The muted reception of BvS, from a box office and critical point of view, is the flashpoint for the changes. The studio had high hopes for the movie, which pitted its top heroes against each other. The door was opened for director Zack Snyder to be involved in shaping the look and content of the entire DC line, which is scheduled through 2020. But critics and fans ripped into the first movie and especially Snyder for perceived missteps including its heroes' unheroic behavior and the dark tone. BvS, which cost at least $300 million to make, has grossed under $870 million worldwide since its March 25 release.
In stark contrast, Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Civil War is heading towards $1 billion in less than two weeks of release. The movie too pitted heroes against each other but Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) are clearly resonating with audiences.
So Warners is attempting a course correction.
Dylan Baker
>Geoff Johns is now their Feige
I don't have a great feeling about this
Austin Cruz
Civil War actually tackled interesting concepts.
BvS was Highschool Theology: The Film.
Camden Diaz
Suicide Squad is going to be 100 minutes of quips.
Benjamin Foster
>Despite the supergeeks’ arguing either against working for the restrictive capitalist government or for their own sense of doing right and correcting injustice, the fact is, nothing here has gravitas. Civil War is politics as adolescents misperceive social/global crisis.
>This has been going on for so long (ever since Hollywood realized the bounty to be had in cajoling comic-book culture’s ready audience; since, say, the 1978 Superman film, then 1989’s Batman) that, by now, the brainwashing is complete. The trivializing has grabbed such hold that when a genuine pop artist like Zack Snyder deepens comics lore into visionary, moral art (the profound Man of Steel and Batman v Superman), many fanboys, and critics, react with anger, resentment — and ignorance.
Henry Lewis
I thought it was because they tried to give it the tone of Nolan's Batman trilogy.
Julian James
of course they aren't: hollywood jews couldn't care less about ART, and money is never enough
Colton Rogers
Wow, the capeshit bubble sure was short lived
Turns out only Marvel will make it work
James Rivera
lmao ITT; people don't read the actual article
Grayson Hall
Daily Reminder: This abortion of a movie was still better than Civil War.
Ryan Ward
>Civil War actually tackled interesting concepts. You mean like "He my friend I get to break law now"? Oh yeah, and btw he kiled your parents and I covered for him. Civil War was boring bullshit.
Jaxson James
>let's not get rid of the real problem (Zack Snyder) >we'll just reorganize our company instead Why is DC/WB full of idiots?
Juan Rogers
Jews are bulletproof.
Ayden Carter
>Comics writer-turned-exec Johns, meanwhile, masterminded the ascension of shows such as Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl and is the writer behind DC's upcoming Rebirth, the publishing side's reboot of its titles that will play out over the summer months. He is not leaving DC, according to sources, but adding film to his portfolio.
REPLACE MOVIE FLASHO WITH TV FLASHO!!
Kevin Clark
> The movie too pitted heroes against each other but Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) are clearly resonating with audiences. >while tackling more serious themes
is this article satire?
Isaiah Flores
>interesting concepts.
What interesting concepts? Tony was a fucking dickhead from the start of the film till to the end. We saved the entire planet but a handful of people died
>WE ARE AS BAD AS THE VILLAINS
She stopped a bomb going off in a crowded mareketplace but some people in the upper floor of a building was killed?
>SHE SHOULD BE LOCKED UP FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE
He killed my parents while brainwashed and had absolutely no ability to stop it?
>YOU FUCKING MONSTER I'LL KILL YOU
Aaron Bailey
Been a while since I've seen a YTMND-tier loop like that.
John Hill
WHERE IS EVANS POSTER?!? WE WON BRO!!
DCucks ON SUICIDE WATCH!
Jordan Gomez
Johns is a bigger hack than Snyder
>inb4 cereal king
Angel Gonzalez
Geoff Johns about to save DC again.
Jacob Clark
>implying Forever Evil was great.
Jaxson Thompson
Doesn't make BvS less worse
Asher Taylor
WHERE THE FUCK IS BRUCE TIMM?!
Cameron Clark
>Civil War actually tackled interesting concepts.
Like what?
Anthony Hughes
>Civil War actually tackled interesting concepts.
Colton Edwards
DC BTFO >b-but muh kino
Josiah Long
THANK YOU BASED JOHN
Dominic Garcia
Yeah, and the DCEU is made of Earth 3 characters It all fits
Blake Russell
News that they're kicking Snyder from JL when? First Affleck as a producer and now this, it's so close...
