So can we agree at this point that black people are held to a lower standard, musically?

So can we agree at this point that black people are held to a lower standard, musically?

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no

Wrong place to ask that question. /moo/ loves bbc music

Do you want to talk about the album or do you just want a Sup Forums thread?

no theres just nothing for whites to say. weve been hearing their voices and everyone elses has been supressed for the past 100s of years

trap music is held at the same standard as coffee shop indie music, just placed in different decades

>Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate
>Imma gonna shake skake shake shake shake
>Wins three grammys. Wins album of the year
Yeah you're right OP white artists are judged so harshly out here.

No

I realise this is bait but you should still probably kill yourself

>hating taylor swift

Kill yourself you fucking virgin faggot

I kinda like that song desu

Is this the go to album for "See everyone I like black music!"

this. it's basically the same amount of talent required

Jesus Christ.
I love hip hop but I do think you have a point.
That album was basically trash

Fuck yeah I love that song.

youtube.com/watch?v=li3NRPrecVg

only virgins, high schoolers, or guys with 1-2 notches still use virgin as an insult

real registered sexhavers with 10+ assume that everyone else has at least 2-3, and those are the unskilled ones

just thought you should know. stick to "faggot"

I'm not saying black people can't make good music, I'm saying their bad music is consistently ranked higher than it should be

Rude. I'm just tryna have a conversation

>grammys

Not the album in particular, I just used it as an example

Seems like it

>only virgins, high schoolers, or guys with 1-2 notches still use virgin as an insult

Nope. Only virgins think that

Fuck off to Sup Forums to get your shitty answer you faggot. Sup Forums is a liberal board

Awards in general for music very clearly get awarded to the artist that appeals to the lowest common denominator the most.

Bonus points if you're a woman or colored in any way whatsoever.

Music awards really are a meme unless you are at a grassroots battle of the bands, in which case they actually don't matter

Pitchfork is the best music publication around.

What else are you going to read? Tiny Mix Tapes, The Wire, Rolling Stone? Hahahaha

>black music!
huh?

If a white dude released Jeffery would it get an 8.5?

Or maybe because it's a good album that many people from all races enjoyed? And has nothing to do with some Jewish conspiracy to kill white people

he's not really being racist in any way though. being unwilling to discuss it in any manner only perpetuates liberal stereotypes and makes all of us leftys look worse

>Tiny Mix Tapes, The Wire
yeah ill read those instead thankyou

They are braindead monkeys, you can't expect much.

cuck.

cuck?

Nowadays even reddit is less cucked than 4chins. Did all the cucks come here and left reddit?
Seems like it.

youtube.com/watch?v=3x3g8BGH_io
>good
>good
>good
>good

Yes he is. He's saying that black people get higher ratings simply for being black. There's no reason to entertain this retard

>The Wire
>not just as blatantly poptimist as Pitchfork while simaltaneously pretending to be experimental by jerking off some Taiwanese limited edition power electronics casssette

now it's started

>liberal
>love to suppress free speech
bingo. Off yourself niggerlover.

>muh freze peaches

you realize free speech doesn't apply on a private website you retard?

do they not though? not that i really give a shit about pitchfork but that seems to be the trend

You still can't deny that it's good though

>suppress free speech
you're retarded

>implying anyone on Sup Forums gives a shit what you say
what has this place become

Sup Forums has always been a liberal board from it's inception you dumb newfag poltard

Wait a sec niggerlover. You talk about """liberal""" site, but then you turn 180 degrees and yap about private website?
Off yourself soon cuck.

No but it would probably win a grammy just like Maklemore did for his thrift shop bullshit. Different entities have different standards for which music they choose to praise. P4K seems to be focused on what is hot on the streaming charts. This is perfectly rational from a buisiness perspective.
>BUT THEY SHOULD BE OBJECTIVE!!!
That concept literally does not exist within this context.

i dont even go on pol. why are you so opposed to discussing things that isn't just album hype threads and mumor

Niggermusic is shit.
Listen to any jazz album its shit. It's just monkeys tooting and hitting drums like spastics.

Highly annoying, especially with my above average intelligence I feel annoyed by this coonshit.

THIS IS A LIBERAL WEBSITE
STOP HAVING A OPINION DIFFERENT FROM MINE!!!!!

this man. like im a liberal person but vehemently hating everyone without the same exact opinion as me accomplishes nothing

this isn't pol fuck off you losers

You're retarded lol. lrn2 reading comprehension you inbred white trash trailer park resident

Why can't any of these self-professed liberals have a discussion about race like normal people without resorting to name calling? This is just silly

That's funny because the rightists call everyone they disagree with "cuck".

it's a polarized world we live in man
he didn't say anything about his political views or call you a cuck

>he didn't say anything about his political views or call you a cuck

Come back here once you finish high school english.

why is this board so god damn mad about everything

shut the fuck up before I kill you

:^(

We've always been a politically neutral board and are sick of shit taste trump supporters and alt righters coming here and diverting the topics.

I respect that, it's not like I voted for trump man. But if you're politically neutral why is everyone so quick to delve into name calling and vitriol, on either side.

Pitchfork is the Huffington Post of music

Sup Forums is the asshole of the internet

I don't understand what /pol has to do with this.

this. blaming pol for mu being shit is lazy and only makes retarded righties hate retarded lefties more.

one of the standouts. nice track!

this confirms why mu is the worst board. all contrarian faggots who listen to the same 10 albums over and over again. Go listen to radiohead some more if you dont like rap. Young thug is the greatest rapper alive and is a great musician. in fact it could have even been rated higher.

liking huffington post or pitchfork makes you a retard faggot.

