Do you like Mexico?
Do you like Mexico?
Matthew Lewis
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John Peterson
arribaa
Matthew Williams
I hate this fucking shithole filled with monkeys who take the slightest opportunity to go apeshit and steal shit.
Donald Was right, please nuke us, I don't care anymore.
Ayden Bennett
Indigenous Fascism when?
Carson Davis
I love Mexico.
Leo Powell
over my dead body Tizoc
Nathaniel Reed
This
Nice people, great landscapes and top tier food makes a great holidays.
Mexico is gut
Brandon Gray
No
Jordan Rogers
Better idea: finish the job.
Henry Evans
Mexico before colonization
>strong, independent culture
>invented many things on their own
>mandatory education for all
Mexico after colonization
>weak culture
>always trying to suck up to USA/Europe
>invented A FUCKING TORTILLA PRESS
>everyone hates each other and steals/cheats each other
>brainwashed by the sandjew
>ineffective criollo government that is only good at selling out the country
Christian Morgan
We need more intellectuals.
Nicholas Hughes
...
Brandon Watson
I prefer métis myself.
Hunter Ward
I-I would have say yes a few days ago, but I am on the (fence) right now.
This guy is a fag, tho.
Samuel Thomas
is mexico fucked? trump won lads
Levi Perez
Me on the right
Oliver Harris
They're not THAT bad
drug mafia and the government are the main problems of Mexico
Levi Perez
don't forget ignorance and poverty
Samuel Gonzalez
those are the second's fault
Gavin Watson
Nah, we have a corrupt supporting culutre, it doesn't just apply to politics.
Colton Gutierrez
and spanish
Evan Williams
they're not spanish anymore
Caleb White
Technically we're Spaniard, Indian, French and Arab. you and nigger too
Bentley Wilson
There will never be Mexican intellectuals because Mexican culture doesn't foster them
Wyatt Taylor
Nah they gay boys.
David Nguyen
We need more of these.
Some where refugees the rest were Mexican.
Landon Reed
There are, they are just smart enough to flee from this shithole
Eli Hill
I fucking love mexico
but shit... it is very hard in these days tbqhwy
Nathan Clark
I pity them very much. I heard that their economy is being fucked up by Trump's election.
Brandon Jones
Our economy was fucked by Hillary.
Tyler Morris
This desu
Julian Mitchell
we fucked ourselves in the ass, no need to blame trump for that, we signed dependence to Evil corp. and now they want to give us the check.
Luke Perez
>do you like hell?
No.
John Green
Our economy was fucked by Portillo, la Madrid, Salinas, Zedillo and now, by Trump, yes. He doesn't get all the blame by a long shot, but his dumb tweets are raping our currency even more than usual.
Jaxson Ramirez
I like Mexico, I wish they could replace our monkey neighbors from Brazil.
Carson Moore
Criollos are always innovating new ways to funnel Mexican money to European accounts.
Evan Williams
>Are you fucking kidding me?
jornada.unam.mx
Carson Collins
I have failed you.
Ethan Adams
How brainwashed by Sup Forums are you? If you had said Bill Clinton you might have had a leg to stand on.
Jacob Rogers
>mejornada
Ah yes, the dumb leftist """news""" that hate GMOs. I did forget to add Peña.
Adam Stewart
wtf I meant this
Elijah Cook
>002n1pol
>pol
Fuck off, Sup Forums.
Elijah Clark
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Jordan Fisher
Connor Price
And who the fuck let it happen? She didn't come here, wrote it, put a gun into Peña Nieto, forced him to sign, put a gun into anyone responsible for this bullshit. They did it by themselves.
Hillary might have suggested a dumb thing one time, but they have been making stupid shit since the 70s. Portillo, la Madrid, Salinas, Zedillo and Peña Nieto have been fucking our economy for decades. All of the fucking recessions since the fucking 70s were because of them.
And now Trump is making tweets that are actually affecting our economy since it creates uncertainty for anyone who might have invested here. Not Hillary.
Fuck that I also hate that bitch, but she is not the problem right now, and had she won, things would actually be better for our economy compared to Trump.
Isaac Mitchell
Tanto peca el que mata la vaca como el que le agarra la pata.
Joseph Martinez
La mayoría de los dichos son una mamada y este es uno de ellos.
