Cornucopia of Resources / Guide Read the guide before asking questions. djtguide.neocities.org/
Special Sup Forums FAQ: >What's the point of this thread? For learners of Japanese to come and ask questions and shitpost with other learners. Japanese people learning English can come too I guess. >Why is it here? The mods moved us here and won't let us go anywhere else. >Why not use the pre-existing Japanese thread? The cultures are completely different. >Go back to Sup Forums We'd like to. Bitch to the mods.
>Should I start with manga or VN's? VNs, easily. Text hookers make your job so much easier.
If you're looking for what VN to start with, just go to the /jp/ version of this thread and search through the images. Those Touhou obsessed fucks have some useful attributes. Pic related.
DJT Sup Forums is for beginners Japanese thread Sup Forums is for intermediate 2chan is for high-end 2ch is endgame
is my understanding. correct me if i'm wrong
Jason Ramirez
Please don't respond to tripfags.
Robert Nelson
It seems that I've come to like Anime picture more and more carelessly. what should I do
Zachary Brown
>Have you read 平成生まれ2? I started it recently, the picture I edited is from its first chapter. Thanks for volume 3, though, didn't have that one.
Jonathan Cooper
Woah, OP, nice job erasing my thread from existence.
Owen Miller
I've been gone for a couple years, can someone give me a tl;dr on why the mods decided to move DJT to Sup Forums?
Nicholas Wilson
I wonder if I become ani-ota.
Colton Sullivan
>trip Are you retarded?
Jason Gray
the thread was full of crossboarders from normalfag boards and perpetually off-topic
it's also on /jp/ now
Nicholas Harris
Is there reading material for beginners that isn't in Chinese cartoon format?
Wyatt Reyes
your favorite textbook
Owen Peterson
What do you have against chinese cartoons?
Nicholas Butler
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
ONE -THOUSAND- CARDS? WHO WOULD DO THIS TO THEMSELVES
Jose Baker
back in my prime
Sebastian Nelson
autism knows no bounds
Gabriel Jackson
this is D-cup Japanese Thread
Asher Hughes
Thanks, but I meant something more like normal literature
I don't like it because it's associated with /jp/-tier freaks and 90% of the cartoons seem to be about little girls baking cakes and singing pop songs I like the ones that I grew up with such as i.e Silver Fang, but I wouldn't watch/read something like Bleach or Naruto or whatever otaku faggots watch
If there is something like this in text format that's easy to read, then sure, but I'd rather stay away from the moe moe kawaii~~ gay shit youtube.com/watch?v=puIGQdTrbtQ
Ayden Morales
>2.4 cards per second
Jaxson Russell
silver fang talks with other dogs in Japanese.
Charles Williams
Posts like this remind me of how many normals are here
Evan Foster
user, you can't just spam the 'good' button without actually reading the card
Brandon Gomez
are you calling me autistic or him autistic?
Wyatt Flores
I've been taking japanese classes since March 2015 with an old lady from japan (She is currenty 80 years old) I really am not satisfied with my japanese, and I decided to not depend on her on acquiring knowledge like I always did. This is my current situation: >kanji I know first and second grande kanjis. Started third grade kanji this year.Will finish it probably in less than 2 months. So I know 240 now and i'll know 440 in 2 months. >vocabulary Most of it is from kanji and writing books my sensei gives me. The book I'm currently writing is Hiroko san no tanoshii nihongo. It's pretty "easy" if you take my time learning japanese in consideration but I'll admit now that I've really just slacked off this 2 years. >grammar Most of it from writing these books. My sensei told me I'll start Kyokasho after finishing Hiroko 2. What is a pretty solid strategy to use from now on? I was thinking on finishing third grade kanji then writing those kyokasho books. (I think the reason she makes me write these books is to make me acquire vocab and grammar while reading and writing these books) I am going to start from second grade(kyokasho) because my vocabulary is not that great. Should I instead go for Core2k/6k? Never did it. I tried it for a few weeks but I didnt continue and when I came back, although I stopped the new cards my reviews were all fucked up. Ignore any english mistakes, I'm a Brazilian. Thanks for any help in advance. I really am looking forwards to improving my japanese. See image, please.
Jose James
>from the moe moe kawaii~~ gay shit
you know, i know -exactly- what you mean, my swedish friend.
