Hey, Sup Forums

Hey, Sup Forums

things in my country are are shit,
im working my ass off but i really don't see any future.
for several reasons, i have considered moving to poland to find a better future.

how are things there? would it be worth it?

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is your country ukraine?

no

where you from, OP?

then where is so shit that you'd move to poland?

Greece

What skills do you have?

It might be worse than in your shit hole.

IT department and networks

Right now im working at a bookstore lol

you sure? at least is sunny and warm down there

Well Poland is lovely, and an upgrade for you. But in terms of finding a better future it isnt exactly prosperous. Just like most of the EU

You know life's shit when you consider moving to POLAND for a better quality of life.

Poland stinks man. No future whatsoever. People completely dumbfucked by elites, almost crazy.

I don't mind if i miss the sun or the warm weather.

I don't seek like crazy money, im okay with money i can support myself... with 450 euros here you can't do shit by yourself...that's why i live with parents yet.

I choosed Poland because as far as i've seen most polish people love their country and don't want "refugees"

Then sure, go ahead and come here - as long as you choose one of the big cities (Warsaw, Kraków, Wrocław, Poznań or Gdańsk). There's a huge deficit of IT people in Poland right now. Don't expect to be able to slack off as all of you fuckers in Greece do all the time - you'll have to work hard.

"slack off"? Greeks are some of the hardest OECD workers, according to OECD.

if you think greeks are lazy oh boy you're so mistaken

You could try Russia either, they like Greeks and have a big IT industry.

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Their alphabet is way too fucked up for me

Poland wont improve your life. Especially cause you don't speak the language.

Don't do this! Poland sucks dicks. Better move to some western Europe country, not to Poland. Ppl in poland are fucking stupid and poor as fuck. Everything is expensive as fuck and most of yer salary will be gone for just paying the fucking house, not mentioning fucking food etc. It's not worthy. More than half of yer income will be gone within first 4 days from payday and then yer fucked.

I'm willing to learn it tho..would that take long?

Man you're from Greece.. you both use Cyrillic

Yeah of course.

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Haha. Retard.

How cheap are the prostitutes in Greece? There must be a lot of desperate jobless women.

Fuck. So i'm stuck in this shithole?

That sounds shit

>at least is sunny and warm down there

Dude, it's fucking sunny and warm in Venezuela and Ethiopia.

I guess you'll be able to communicate on the basic level after ~2 years. Polish is one of the most difficult languages out there.

What if i told you 85% of prostitutes (im Athenian so i can only speak about Athens) aren't Greek?

prices go from 10E to as much as you want

take a look here bourdela.com/forum/index.php#8

Fuck it. i get it...ill never leave this place

as long as you speak english, you'll get a nice job in warsaw no problem

My English is fluent

That's so annoying. Just like London all of the prostitutes are foreign, if you find an English one she's the type that does it to get rich, not to get by, thinks she's God's gift and wants to extort you.

Op im from danmark Can you speak english and work 10 h 4 days a week ?

Co ty kurwa pierdolisz człowieku xD infozjebów wyjebało w ostatnich latach tyle, że kurwa nie ma gdzie ich wsadzić. Jeden z najbardziej obleganych kierunków na studiach i ta tendencja utrzymuje się od dawna. Jeżeli nie znasz na pamięć bibliotek php, czy C, to możesz najwyżej reinstalować software w kasach w jebanym McDonald's.

co ty kuhwa piehdolisz typie xD jakie kuhwa całki eliptyczne xD

As i already said my english is fluent.

I already work:
9 to 3, 2 days a week
8 to 5 3 days a week
8 to 3 1 day a week
7 to 5 1 day a week

Come to sweden bro, if ur able to come in ur life and ur future kids will be saved

that's not a language, that's just fucking nonsense

This is in Greek. Can you teach me a bit so I can read it?

I dont like countries who are too PC...sorry swedish

Wiesz co, od 2 lat mamy w firmie nieustającą rekrutację na juniora i seniora developera, chuj wszystko jedno jaka technologia, wyszkolimy go. Ograniczenie: mamy budżet 5k na juniora i 9k na seniora na B2B. Warszawa. Przez te 2 lata udało nam się tak znaleźć, uwaga, 3 osoby, które nie były totalnymi kretynami.

the link i gave you has english thread

just ask them if they... speak greek

Typowo. W piździec ludzi na studiach, 0 myślenia, byleby zaliczyć.. A później płacz, że ni ma pracy, brak możliwości rozwoju, za 2k nie będę pracował..

