Hey Sup Forums what should I write my thesis on? I'm starting up grad school soon and I'd like to have a game plan ready. I'm really interested in...
>Shakespeare
>Waiting for Godot
>T.S. Elliot's The Wasteland
>Fahrenheit 451
>Cloud Atlas (pretty recent idk how that one would work)
>Beowulf
>Pretty much any kind of British and Irish Lit.
Hey Sup Forums what should I write my thesis on...
You should write it on Mikhail Bulgakov. Get to it
>grad school
>English lit.
So you dont expect to do anything but teach huh?
Nah that's what I wanna do, teach.
Good luck that is what all the english lit grad students want to do. Oh sorry all they can do
How does it feel knowing that no one respects you?
If you manage to find an interesting and unique angle on Shakespeare, that automatically makes an interesting thesis, since it's almost impossible to do that these days.
Maybe something like comparing Shakespeare to parodies of Shakespeare and considering the literary value of derivative work such as that. The fact that Shakespeare has had maybe the single biggest impact on literature and the English language out of everyone makes for an interesting view of the almost cyclic nature of work that deliberately copies or parodies it.
I'll take...
>what is editing
>what is publishing
>what is journalism
>what is law/civil service
>what is advertising
...for $1,000.
En English degree is one of the most versatile degrees. Me? I teach. (Yep I do.) But friends of mine with English degrees pursued careers in all of the above....except advertising. No one I know went into that.
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Sure thing champ.
>mfw im in journalism and no one hires an English major let alone a masters holder
Well I know people who have gotten those jobs with English degrees, so maybe it's just your rinky-dink, one-horse-town's little local paper that won't hire them. Idunno, user...
You can't go into law or civil service with a Literature degree. I'd question advertising and journalism too. An English Language degree with appropriate specialisation, sure.
Oh we are talking about straight english degrees?
I meant english lit man
Like i posted here
Hold on a second...
First of all, I was referring to an English degree (not necessarily a grad degree in lit) being an excellent foundation for law school.
Of course you can't practice law with an English degree. Silly user...
But you can absolutely work in a law office with an English degree. You'll be behind a computer though.
I guess I'm not familiar with how getting a degree works in the USA. I have no idea what you mean by "getting an English degree as a foundation for law school", and I don't know what a "grad degree" is.
Here I would have to choose exactly what English degree I would want (Literature, Language, Journalism, etc) before I applied and once I'd applied I wouldn't be able to change my mind.
How can you just start getting an "english degree" and then somehow use that to go into law? America makes no sense.
Law school doesnt require a prerequisite degree.
You can have any undergrad (or bachelor 4year) and go to law school you just have to have a good gpa and a good lsat score. My buddy went to law school with a philosphy degree, and im thinking about going and i have a mass comm degree.
Also you can change majors at any time in the states but you still have to do the course work for the major.
It makes perfect sense. Let's just stick with law school for right now...
In the U.S., you don't just go to law school fresh out of high school. You need to get your 4-year undergraduate degree first and it can be in virtually anything but usually it's in philosophy, business, or English. Once you get that degree, you can start applying to law schools.
Of the three, English is probably the best choice for a "pre-law" undergrad. Law is heavy in reading, writing, and researching.
Or you know taking pre law
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The Spelling and Grammatical Errors of Mein Kampf: First Edition
I guess I just don't get what a "degree in English" is. There's just no such thing over here. It's like saying a "degree in Science". Is that a thing in the USA as well?
Is it something to do with "choosing a major"? Like, you get an English degree but your major is Literature or Journalism or whatever?
Not that user, but you could work with the school to tailor an English Degree with an emphasis in Law Studies.
You can get a pure english degree here and it is kinda worthless
Write an essay on how difficult it is to master a McDonalds cash register.
That's such bullshit but I'll just let you believe that kek
it's complicated
billions and billions are served
Solent green and the impact that chinese and pakistan populus are like freaking roaches and they are eating all the resources of this planet unless you elect trump and he will launch the nukes and.it will kill them like a can of Raid
he said "thesis" not a demonstration in autism
Kek i know right.
Kek prove me wrong without anecdotal evidence of your "friends". English degrees only pan out if going into grad school, law school, or if you networked enough and found a job that just wants insert miscellaneous degree
Maybe you should write something about the correlation between english lit. Degrees and food service employees.
>reading
>writing
>researching
pfft how worthless those skills are
It doesn't fucking matter. What a waste of a degree.
>Getting a PhD to teach others to get a PhD to teach others to get a PhD to teach others to get a PhD...
And the cycle of uselessness continues...
oh Jesus faggot tell me you're not going to hijack this thread into a god-tier shit-tier degree circlejerk
You get that with literally any college degree. Why not choose one that has some actual career prospects?
I think I like it better over here. Right from the start you apply to study exactly what you want, down to incredibly specific things.