However, luckily for you, most anime aimed at children is NOT moe kawaii. And if you're just getting into japanese, you're going to want to watch anime made for children, so i don't' think you'll run into the moe kawaii ugguuuu problem.
Landon Cooper
I am not normal, I am from kc There is difference between being otaku and being weird in general
Aiden Clark
what's a good example anime then?
Grayson Gray
upvoted do you have a blog? i need to follow you asap
Alexander Collins
What? I'll make dinner. Be right back.
Hunter Edwards
I meant to quote
Adrian Walker
He's being disrespectful. Unfortunately I'm not qualified to answer your question, but I hope you find someone here who is.
Owen Cruz
>I know first and second grande kanjis. >Started third grade kanji this year.Will finish it probably in less than 2 months. >So I know 240 now and i'll know 440 in 2 months.
what the fug I've been learning Kanji with Core 6k for about a month and I'm at pic related, despite missing quite a few days in the beginning due to lack of routine
Get Anki and do maybe 10 new cards per day the first 3 days so that you get to know how the software works, then up the new cards to what you think you can handle (I do 20 new cards per day but consider increasing it by 5 or 10)
Read up a little about the Anki preferences aswell, i.e Steps for new cards and such
protip that might be of interest: Get the "KanjiStrokeOrders" font and replace the default Core 6k font with it, or whatever font you like
Parker Baker
You've never heard of doraemon or crayon shinchan?
Leo Fisher
shugo chara is what got me into japanese learning but i already know it would turn that swedish guy off
-shrug-
Charles Wright
Has anyone gotten any emails about JET interviews? I tried asking on /jp/ but the mod and posters there are autistic and threw a tantrum about mentioning JET in a Japanese thread (God forbid!)
Jack Sanchez
I will look into this once I get to the point where I dare to try reading, thanks
what does -this- mean is it like that *slaps you* youtube comments meme shit from 2008?
Kayden Cook
boku doraemon desu
Dominic Jones
Thanks.I hope so too. You learned 1608 unique kanjis in a month? If I stick to 10 new cards per day, will it take too long? Yes, I know... 2 years only to know 240 kanjis and some basic vocabulary and shitty grammar is something to be ashamed of. I see that now. But you have to see from my POV, my sensei never really asked much of me or pushed me or anything.I can't blame her, she's 80 years old. But I am more than willing to have a constant schedule study session with japanese. What about this: I'll finish the Hiroko book.There is just 60 pages left. I can finish in less than 2 weeks. Then I'll finish my third grade kanji. And I'll start Core 2k/6k Anki everyday. But the thing is, this core 2k/6k I'll only do it at my home. What can I do at my sensei's school? The kyokashou books? That might be a good idea, right? Anki core 2k/6k at home and writing books at school.
Connor Rodriguez
In core 2k/6k, I'm trying to set my Hint field to "" for all cards in the deck that have Vocabulary-Kanji as a duplicate to some other card in the deck.
Is it possible to do this programmatically?
Isaiah Hill
what does what mean, shugo chara?
or have you really not seen an emote before?
do swedish people not roleplay or something?
Julian Myers
Can i ask you something user?
You have a BACHELOR'S Degree
Why are you doing JET when you could be doing post graduate study in japan?
You have far more freedom in post graduate study.
Eli Stewart
The pay is ok (you actually get paid more than the actual teachers) but I'm doing it because I like teaching, I like Japan, and I like children.
Your rent is also subsidized so you're only paying the equivalent of like $100 per month for your apartment.
It's a pretty chill life, 1-5 years of getting paid and not having to pay very much all while learning Japanese through immersion. Not to mention that if you're American (which I obviously am) then you don't have to pay American taxes while you're working in Japan, and your Japanese taxes are largely returned to you upon leaving the country.
But again, the money isn't really what matters to me. It is something to consider though, the fact that it's basically free money with absurdly low living expenses.
Kayden Bailey
you really underestimate how shit being a JET actually is
i hope to god your experience doesn't ruin your perception of japan. reply to this post in 5 years and we'll catch up
Jaxon Rivera
No he only learned the red ones, ~240, and learned in this context means "be able to read a word that contains this kanji". Not saying that's bad or anything, though they could have learned more in 1 month.