Don't go to poland. Cost of life is just fucking too big. I just moved to holland, just for short period, but I think about moving here for good. Here ye just work for a week in the worst payed job and still be able to pay for a room. Second week will give ye enough money to buy yerself food for next month and other two weeks payment are for ye... in poland hehe things looks fucking different.

F(x) dodać kuhwa delta x polskie smieci jebane! Dla Eweliny, jej chłopaka chuja jebanego polskich zwierząt! Tu dla ciebie pomarańcza skuhwysynu

I would say come and see what you'll make of Poland, in the worst case scenario to go back or move elsewhere. there's no hurt in that. yeah, some people are just jerks but it's like that anywhere I suppose

What do you mean cost of living is high? Apartment in the strict city center of Warsaw costs something like 2000-2500 PLN, a dinner out costs like 30 PLN. For 4k PLN a month you live like a king. If you're not retarded and are willing to work hard, you'll easily earn twice that.

i really can't just move back and forth because i have 0 money to waste around...

>is greek
>thinks the russian alphabet is fucked up
>the russian alphabet is half greek

Something smells fishy here

it sounds to me like you're just making excuses

if you really do know your shit, you'd have no problem getting a remote job or even some well paid freelance jobs at upwork or whatever

And how is that a problem? 99% of british porn bitches are nasty too. The ones you can jack off to come from the same countries as the fuckable prostitutes.

I've ment like a year or two ;p

1/3 of their alphabet has letters used in ours (makes sense since cyrillic alphabet was made by 2 greeks) but still the other 2/3 are like chinese to me

Because it's not the same. It was fun fucking a dirty Romanian slut for the first time, but the broken english and non smooth interactions gets annoying fast. Also they don't act like human beings, they're very cold and robotic, the experience is very boring.

no im not making excuses i just dont have time and money to waste on something that may work. Here the only people that work without knowing Greek for example, are Pakistanis who work on fields.

If you want to move to Poland, you'll have to get used to the people here. Unless you move into a big city where you'll have a variety of personality types, you're gonna experience some shit.
Poles are mostly nosy and if they smell anything wrong they'll make sure you're fucked in the whole community. Either you behave like they want or you're done. They dislike anything which differs from their point of view.
Most of poles are heavily patriotic and hate any kind of immigrants, even from the EU. Elderly people will even think of you as someone who can never be trusted and will spread false rumours about you.

As for the jobs in Poland, its difficult to get a decent one. Physical work oriented jobs could hire you, but you'll have to try hard if you want to work in an office or have any brainy job. The lowest pay here is almost impossible to sustain yourself with all the taxes that come in.

The government is shit. They only think about what's good for them. Unfortunately they get a lot of praise from the older people. Also this country is partially ruled by the polish church, that's why it's so underdeveloped compared to other European countries.

TL;DR shit people, shit pay and shit life. A type of country you'd rather move out of.

Yes, they're annoying, I agree. To the point you want to beat them up.

just YOLO bruh

Underdeveloped compared to what?

don't come to Poland we have enough of you slackers, but if you do we'll beat you up, fuck you right in the ass and take everything you have

No not that kind of annoying. It's just an annoying experience in general. The few times I've met English girls on the street it's been fun and they are actually human.

Germany, Nordics, Benelux, even other slavic countries. They moved on after the iron curtain fell. Poland is still one foot there. Many people here miss the commie rule and People's Republic of Poland

Well. I am speaking out of experience too. It pisses me off.

Dont come here, we fucking hate immigrants you cyka blyat

You should move to Macedonia. Skopje is a great town and the girls are way hotter. Alexander the Great is from there.

Fuck I've been thinking about the same thing. I'm from Russia and considering moving to Poland as well. Russia is a complete shithole and even Poland has better quality of life and real perspectives.
Why god punished me so hard and I was born in Russia? I wake up every day with this thought in mind lol. Why?