Xavier Hill
But it's indeed necessary, chairo.
Kayden Morris
And it was Calderón the one who did it. 5 years prior to that.
Sebastian Myers
>rt
>telesur
>lajornada
kys
Luis Sanders
hmmmm
Nolan Cook
La verdad no peca pero incomoda.
pulsoslp.com.mx
Y los del cetis ¿QUÉ CHINGADOS TENÍAN QUÉ VER?
excelsior.com.mx
no se olviden que les dio armas a los narcos
Gabriel Cruz
Trump would be good for Mexico if he actually lit a fire under Mexicans' asses and made them focus on diversifying their trade partners and not selling out their resources and labor to the U.S. and other multinational corporations.
Luke Jones
no fucking way tyrone!!!1
you actually think we like you as overlords?
Jackson Brooks
What exactly happened that everyone in Mexico is getting so upset? Was it the gas price increase?
Justin Ramirez
Ya estas muy apendejado por Sup Forums, chairo.
Liam Johnson
not an argument
Wyatt Howard
Yes. I know you love us. Don't pretend you hate our culture.
Nicholas Robinson
Too bad that in order to do so he is making our peso face first on a freefall, and putting the lives of up to 15 million Mexicans in danger. The reason why we are so dependant on you in trade is mainly because of our own politicians, there were several protests when NAFTA was signed. We aren't, but at this point, scraping it entirely would destroy millions of jobs, and being exploited as cheap labor is better than having absolutely nothing. We should renegociate to stop being exploited but we are not going to get anything but an economic war from Trump. Our own politicians put us in this situation, and Trump is making it worse, not better.
What even is your fucking point? That Trump is better for us than Hillary? Read above.
Esto, un chairo con ideas de Sup Forums es lo más patético que he visto.
Owen Ramirez
Idk how much "culture" actually matters for this kind of thing
like I think Trump will be able to Berlusconify us well enough if that's what he wants to do and the economy doesn't crash immediately
Owen Murphy
>Don't pretend you hate our culture.
what does culture have anything to do with this? at this point an asian dude might as well being selling pizza in a texan themed restaurant in my block and i wouldn't give a fuck.
What I really care is whether I have the fucking security of living in sovereign country
Camden Walker
The protests were asking both that it was never signed (fucking retarded) and asking a much better deal (what we should have done). And despite being as hurtful as it is for us, you think we are benefiting from it.
Blake Davis
A gas price increase usually shoots up the expenses of everything with it as higher transportation cost need to be accounted for.
Leo Watson
Mexico wasn't much worse before NAFTA. It's true that NAFTA brought more skilled workers and decreased the agricultural sector but wages are still very low, the middle class is standing on unstable ground, a good portion is still living in poverty, and Mexico doesn't even innovate in STEM.
Juan Flores
Yeah, he didn't armed criminal organizations, he didn't organized the sell of our resources to foreigner.
He's the lesser of two evils.
Tenemos que empezar a pensar de forma crítica. El guey es un pendejo y ella es literalmente satán encarnado.
Jose Diaz
Kys
Jason Williams
He wasn't a politician, he literally could have not done it even if he wanted to.
It's like people saying:
>well at least he didn't vote for the Iraq war, therefore, he is less pro-war than Hillary
Give me a fucking break, they guy not only was pro-invasion at the time, even if he really didn’t seem to care, he didn’t vote yes only because he wasn’t in the position to do so. It’s easy to not fuck up in the government when you are not a part of it and have no say. And on this basis, that Hillary voted yes, people forgot that during campaign Trump was: pro torture, pro bombing, pro-nuclear proliferation, pro invasion, against the Iran Deal, etc. And thus, Mr. “I’m a going to bomb the hell out of them, I am going to torture even if it doesn’t work, I am going to kill their families, let them have nuclear weapons lol who cares” became the less hawkish candidate only because he didn’t vote in favor of a war.
You are doing the same, well “> he didn't armed criminal organizations, he didn't organized the sell of our resources to foreigner.” No fucking shit, he didn’t have a say in any of those things. Now he does, and now he has Mr. “The KKK would be good if they didn’t smoke weed, anyone who smokes weed is a bad person, no exceptions” Jeff Sessions and Mr. “We should execute Edward Snowden” Mike Pompeo as United States Attorney General and CIA director respectively, just to mention two of all the fucking imbeciles he was as companions, like the head of Breitbart. How do you think the “Drug War” and “War on Drugs” rhetoric are going to be under those fucks now that he has a say in those things?