If you want to learn Japanese then you need to learn words and to read.
Justin Cox
Have you been in JET? Everyone I've asked about it who actually did it said it was an awarding experience, albeit it required effort since you are, in many cases, actually creating lesson plans for children. (I have training in that so the fact doesn't bother me).
Chase Walker
No, I learnt the ones that are red/yellow/orange marked, i.e +200. In total I've learnt 328 cards this month (though not all are sticking yet). If you do like 50 - 60 new cards per day then you can get close to 1500 kanji per month, it's probably doable but I wouldn't attempt it because I'm scared of poor retention.
Regretting the time you spent at the class won't do any good, instead of viewing it as a waste of time you can see it as a very very very long preparation for more serious learning.
Right now I'm not very organized so I'm just doing Anki at home every day, multiple times during the day (my steps are 1 10 30 180), and trying to get through Tae Kim's grammar (because I couldn't be arsed to check other grammars aside from Genki and Genki seemed like it wouldn't work well outside of a uni class or whatever) right now, I wouldn't say that I have even elementary knowledge of Japanese so I can't really help you out too much.
I've studied Serbo-Croatian at home before (I'm actually still studying it, though Japanese is my priority) aswell as studying Russian in educational environments, so I think I have an okay idea of how you should go about learning languages though. Personally I'll probably be upping my cards to about 30 per day, since I am NEET and have unlimited free time, and focus a lot more on learning grammar using Tae Kim's grammar guide (it seems good enough, you can also check Imabi), then try reading (and do more grammar and grinding)
Also this I should have learnt way more, but as I mentioned I missed quite a few days, it's only in the last two weeks or so that I've managed to make a proper routine out of it and now I do it every day with no exceptions (because missing a day of Anki means extraordinary suffering). Another point that can be made is that it's indeed just reading practice, I don't write the Kanji out even though I have the Kanji stroke orders font, if you care about that then you'll need to invest more time.
To clarify I don't care too much about handwriting right now since I don't personally have any need whatsoever to be able to write properly before I can actually read Japanese content (or even after that), hence I don't care about learning stroke orders and handwriting styles.
I found that generally I'm able to guess the correct stroke order after just having read this page, though there are obviously exceptions en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroke_order In general if you want to learn stroke order properly then you probably have to grind radicals aswell, not for me right now.
James Lewis
>I like children How old are the kids you work with? Do you mix with all the classes, or stick with one class?
Andrew Watson
My personally? I've worked with all age groups.
JET generally places you in multiple schools with varying age groups as well, is what I'm told by people who've done it. You go to a different school each day of the week, it's that kind of thing.
Lucas White
>I don't like it because it's associated with /jp/-tier freaks and 90% of the cartoons seem to be about little girls baking cakes and singing pop songs Always related.
Evan Moore
>almost 2 years >240 kanji Do you know the tale of the 1001 nights? This old lady will probably die if she ever stops teaching you Japanese, so she is making it in the slowest way possible so she can outlive you.
Daniel Moore
>that pic What am I when I watch around 30 shows a season and don't have a waifu?
Gavin Anderson
anime otaku
Isaiah Ross
I actually loled. I'll start anki and study everyday 20 new cards per day. Thanks a lot for your replies. What happens if I not manage to use anki in a certain day? Can I "freeze" it If I know I won't be able to study in that day
Landon Harris
What's the sex like?
Liam Adams
holy shit lol
Ayden Bennett
>you actually get paid more than the actual teachers I don't know where you heard this, but it's entirely false.
t. someone working in the Japanese school system
Julian Kelly
You don't choose a waifu, she finds you. It won't happen with everyone.
Tyler Mitchell
otaku joshi
John Thompson
My information is dated by 10 or 20 years so there's that (that's when they did JET).
Matthew Stewart
What do you do and how did you get there?
Jaxson Rivera
>tfw no キクヒメ
Kayden Jackson
What anime type am I if I don't watch anime but enjoy the nostalgia associated with childhood animes?
You don't have to do exactly 20 per day, it might be too slow or too fast for you personally depending on how your retention rate ends up looking. On the first two or three days I struggled to make sense of the Anki concept and was just constantly butthurt whenever I tried learning with it, during my first session I couldn't remember anything and learning 20 cards ended up taking about an hour full of hatred towards whoever developed it.