Jason Thomas
>Tony and Cap both present great points, thus making the viewer consider all options, think about what is the best thing to do with the accords
>viewers are forced to resent Cap for harboring a criminal throughout time, yet they sympathize with Bucky because it literally isn't his fault
>the viewers are introduced to Helmut Zemo, a mysterious entity and no one fully understands his plan, his doings until further into the film
meanwhile BvS... Batman hates Superman because he actually has powers and he saved the world. Lex hates Supes because he hates god like an autistic sperg (alot like most here). Lex makes them fight because.. ????. and everything stops because Martha.
Blake Morris
THANK YOU BASED JOHNS
Eli Parker
They're really blowing this "fallout" out of proportion if you read the actual article.
Anyway, just another thread where manchildren bait other manchildren.
Nolan Lewis
DC. Damage Control
Carson Gomez
...
Blake Evans
Moving around executives means they pushed out other people from the job
They aren't going to let it all sound like shit in these exclusives because that would hurt them you dumb fuck
Bentley Morris
>But critics and fans ripped into the first movie and especially Snyder for perceived missteps including its heroes' unheroic behavior and the dark tone Fucking normies This is why we can't have nice things
Andrew Rodriguez
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Leo Russell
He ruined the comics, now he's further ruining the movies.
Leo Campbell
>Civil War actually tackled interesting concepts.
Colton Cooper
>BvS, which cost at least $300 million to make
AT LEAST!! AND THAT'S NOT WITH MARKETING!!
>Suicide Squad recently went under major additional photography (multiple sources say it was not to add humor) to clear up the issues. Sources say that it was Suicide Squad that escalated Johns’ involvement in DC movies and that he is involved in the film’s post-production.
>MAJOR ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHY
>250 million dollar budget according to people that worked on it
THIS MEANS SUICIDE SQUAD HAS TO MATCH BATMAN AND SUPERMAN!!
Justin Smith
>Geoff Johns and Jon Berg will run "DC FILMS" to steer WB in the right direction
marvelcucks on suicide squad
Andrew Barnes
>Tony and Cap both present great points, thus making the viewer consider all options, think about what is the best thing to do with the accords Funny thing is, the avengers SHOULD actually be blamed for what happened in Sakovia *cough* created ultron *cough* >viewers are forced to resent Cap for harboring a criminal throughout time, yet they sympathize with Bucky because it literally isn't his fault Its called Irony, no one hated Cap for believing Bucky, not to mention the 'deep' concepts devolve to personal vendetta. >the viewers are introduced to Helmut Zemo, a mysterious entity and no one fully understands his plan, his doings until further into the film The good part about this movie was the juxtaposition between this guy and Panther and the whole revenge theme...but it really isn't a deep concept senpai...muh revenge.
>meanwhile BvS... Batman hates Superman because he actually has powers and he saved the world. Lex hates Supes because he hates god like an autistic sperg (alot like most here). Lex makes them fight because.. ????. and everything stops because Martha. I realize now all I've typed was useless because your a die hard Marvel fan hellbent on hating BvS >muh martha kek please
Jack Powell
there's a batman rape scene in the movie? seriously?
Gabriel Fisher
Suicide Squad will flop.
Landon Morris
Everyone knows Marvel is shitty anime tier kinos for manchildren. DC films are real art.
Anthony Brown
>Marvelets still trying to recover from the BvS kino experience >Scraping the bottom of the barrel to create company war threads
tell me something new
Mason Ward
Fuck no.
I swear to God, if the idiocy of the general public reduces WB to producing vacuous tripe like Disney, I'm fucking done with both companies.
Parker Walker
I think they will reshoot Wonder Woman As a matter of fact, they still haven't confirmed who the writer is.
John Stewart
...
Dominic Richardson
why the fuck are all dc bitches fridges?!?!?
Julian Brooks
>vacuous tripe like Disney TOO LATE
Jacob Ward
They'll never understand that it's about the movies. They can change all their executives, producers, and directors, for all I care, as long as the movies are good.
So far they're 2/2 on the quality department. Marvel, on the other hand...
John Hall
because we'd rather hire actors that can act instead of eye candy
Julian Reed
huehuehuehue
Carson Myers
If they had any sense, they'd make it a shared universe but keep all the fucking characters separate. You can have dark brooding Batman in one film while having Superman in another movie without him being the Man of Murder.
Also I hope their idea isn't to just make the movies more colourful and friendlier, you could make BvS like a Marvel movie and it'd still be fucking shit.