>Tenemos que empezar a pensar de forma crítica
You need to start doing it yourself, cunt.
He is worse, he is outright declaring economic war on us.
Gabriel Martinez
yes
can't be worse than spaniards anyway
John Garcia
>being in the fence
>not in the wall
missed a banter opportunity, m8
Robert Walker
price of petrol went up 20% was it?
Matthew Ward
When we liberalized financial services in 1993 in preparation for NAFTA foreign ownership of the banking system increased to 85% in 7 years. But lending to Mexican businesses dropped from 10% of gross domestic product (GDP) to 0.3%, depriving poor people living in rural areas of vital sources of credit.
In 1994, several factors convinced foreign investors to start pulling out their money (Trump is doing this very thing right now), this resulted in the 1995 peso crisis which reduced the GDP by 6.2% and wages by 25%. In this crisis Mexican-owned businesses and banks were compelled to sell off their operations to foreign investors. US capital eventually came to dominate our increasingly export-oriented economy. The % of exports by multinationals increased from 56.5 in 1993 to 64.2 in 1998, meaning that foreign investors, not Mexicans, profited the most from Mexican labor.
From 1991–1998, the % of urban workers employed for wages fell from 73 to 61; over the same period, the % of unpaid workers rose from 4.6 to 12, and the % of self-employed increased from 16 to 22. Over the same period, wage workers and self-employed workers suffered massive declines in average hourly income, 27% and 50%. While wages did rise in 1999 and 00, average earnings still remained below 1994 levels
The implementation of NAFTA aggravated a lot of these factors. The flooding of subsidized corn from the US into Mexican markets reduced the price of corn by 70%. This had the effect of putting of livelihoods of some 15 million Mexicans who depend on the crop for income into jeopardy. The price of the basic goods such as the tortilla increased drastically (738%). Liberalization of the food market under NAFTA allowed private monopolies such as Maseca, Minsa, and Cargill to hoard food supplies and jack up the price
Despite growth in productivity, real wages in Mexico are lower than what they were when NAFTA took effect. Wages in Mexico are diverging from and not converging with US wages
Nolan Garcia
Well, you're right.
He could, quite certain would have do it if he'd have the opportunity. War is a business.
¿El guey que de forma hipotética hubiera hecho lo mismo si hubiese tenido el poder para hacerlo es peor que la que realmente hizo cosas, malas es poco, malignas?
Thomas Bennett
El guey que va a destruir nuestra economía ahora que tiene el poder es mucho peor, sí.
Adrian Clark
It is a fence now, didn't you get the news?
Charles Rogers
I didn't...
I bet 10 (You)s that he won't even build anything at all related to a wall or fence.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
¿Y ella y sus amigos no destruyeron la mundial en 2008?
Nathan Green
Sus amigos ahora son parte del gabinete de Trump, carajo. Ella era amiga de Trump en el 2008, y si vas a culpar a alguien, es a la administración de Bush, antes de que Clinton fuera secretaria de estado, gracias a que las políticas de Bush eran: "los ricos tienen que pagar menos impuestos". Adivina cuál es una de las principales políticas de Trump, pero en esteroides. Así que so Bush y sus amiguitos en Wall Street destruyeron la economía en 2008, Trump y su gabinete lleno de personas de Wall Street lo van a hacer peor. Mientras destruyen nuestra economía por si lo anterior no fuera poco.
Leo Morris
The wall is already there. Have you ever seen the pictures of the "Mexican Southern Wall with Guatemala", well that wall is actually the Mexican-American border.
We are not going to pay, tho, but he will impose unfair tariffs on us and blackmail us to achieve it.
Our future is really bleak with him in office, even if he doesn't build anything.
Colton Perez
quite the opposite, trump is for sale, so long as mexico gets their bids to him, they free ride america for the next four years.