>greatest rapper alive
I dont dislike Young Thug but this is blatantly not true

nice straw man, al chapo

Is this your first album you are having trouble getting into?
Instead of listening you are being racist for the "hehe i trroled you im not actually from pol :)" and the edgy redditors who write :^(

it might not be accepted as fact yet, but it will be true soon enough.

okay

>makes an actual statement about how rappers could be unfairly rated from a rather bial website
>"hehe Sup Forums much you racist :)"

They aren't unfairly rated. P4k gave it the average score

You realize it's 82/100 on metacritc?

>I'm saying their bad music is consistently ranked higher than it should be

just stop my guy
this is a thinly veiled race bait thread

i don't know why pol has been trying to shitpost here so much as of late but it's getting old

please just make a nazi/white nationalist music thread and stick to that, at least that's actual music discussion and sharing instead of a sorry excuse to call people cucks and niggers

Well clearly he got a 1.6/10 because he's half white

Why did OP start off a thread with "black people are held to a lower standard, musically" as opposed to "RAPPERS are held to a lower standard, musically?" There are rappers of all different backgrounds, you know.

still gave it the highest rating, and i still disagree with the overall rating for the album. But i digress, saying hes from pol because hes noticed a trend and wants to open up discussion on it. That dosnt make him racist or from pol, it just makes him curious about something he noticed and dislikes.

Why is Sup Forums a bunch of whiny liberals

I mean I know why, I just wish it wasn't.

Rap is overrated garbage. Most black music is overrated garbage. That's not racism, that's hearing.

Maybe he thinks its with all forms of music and these types of websites not wanting to offend anyone or cause controversy of people throwing a shit fit and saying they ranked it badly cause hes black, so the give all black artist better scores, not saying its true but you cant just go throwing around calling him racist for something hes curious about.

>Rap is overrated garbage
why

>Most black music is overrated garbage
why

>That's not racism, that's hearing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing

Nope, it's the album that proves that black people can compose symphonically as good as white guys, even if they have no formal training.

>still gave it the highest rating

Yeah and? They gave Boniver one of the highest ratings too

It's really not a "trend". They've panned plenty of black albums and praised plenty of white albums

I mean I agree with you but they aren't really good "compositions".

mu is definitely left leaning, but the thing you're refusing to see is that you want a thread to circlejerk your ideologies and not one to discuss music, whereas the people who frequent this board actually want to discuss music (and the board memes)

i mean really, how was this thread supposed to go?
"yeah op, now that i think about it black people are held to a lower standard! damn now that i've really thought about it im going to delete all my rap albums because it's objectively inferior"

the reason people say you're pol for threads like this is because you all stick out like a sore thumb, it's not a genuine question as to why young thug got a high score on pitchfork, because you dont care about that at all. you just wanted to say black people are held to a lower standard and that black music is overrated garbage.
and when people call you out on it and say you're being retarded you flip and call them cucks and niggerlovers

gee it's almost like the libcucks on mu arent the ones shutting down discussion or something

what if you just did the math, and calculated P4ks averages for white and black music albums, and then compared them to industry averages for white and black music albums, and try to see if there's a significant difference between them?

or would you rather race bait and "argue" about this because this is what what you like reading about for some reason. this same tired argument over and over.

Considering they innovated one of the most complex genres of music, no,

>filled with hooks about identity, love and that undefinable future swag
i guess presenting "identity and love" as the main topics in the lyrics makes it sound a lot more profound and mature than focusing on the ones that say "only here for one night, let me put it on your face" or "i fuck on your baby mama, let's fuck on your baby mama"

no offense to young thug fans, but this album is garbage

>what if you just did the math, and calculated P4ks averages for white and black music albums, and then compared them to industry averages for white and black music albums, and try to see if there's a significant difference between them?

I dunno man, why don't you do that for me then we can have a discussion.

>Black's are genetically inferior to whites. That's not racism, that's science.

>you just wanted to say black people are held to a lower standard and that black music is overrated garbage.

and to add something to this point it's extremely transparent when you focus on calling it "black music" as opposed to the actual genre of music, whether it be rap/hip-hop as a whole or it's subgenres

like come the fuck on if you think people are going to actually entertain this shit and not just call you out for what your game really is

I don't think that they're structurally good, in the sense that usually the music sections get interrupted abruptly (but that was due to the editing more than anything else), but armonically and melodically it's great.
These are basically jazz symphonies, and although they are not as good as what the best composers did they're still some of the most original and consistent compositions of this century.

yes. absolutely. i don't think many people understood what op meant. I'm black and constantly seeing dindu rap get high praise because it's "progressive" to give every black artist on earth good ratings is embarrassing. makes me feel like im a lesser human

Kind of Blue is better than anything betthoven or mozart ever did so next time use that as the example

you know what, that's not the worst idea. I would almost literally go find your evidence for you, write it up, and present it to you neatly in a bundle so that you can real talking points in this discussion i want no part of. That sounds like a fun, elaborate way to make you look stupid and learn something all at the same time :)

see

Why are you comparing Jazz and Classical music? They're completely divorced from each other, and Jazz makes use of modes much more creatively than the vast majority of classical composers did (not that I'm shitting on classical, I love Baroque and Romantic music, but classical music has a completely different set of "rules" compared to Jazz).

it feels like being given a participation medal or a mom praising her kids shitty performance. it comes from a place of privilege and is done more for the critic's image than for any actual appreciation for the music

wew

It gets high ratings because people enjoy the fucking music.

chive on!

whoa, slow your roll, roll man. Miles Davis is without question a real G, but can he run with the original gangstas like Beeast Hova and Moz?

>this thread

>makes me feel like im a lesser human
that's cause you are

Dont give me any of that shit
Answer, is this your first hard to get into album?