What does Sup Forums think of Native Americans...

What does Sup Forums think of Native Americans? Many of them had fully functioning civilizations before Europe showed up and killed them.

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they belong in a museum
die already

It's a little more complicated than that. Reservation life is sad and corrupt thanks to Europeans though.

Define functioning civilization. Because existing in low numbers and living in huts and tents with zero technological development for thousands of years is something that even niggers managed.

dont you speak guarani

What are Natives like in Latin America? There must be some who didn't mix with the Spanish.

They have some of the coolest cryptids and folklore

They had pretty high numbers (comparable to Europe, if still smaller) until smallpox. Many had farming. Besides, Europe killed the ones with proper cities and civilizations anyway (like the Aztecs and Incas).

We didn't kill them but allied with them, learned their language, showed them our religion and fucked them :)

I'm a little biased but mayan civilization is my favorite, then the incas, then the aztecs and at last the north american tribes.

why do you prefer incas over aztecs?

Native americans were black.

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what about it? don't you speak serbo-bosnian?

they're like yours but poorer, dirtier and uglier
the only reason we romanticize iroquois, siouxs and aztecs is because none of them is alive and dirtying the streets
here, have a pic

Aztecs were black.

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Well, to be honest they are both at the same level to me. I don't know too much about them.

For me it's
Inca > Aztec > Maya > Eskimo > Iroquois > Amaonians > The rest

Why mayans?

>Inca > Aztec

>Aztec > Maya

y tho

>tfw Cherokee tried to integrate, were treated horribly, and are never mentioned

Inca had Domestic Animals, built on high altitudes and resisted quite strongly against the Spanish, which is why they're better than aztec

The Aztecs built a city on top of water which is better than mayans
Oops forgot them
They're like Iroquois

Can they pass as Native Americans?

They invented the number zero(not sure if india did it first), they invented writting(in america), were skilled astronomers, their architecture was awesome, made accurate calendars, made the popol vuh etc...

This

The Iroquois, Charokee, and Shawnee all had governing bodies of some kind.

I think we should have tried harder to get them into the US as their own semi-autonomous states.

Fuck the plains natives though. They were raiding savages.

wow
racist

Aztecs were good at war and commerce and were a huge influence in mayan politics.
Pic related is a mayan pyramid with aztec characteristics.

Tenochtitlan was built in the same altitude than Machu Picchu and as user said the
Mayans developed a lot more things than the Aztecs.

Europe never showed up and killed native americans. According to you guys, Spain is a latino country, so actually it was a war between native american tribes and the spanish just won, and even conquered a chunk of Southern Europe too. :^)

Spaniards couldn't kill all the natives, there were just too many of them.

What I honestly admire from the Incas is their masonry/engeeering, their logistics and their specialized crop researching. The area they managed to conquer was impressive considering the transport limitations in the Americas.

It is amazing how they were able to cut the rock with that precision.

Yeah this, Spaniards aren't white therefore it wasn't really colonization

Are there many full blooded or mostly full blooded natives left in North America? Some """""native""""' woman came to my school for a presentation in elementary and she just looked like a wrinkly white woman.
Even a lot of chiefs after a point were like 1/5 cherokee 4/5 Scottish.

So according to you the glorious conquistadors couldnt kill a bunch of savages? Is that what you're saying?

ffs

The crown was just too nice.

i never met any because in latin america its all mixed, but for what i've read, for you guys, native americans are basically a meme at this point. it must suck to be one because they're a fucking joke

But thing is, Incas remind me too much of the European/Roman/Old World empires,:their end goals (peace/prosperity/better administration) they way they integrated the subjugated nations, their legitimation, the way they waged war, the culture, etc.

Nope. They are too manly and too "white"

>Native Americans are not manly
Why?

I generally like Native Americans, they have fascinating cultures, music and mythology. In case of Mayans, their science was shockingly advanced too.

However, I abhor violence, and find their religions and human sacrifices dreadful and most barbaric.

