> Spain never had any good colon-

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Spain =/= Habsburgs

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Spain had more control over european possessions than new world colonies.

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"Den Coninck van Hispaengien heb ick altijt gheeert" ("I have always honoured the King of Spain").

those weren't colonies but legit parts of the crown

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Revolt

they were as much colonies as the indian lands.

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Those weren't colonies.

we never tried to culturally assimilate them

>culturally assimilate
they were already catholic and those not catholic were attempted to be assimilated.

>not colonies
>extract resources
>maintain control with military
How many Spanish soliders fought in the revolts?

Spain didn't try to assimilate navarre, galicia, portugal etc.. under one culture

They weren't under the immediate control of Spain, they were subject to the King as much as the Iberian lands.

yes we did

That's a really loose definition of colony.

same as new world kingdoms.

colony in reality means settlement, and by true colonies spain has none, but by people under control and extracting resources and goods and services they were colonies.

You do know that part of our anthem is meant sarcastically right?

Maitained under control by Spanish soldiers+some loyal catholic lowlanders

No they didn't.

Spain bantered that area hard.

If it didn't had more problems because of so many possessions I think they would have just drowned them all.

Austrian Habsburg lands weren't part of Spain in any sense.

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they were controlled by spanish crown I believe while under king of spain.

only the sicilies were a de-facto colony, the rest were powerful enough to be little more than tributaries, although belgians always enjoyed foreign rule for some reason

>de-facto colony,
de faq do you mean by this?

The habsburg were austrian traitors to Spain that deserved to die, they fucked up everything with their stupids religion wars in Europe

they didn’t have independent institutions of their own. Caciquism was predominant which means the whole region never acted as one against their overlord (instead you’d have local lords more interested in fucking up their neighbour than to actually do something productive)

The netherlands (including modern lelgium), milan, portugal and even some spanish regions had them. Those made efforts to become self-reliant and maybe make spaniards go away (belgium not so much, and the netherlands only revolted because spanish king was a dick)

>they didn’t have independent institutions of their own.
What does this mean?

literaly that they didn’t have centralized the power in a group of people small enough to coordinate a colective response (the truth is that they were decentralized over the years to keep them more and more dependent), instead you had all kinds of small government you can imagine (even a syndicate of sorts), that way they had to bend over to the spanish interest as every landlord was pretty much facing the fucking emperor of spain, king of the scicilies, lord of the netherlands, etc etc, and heir to the roman empire (or whatever the tittle was called)
the scicilies were exploited of everything they had, including manpower, to serve spain and spanish interests. This never happened with any other realm under spanish rule except the american colonies (and not for that long either)

>literaly that they didn’t have centralized the power in a group of people small enough to coordinate a colective response (the truth is that they were decentralized over the years to keep them more and more dependent), instead you had all kinds of small government you can imagine (even a syndicate of sorts), that way they had to bend over to the spanish interest as every landlord was pretty much facing the fucking emperor of spain, king of the scicilies, lord of the netherlands, etc etc, and heir to the roman empire (or whatever the tittle was called)
the scicilies were exploited of everything they had, including manpower, to serve spain and spanish interests. This never happened with any other realm under spanish rule except the american colonies (and not for that long either)

Every single Spanish territory was exploited, netherlands was exploited more than new world colonies, they all had "native" institutions for resource extraction or productions.

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>Habsburg
Doesn't sound Spanish to me

twas a german kingdom

the spanish nobles and soldiers sure do, and him being half spanish+ with phillip being anymore is even better, also fuck bourbons death to gabachos.

>to serve spain and spanish interests
More like to serve habsburg interests.

He was King of Spain AND Emperor of Germany.

The bourbons were better than the habsburgs for spain

fuck no, eat shit gabocho, bourbons were french puppets, I would never serve a bourbon, makes me ill.

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lel
you dumb amerisharts
habsburgs are the eternal austrians
if anything
spain was their colony not the other way
around V. Charles or not

atleast one Pedro gets it

>spain was their colony
Nice meme, he never went to Germany, Spanish Habsburg interbred with Spaniards more than the fucking gabochos.

>any of those places
>good

better than US.

Mexico was at least competent at one point or another.

Hell, as shitty as it might have been to live under Porfirio Diaz regime, at least the Peso surpassed the Dollar in value during that time.

You retards the habsburgs only served the holy roman emperor which always was the austrian habsburgs, why the fuck have Spain to go to Europe and kill all the heretics when it was problem of the emperor and get involved in all those religious wars that the only thing they brought to Spain were bankrupts and even less manpower. Spain was the puppet of all the austrian emperors.

literal retards

The bourbons brought reforms, modernization and a centralized nation. To the end of the XVIII century Spain was recovering his position in the world, but then the french revolution happened and Fernando VII

No, Charles V. was King of Spain and Archduke of Austria, King of Hungary, etc. and Holy Roman Emperor. Basically he was the ruler of a lot of territories, but the non-spanish territories weren't a dependency of Spain or something

>he never went to Germany

He went there pretty often, for instance the diet where he met Luther

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_of_Worms

The harshest redpill to swallow is that this guy was the best king all along and that is why the brits, who had always hated us with passion, helped us overthrow him.

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>You retards the habsburgs only served the holy roman emperor which always was the austrian habsburgs
His capital was in Spain and his power was Spanish.

Hehehe yes whatever you say, keep refusing the truth

>Bonapartes were French
They were Corsican*

don't give a shit, fuck napoleon and his evil spawn.

nah fuck you nigger

>pure blooded spaniard

eat shit, spain should invade france to destroy liberalism.

pretty spanish.

Carl der Grosse (who Americans call Charlemagne) was located in central Europe. It doesn't matter anyway since it was more about which king you served at the time as opposed to what region of the continent you lived on.

spain's offspring are already invading you and killing everything you love m8

Charles the Vth was half spanish.

>liberalism
Pic related nigger

Liberalism is your invention and you forced it to us with your so called (((Liberation)))

Yes because the Hapsburg family lived all across Europe. King Henry the Vth of England was married to a Spanish wife before he left her for a bar wench, that doesn't make the original English monarchy inherently Spanish.

> Carl der Grosse
His named was Charlie the Cool Guy, and he was Canadian. He united upper and lower Canada and fended off the heretic revolutionaries in the south.

pretty sure you're talking to a chicano m8

He looks like the mongrel he was, not particulary spanish

By that logic was Spain a german colony?