi-Final, in a game that we dominated. Our SF opponent would've been South Korea, a team that we'd tied in the Group Stage already, and not a team that we wouldn't have had a good chance of defeating.

So, with a favorable knockout stage, we can already compete for a WC.

Here is a list of other countries to illustrate my point about performance relative to squad value:

Poland: 194.95 MM EUR
Russia: 135.77 MM EUR
Ivory Coast: 127.30 MM EUR
Austria: 126.95 MM EUR
Ukraine: 123.60 MM EUR
Morocco: 103.00 MM EUR
Ghana: 101.50 MM EUR
Denmark: 92.85 MM EUR
Nigeria: 80.85 MM EUR
Japan: 72.40 MM EUR
Ecuador: 68.45 MM EUR
Paraguay: 58.30 MM EUR
Egypt: 54.80 MM EUR
>United States: 51.7 MM EUR

Now, here is how many times those teams have reached the R16 in the World Cup since 1994:

Poland (0/2)
Russia ( 0/3)
Ivory Coast (0/3)
Austria (0/1)
Ukraine (1/1)
Morocco (0/2)
Ghana (2/3)
Denmark (2/3)
Nigeria (2/4)
Japan (2/5)
Ecuador (1/3)
Paraguay (3/4)
Egypt (0/0)
>United States (4/6)

We've done just fine without players on top clubs, and we won't need a team of Real Madrid/Barca players to be successful. We just need to create players of slightly better quality than in the past, at a significantly more consistent rate.

Why are all the good Japs in the Bundesliga and not in the EPL?

Didn't you hear 2002 was all rigged

>It's very similar to what happens with the Russian and English national teams.
does the MLS have an equally strict number of required US nationals per team like the russian league

There are like 2-3 german player agencies that cornered the market for stars in Japan and Korea after their "football boom" in 2002.
They like to get their players to german clubs.
Also Bundesliga clubs are cheap af and know how to scout.
Japs don't cost much but you need to pick the right ones to be successful.

deandre yeldin. right back. on loan to sunderlel from spurs. he's not bad but he definitely needs to improve.

the best american players play in germany.

people from around the world still don't realize that in america soccer is still a sport for rich girls and lesbians. that's why the uswnt is the best ever and shows no signs of slowing down: girls actually play soccer here.

lol bootyblasted bourgeoisie

>mfw no one mentions the GOAT Brad Guzan

Because

>""""""""""""Premier""""""""""""

Why would Americans send players to a shit system, where its collective """best""" group can't even win?

Matt Miazga and DeAndre Yedlin. Yedlin as a starter for Sunderland, Miazga as a young dude in development at Chelsea.

Forgot based Guzan and Cameron

Guzan isnt in the Premier League
Villa was relegated

its not even that, wayne rooney put it best, even though he got shit for it.

In the USA soccer is a rich white sport for some odd reason, where as in other countries it's equivalent to what basketball and gridiron is here.

Soccer hasn't been utilized in the ghettos only ,"Barrios" most of which are mexicans that would rather play for mexico.

You have to find a way to convince kids in dade county miami south houston, the bronx,compton,watts, and all these low income places to take interest in soccer.

Also the menality soccer is for homosexuals, and wimps doesn't help.

You take a game like football (gridiron) where young black folks can go out there and sack the shit out of someone, they have a chance to release anger and frustration.

Boxing you have good hands, cool you can go to a gym and train make it or not.

Basketball played with more street is another get out the hood, and street ball is way more physical.

Soccer you kick a ball, and can't hit anyone. That pretty much makes them lose interest.


if you could convince those 5 star high school recruits to convert to soccer, you make a chance, but seeing football is the sport of choice, i don't see it happening any time soon.

Fuck, you're right.
I was also about to say Andrija Novakovich but he's in the Championship too.

>goat
He wasn't even the best bald Brad goalkeeper

Friedel is probably the best US keeper of all time. Guzan has always been a shitlord

he used to be like ten years ago

How's the WiFi at the library, Ta'quir? Your reading level is probably around a 4th grade level, so I'm surprised that you're here!

>this fuckin' thread

Football is not such a physical game. Look at the african national teams, then look at ours (Or Chile, Spain and so on).

these flags
these posts
these modern results against the US

We prefer owning the clubs than playing for them

what club do you own?

Manchester United

Arsenal
Crystal Palace
Liverpool
Man U
Sunderland

cool, i own the Orlando City

Because no skills. Dempsey was one of the best midfielders in the league when he was at Fulham