This is a really cool pic by the way. Did they live like this back in the day? Surrounded by nature this much? Or does it look so foresty because since they abandoned the place no one was there to clear it out?

This is the average Kazakh.

You are way more aesthetical, also, Native Americans have weak jaws and look feminine.

The latter, all the pyramids were covered in wood and red paint. There were stone roads. It was much more deforestated. They consumed a huge amount of wood.

>all the pyramids were covered in wood and red paint
>red paint
Is that an euphemism for...blood?
>They consumed a huge amount of wood.
For what? In western media usually natives are portrayed as ..well tree huggers.

Kazakhs look like my ancestors. We even borrowed their word kök (kék in Hungarian) which means blue, ~1700 years ago.
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>Is that an euphemism for...blood?
I... don't know. I guess it is. Mayans saw blood as a symbolic thing. They made many scrifices to satisfy the god's thirst for blood.
>For what? In western media usually natives are portrayed as ..well tree huggers.
Those would be more like natives feom the U.S. Mayand needed to burn a lot of wood to make their type cement to create their huge constructions.

>Typos

That's Europe gift to the world.
We don't give 2 fucks about civilization, war on a global scale desu.

Maybe not in the east coast, where it's over populated.
I'm Cree from Alberta and there's quite alot of us here.

>meme at this point
Well i suppose it depends on where one would be from, because it hasn't sucked for me.
On a reserve, everyone pretty much knows each other, so that makes everyone get along well. We're fairly nice people who like to laugh. Just stay away from the natives who live in downtown areas of cities and towns. That's where you're getting your information from.
Also fuck Winnipeg

What are north american natives like? how do they live and what do they do nowadays? tell me about them

See
I could've been a little more specific, but i thought details didn't matter

Just ask what you wanna know. I'll try to answer them

>The Iroquois, Charokee, and Shawnee all had governing bodies of some kind.

So did Africans

But that don't make them advanced

Mesoamerica, with the Mayans playing a role somewhat like the Greek and the Aztecs more like the Romans is a better fit IMHO. The old world culture I would compare the Inca to would be the Himalayan Bhuddist civilizations (places like Tibet or Nepal) who also managed large empires, impressive road infrastructure (including bridges over imposibly steep ravines) and impressive monumental architecture on a level of population density similar to the Inca and unlike that of Europe or Mexico. The strong theocratic role of Lamas is also similar to the Inca ruler figure proper.

Mexico had a working agricultural infrastructure and a social model ready to be used by the Spaniards, Nahua peoples were used to lending themselves as surplus labor while still laboring as farmers and producing a taxable surplus. This was not the case in Peru where the natives were not used to being taxed or levied in the same way.

This also goes for the way for the way they waged war, eg while every male was expected to participate in a war they did not undergo a formal training similar to Telpochcalli.

It's a fine point and subjective in any way, but what is a fact is Inca civilization was rather unusual and not in the same mold as other civilizations. If it does turn out for instance that their quipu could be used for record keeping it would be a large departure from Mesoamerican use of amate paper and similar systems (parchment, papyrus, Chinese paper) used in the old world.

Texan here.

Fuck them, they were savages and they lost.

Biased

Comanche bastards.

Once a traitor always a traitor.

Some mayan cities in Mexico were strongly influenced by Teotihuacan and one particular group, the Huastecs, even adopted Nahua culture, they used a lot more color.

sez Santa Ana when the Alamo fell

Can you speak (plains)cree then?

I mean they killed each other all the time just like everyone else. Not to mention the human sacrifice, tribalism, and lack of horses (yes the horses were brought to them by spaniards).

That is a good point. Here in Minnesota it varies. some of the rez's have tonnes of stray dogs, poorly maintained roads, cops that don't enforce the law, etc. Of course there are also some really wealthy reservations especially the ones that require higher blood percentages to take benefits (handouts).

pff the spaniards couldn't kill the mapuches in 500 years. faggot.

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