Czech rep. maybe and of course it's not as developed as the west. You are listing the richest countries in the world. You can't expect a former communist country to be on that level yet. And... none of them are.

I'm living in Poland right now and only considering moving to Norway, as life here is getting worse everyday, we pay huge taxes, the food is expensive, insurance companies are robbing us from every penny, retirement fonds are partialy seized by country - if you consider moving here mark my words Poland is a shithole even if you work in IT (l'm an it admin myself)

>Alexander the Great is from there.

Croatia. Slovenia. Bosnia. Latvia and Lithuania. They're all blooming. I cant expect them to be advanced, sure, but poland is behind the rest of post-communist countries, both mentally and technologically. The progress was partially slowed down by the manipulative church. After a pole became the pope everyone couldn't shut up how religious they are, even if they weren't. Just because one of us was world famous.

Kirill, Metodious and their students were Bulgarian and Macedonian from Ohrid. They weren't Greek.

Why not Germany? That's where all the jobs and money are.

Yea they can be rude too. Are you American? How much do you pay?

Bosnia? Don't make me laugh. That country is poorer than Albania and Croatia isn't on the level of Poland either. Besides, the rest are tiny countries that developed quickly with EU injections. It's not that hard when your population is 2-3 million vs 40 million of Poland.

No. Dutch. 50 euros.

I agree with you. I am Pole who moved out of Poland 16 years ago to UK and will not consider moving back there for any kind of money. I don't like the mentality of Poles their "pretence" to be religious or being patriotic. I like UK because no one gets into your way and work wise it is great. If you work hard you get recognised and move up in your career ladder. No one stabs you in the back and team work is excellent. I don't want to generalise because many people who I know are doing okay in Poland but I just never fitted in. I don't want to stay in UK and considering moving further to Canada for slightly better quality of life. I am a technology consultant so my prospects in North America are quite okay.

I'll quickly tell you how it is.
If you want to live in Poland, then rent a house in the suburbs. Upper middle class earns 5000 PLN, but 1200 PLN goes to the retirement fund. Suburbs are very cheaps and so are shops (don't listen to assholes who say that shops are expensive). Even in the biggest touristic locations, average dinner in the restaurant costs like 20 PLN.
There is 23% VAT.
Poland is generally the most developed and the fastest growing post-communist country.
Don't expect people to be jerks. 97% of our country is Polish, so any foreigners are viewed as exotic and you'll be welcome.
Good luck.

This: youtu.be/0RdSNDo56Kg

Too much for a dirty whore. I pay £30 for 15 minutes, and no they're not ugly. 10 or 20 if it's on the street but I don't do that any more.

My point is that polish aren't even trying to keep up. Also they're entitled and think they deserve praise and shit for apparently the smallest things they do. The government is already trying to pull us back instead of making progress.

5000 PLN. Upper middle. Co ty kurwa. You'd need your own company to earn that. On average people make 2300 PLN here

OP here

Let's leave the language thing aside for now.
Im really confused.. Half of you say ill be okay if i move there since im a foreigner, the others say ill be backstabbed by locals. half say with 2000 PLN you live like a king and the others say you dont

wtf guys

Thats how it twerks in here :D

welcome to Poland.

Welcom to Poland - KURWA!

from 0 to 10 how much would it be worth it to come there?

im willing to work like a dog, im willing to die for your country if i i ever need to. i admire polish people, ive had polish immigrant friends with me and they are very good guys

from my experience I can say if you're single you need to earn at least 4K a month to live - half of this you will spend on rent so you'll have 2K for 30 days which is 66PLN/DAY - I spend half of this money daily cooking by myself, and rest on beer

Faggot you'd technically be a immigrant trying to get a better life

People will be amused by you and should like you. Unless you're tan and look like a sandnigger. Then they'll harass you even if you try to be nice

The immigrant friends are nice because they aren't like the rest of poles. They moved out for a reason - an average pole would prefer to stay in the country because patriotism. Only the different ones think about moving out

if you want to just live for a day, sure why the fuck not move in to Poland, if you're more future oriented (retirement and shit like that) then stay away from Poland and move to Germany

Is your country Romania?