Jaxson Foster
>be a spaniard conquistador
>see hordes of 4 foot tall hideous brown monsters
>decide to put your penis in them and impregnate them
Jaxon Hernandez
actually, at the time most indigenous groups were slightly taller than spaniards tho, I think there even was a tribe around the patagonia with the average of 6 ft
Thomas Brown
>patagonia indians
Scary
Carson Collins
aquí todo es gratis
Thomas King
That's a meme, there were some tales of giants in Patagonia but they were never found, might have been the natives on stilts doing their thing as in A few Amerindian tribes are actually tall, the Yaqui do average 180cms, but they're rare as a rule
Cooper Sanders
In patagonia indians were exterminated by Roca.
Ask some Argie about that user..Ironically they are italians
Hunter Nguyen
...
Adrian Cook
Eramos bajitos, aunque ahora somos bastante más altos. Superamos a los gabachos
David Miller
They were not exterminated and Argentines are legit Amerindians.
Stop meme'ing.
The European is weak and never got hold of Argentina's territory.
Adrian Peterson
Una cosa, enserio esto de la raza os importa tanto? Yo hasta que no vine a Sup Forums no sabía ni de mestizos ni de nada
Elijah Diaz
El sistema de castas existió durante siglos y sus efectos se pudieron sentir durante mucho tiempo después de que consiguiéramos independencia. Todavía se pueden ver algunos de sus efectos, aunque por supuesto no tan extremos. Y no, en la vida real nos importa bastante poco eso de "la raza", aunque sí tenga algún efecto en nuestras vidas. Sup Forums no es un parámetro real de nada.
John Wilson
Eso solo existió en Nueva España porque en Colombia y otros países no se impuso.
Además vosotros nos traicionasteis, eso era superpotencia.
Juan Thompson
No, claro que no, eso es una cosa de este board. Vamos el mestizaje si es una parte de nuestra indentidad/historia como nación pero se nos enseña como una cosa neutral en la escuela (ni los indigenas ni los Españoles son mejores unos que otros) y tiene una importancia nula en el mundo real. No es distinto que en España con los guiris para serte honesto, hay algina preferencia inconsciente pero no tiende a ir mas allá de eso. Para la mayoria de las personas claro, en todos los países hay chiflados.
Ahora, de nuevo como en todos los países, eso no significa que estemos exnetos de problemas de discriminación o racismo, pero para la mayoria de la gente que postea aquí es algo que en mayor parte conocen del internet y las peliculas gringas.
Samuel Thompson
Tengo errores pero estoy desde el móvil *
Una superpotencia *
Easton Williams
the meme is that "we wuz at least 7ft and shit" and also the that the tribe I said was "giants" everything obviously fake, but we and the spanish were arround the same hight with the diference that we were no more than 5 cm taller than them; just because our nutritions was better at the time, also healthier conditions on our settlements, of cours nowadays the coin has flipped
Colton Edwards
No sabía lo de Colombia.
>nos traicionasteis
En realidad no, pero en resumen: Fernando VII fue un idiota, los gabachos tienen gran parte de la culpa, y las políticas por parte de la corona hacia la gente de las colonias no eran exactamente justas para la gente de aquí.
Tengo una copypasta de Fernando VII si quieres ver la versión meme y simplista (pero muy real) de lo que pasó, por si la quieres leer.
Adam Ortiz
No, la traición fue de ustedes, hasta al fecha la plaza mas importante de México, el zócalo, lleva el nombre oficial de plaza de la constitución, no por la que esta en vigor sino por la de Cádiz de 1812. Si las cortes no huniesen traicionado el compromiso de igualdad con los peninsulares la nueva España habría seqguido parte del imperio Español.
Connor Cook
Yo no tengo la culpa de los que fueron allí y lo que hicieron, también los Anglos los pasaron a todos a cuchillo y nadie dice nada
Además estamos hablando de hace bastantes siglos
Eli Walker
Eh, pero nadie te está echando la culpa, aunque el sistema de castas sí ocurrió y si tuvo y sigue teniendo sus efectos, que se han reducido enormemente pero siguen ahí todavía.
Blake Hughes
¿Y a ti quien te culpa de nada? En méxico a los Españoles se les ve como hermanos y solamente eso, no se les culpa de nada de lo que sucede en el país. Si, claro, tenemos indigenistas locos por ahí de la misma forma en que ustedes tienen sus locos que celebran de mala forma la conquista.