Marvel, on the other hand, has not had a single failure in the MCU
Meme at that, loser
Jonathan Walker
creativity is dead
Parker Nguyen
>People actually believe this
So this was a company war bait thread, got it. I'm out of here.
Brandon Lee
I'm with you, bro.
Cameron Perry
Except that was a extremely good thing you fucking piece of god damn shit.
Jose Sanders
>Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) >more serious themes
fucking
where
?
Parker Garcia
You know, it's pretty easy to reduce almost any movie to a single-sentence summary with a derisive tone in an attempt to make it seem like it's terrible.
Just saying.
Liam Jackson
>Superheroes should not be escapism fiction! They are not for children, dad!
Carter Bailey
>BvS stink will bring Affleck and Cavill closer together as they bring their friendship to the big screen
Truly, they are Batman and Superman: The World's Finest
William Edwards
I figured they'd wait until after the BvS DC came out to see if they really wanted to make any changes.
Gabriel Baker
REKT
Chase Bennett
it's funny that you think one turd smells more like shit than the other
Owen Wright
...
Nolan Price
she can literally barely speak english.
Leo Gutierrez
tale of tales was boring. Literally only the first 10 minutes are worth watching
William Evans
>critics and fans ripped into the first movie and especially Snyder for perceived missteps including its heroes' unheroic behavior and the dark tone this is why we can't have nice things everything has to be an unrelenting quipfest for 2 hours
Aaron Rogers
If only it brought their asses closer to muh dick.
Grayson Foster
>In stark contrast, Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Civil War is heading towards $1 billion in less than two weeks of release. The movie too pitted heroes against each other but Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) are clearly resonating with audiences
Ryan Sanchez
Just like Nolan's movies were, amirite?
Christopher Morgan
>ALL SUPERHERO FLICKS SHOULD BE TOTAL ESCAPISM!!! STOP TRYING TO HAVE A MESSAGE!!!
Gavin Reed
>Literal AIDS infected faggot that got blown the fuck out by Norm MacDonald and is a laughing stock in his own industry
Yeah, that actually makes sense he would like BvS.
Carter Ross
>while tackling more serious themes seealso stop samefagging
Nicholas Ortiz
>Zack Snyder deepens comics lore into visionary, moral art (the profound Man of Steel and Batman v Superman)
Tyler Bennett
Right, and the message should be "no one stays good in this world"
Ian Gutierrez
Nothing should ever set its bar so low that mindless escapism is all it's seeking to provide. For those who disagree, thankfully they have Disney to turn to for their multiple yearly doses of "very special episodes."
I've seen paper with more depth.
Nathan Parker
Why bother with these threads? making fun of DCpals is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Gabriel Lopez
Except that wasn't the message. Both Clark and Bruce were proven wrong about themselves and each other.
Samuel Wood
>We saved the entire planet but a handful of people died That's Cap point in the entire movie. >The good part about this movie was the juxtaposition between this guy and Panther and the whole revenge theme...but it really isn't a deep concept senpai...muh revenge. He is a foil to Tony and Cap povs. He proved that total oversight doesn't fix things at all and that letting people do what they want is worse.
Parker Flores
That would have some manner of gravitas if their motivations were even remotely consistent.
Colton Barnes
I still can't get over the absolute ridiculousness of this movie.
Did Sony really not realise Raimi was taking the piss at this point?
Grayson Scott
Yes, it's true. This man has no dick!
John Walker
What did Norm say to BEE?
Joshua Martinez
THANK YOU BASED JOHNS
Austin Jenkins
He's right.
Elijah Butler
>le emotional film with symbolism The problem is that they killed Superman in the second movie he appeared. No one got to sympathize or relate with him, entire thing was literally a Batman movie. They wasted the senate scene on Bay tier explosion instead of digging deeper on Supes philosophy. He died... And no one cared.
Camden Brooks
And just how were they inconsistent?
Connor Smith
Hell yeah motherfucker, Spider-Man vs Star Lord dance-off when?
Robert Miller
It's a joke because Snyder said back when he was making Watchmen that if he did a ''mature'' Batman film he would make him get raped in prison.
Jeremiah Wright
>while tackling more serious themes Marvelfags are delusional if they think their pop corn flick had any deep themes.
Jackson Nelson
If this becomes another quipfest universe I'm out
Owen Robinson
Go grab a fire extinguisher before the DCEU collapses from the flames, DCuck.
Gabriel Gomez
>"He my friend I get to break law now"
Bucky was brainwashed into doing those things. And people were trying to kill him. He can clearly claim insanity and self-defence.