After a few days you learn how to work Anki properly, and then it becomes easier to deal with.
My Anki tips: Make up mnemonics, even shitty ones can be very useful Don't cheat, it's better to reset a card than to falsely tell Anki you're confident about it The R key on your keyboard can be used to replay card audio Something that I personally did was to remove sentence audio as it makes me lose my focus and stresses me
If you miss out on using Anki one day then you'll just get way more reviews the next day, meaning it will take much longer and be harder since you didn't review the first set of reviews at the right interval. If you end up piling up hundreds of reviews and it makes you feel like setting fire to your computer then you can just change new cards to 0 for a while as you work to get rid of the reviews I suppose.
If you do forget a day or so but you want to finish reviewing everything in one session, I recommend changing your preferences to "Show new cards after reviews" so that you don't get even more stressed out that session by new cards randomly popping up.
David Johnson
Otaku. The "otaku" in that pic is a fucking casual. >at least three airing shows!! >uh oh my backlog will have to wait
It took me 10 years to find a waifu, a character that clicked with me starting from her first appearance.
Aiden Morgan
Anyways I will go to bed so I can be fresh for my morning Anki slave session
Check out the Cornucopia of Resources / Guide link in the OP, it's pretty useful when you're new and gives an insight into what material is available and such
Nathaniel Morales
Thank you for your help. おやすみ。
Charles Martinez
oh my god. I notice now
Adrian Johnson
Hello again, I solved this problem by exporting the deck to Google Sheets and writing a script to do this for me. I'm about to try to import it again and see if everything is fucked. Assuming it works, I can put the deck up somewhere if anyone cares.
Adrian Lewis
Why make the same general on Sup Forums and /jp/?
Jonathan Miller
何が?
Isaiah Ross
Well, importing fucked everything up, so I guess I'll just refer to the spreadsheet when I see new cards. Oh well.
Kayden Campbell
>Can I "freeze" it If I know I won't be able to study in that day Can you freeze your brain? If not, you can't freeze a program that works based on your memory. Reduce your new cards if you must, even set it to 0 on an emergency day, but try to do reviews when they are due. If you don't they will pile up and Anki will correct the intervals by itself, but as things pile up you get more demotivated.
The moment you assume you need to have a waifu or watch a given number of shows, you're already Sup Forumstard material.
Cause /jp/ needs somewhere to tell people they don't like to fuck off to.
Eli Hernandez
>tfw when you start reading+comprehending as fast as the voice actors speak
Jack Brown
Thanks, with 20 new cards per day I'll finish it in 100 days right?
>The moment you assume you need to have a waifu or watch a given number of shows, you're already Sup Forumstard material. No one said that.
Asher Nguyen
If you know you're gonna miss the next day you can just "review ahead" or whatever it is
it messes things up a little but it's way better than just skipping a day
Liam Martin
Honestly friend, JET Is good for a short venture
but with JET there is NO Advancement. you have to be a job hopping faggot
the best thing you can do is use JET to get your foot in the door and use your spare time off work to find a better job then make like a leopard
you don't understand now, but you will.
P.S. English tutors in Japan make $50/hour, making your JET efforts all but useless.
Kevin Morris
Actually, I just got it all working. Let me know if you want the deck.
Camden Smith
Different user jumping in here.
>P.S. English tutors in Japan make $50/hour Are you for real? I mean, I'm a CS major so I won't be short on money, but if I ever hopped careers that would be it.
Is that just for good, reputable tutors, or around the median, or what?
Joseph Brown
you can do CS work as your primary job then do english tutoring as a side gig
yes, $50/hour is real. do it as your second job.
Jack Morales
Damn, that's amazing. Thanks for the info.
Brayden Sullivan
How do I delete all my stuff on Anki? I just checked and there are some stuff from my first encounter with Anki.
Josiah Scott
Format your PC
Eli Morgan
Yeah, right. Seriously, it's attached to my account.How do I do it?
Jason Robinson
By studying proper decks instead
Austin Cruz
Should be able to click on the gear menu and delete, right?
Also, what's the other radical in 五 besides 二? Jisho just lists 五 as a part and I don't know what to do. I've had this kind of thing happen for other kanji too. Sorry if this is a dumb question.