I could apply to study Astrophysics or Journalism or Robotics Engineering or Equine Business Management or Aeronautics or Landscape Architecture and know for a fact that I will end up with a degree in exactly that thing in three or four years.
I couldn't just apply for "English" or "Engineering". They just don't exist.
>implying a company will take an english major over a specific major
We need another journalist bob.
Ok we have two guys on went to j-school, one is an English major.
Bob, you dolt why even bother with the emgliah major?
Or
Hey bob we need a technical writer.
Ok we have a guy versed in engineering who can understand what we build and has shown proficiency in writing or the english major who excels in writing but doesnt understand what we do?
Come on bob.
Shakespeare for romance issues
Waiting for godot social issues
Wasteland/Fahrenheit for utopian dystopian issues
Cloud atlas and Beowulf for journey and discovery
Always go by topic, these are your supporting texts
English is the only one like that bud
Write an essay titled "At Least I'm Not a Womyn's Studies Major".
So in physics and art history you get semester-long courses on...
>English grammar and mechanics
>Literary analysis and close-reading
>English composition (not the one you take as a gen. ed)
? No. You don't. You just read and write and think you're doing it right, but you're probably not. It's probably just "good enough." There are plenty of professions (see list above) where "good enough" isn't good enough.
I went to law school with it.
Most of my friends with the same degree have decent careers, if they took a minor in something business/computer related.
English majors know how to write. It's a shrinking skill.
Fuck off, you roundy baldy headed twat
jesus who the fuck writes on literature? what are you going to do after? write porn stories for sale?
This guy knows what's up!
How was law school? I was *this* close to going to law school myself but decided that teaching was more my thing. Still kind of wish I went though.
Did a 17k page analysis for my Masters Degree it was a Citation index for Chaucer's Canterbury Tales all the history and information was at my feet because I live in Canterbury so had access to many many old books to cite from and compare to other accounts of the tales... took me almost 5 months to complete it to the point I felt it was ready.
My Professor probably never even read past page 500 But he was seriously surprised with it all.
Pic related my home town, Canterbury.
That's pretty sick actually
>How was law school?
As has been observed above, a good English degree honours level, means you can read quickly and get the arguments and themes quickly, write quickly and in an organized fashion with less editing, and have good research skills. These are the skills that most lawyers need most, especially to get through law school where you'll have to read many long decisions and distill them to their key elements to compare and contrast with each other, and to extract the approach with which to apply to other cases or fact situations.
So, if you've done well in an English degree and have a good LSAT score, then you have the academic skills and tools needed to do well in law school.
The hardest part of becoming a lawyer is getting into law school. When you're in should have all you need to get through it.
Teaching is fine if you enjoy it. It's a calling too. There are good and bad teachers just like there are good and bad lawyers. If you're happy/satisfied with what you're doing then you made a good choice.
That shit is covered in high school.
>But the college version is extra super advanced
You're delusional.
>There are professions that need good writers
There are degrees that focus on each of those professions. Companies will take candidates with those over someone who has an English degree every time. Most won't even consider a candidate with an English degree. If they're desperate enough to consider an English major, there's probably a good reason for it (shit pay, shit management, etc.).
>That shit is covered in high school
...
>be me
>high school English teacher
...
No. It's not.
>be me
>former high school student
Yes, it is.
user, this thread has devolved into whether a lit degree is worth taking, and whether uni is worth anything at all, and lots of shitposting of course.
I don't know why, if you're serious, you are asking this on Sup Forums. Go to /lit/ at least.
>And the cycle of uselessness continues...
Yep, might just as well enter the quaternary sector and get to be bored and miserable too
Write it in the style Karl would speak it
>All right kids take out your copy of Christina Rossetti's "Goblin Market." We're going to jump on JSTOR and finish up our 16-page surveys of literature with no fewer than 8 academic and annotated sources.
The last time your high school teacher had you do something like that? Never. But I'm sure a former high school student knows more about what high school teachers teach than, y'know, an actual high school teacher
Write a thesis about hairy chinese kids
Yes, those are the only two choices in life.
>useless English major
>bored and miserable
Seriously, nigger?
Nice thanks for this post. I do like teaching, a lot actually. I think I made the right choice. I live vicariously through my lawyer friends and that's enough for me.
But then.......how would I know which one was me?
All I mean is. If he's writing like me, thinking like me, right? How would I know that I was the real me? 'Cause he'd be writing stuff that I would say, and I'd say "That sounds like something I'd say" and he'd say "Yeah, I know."
Giving me flashbacks. Except the JSTOR part. Had to look that up. Back then, the internet was barely even a thing. Do they not make kids do this shit now? Damn, this country really is getting dumber.
Terrible b8 is terrible. The most you did in high school was a 4-5 page paper with a "works cited" page. There's no fucking way you did a 16-page survey of literature with annotated bib.
I'm done.
It was either an AP class in high school or one of the retarded gen ed classes I had to take while getting my god-tier engineering degree. Call it bait if you want, I don't give a shit, but it happened.
>claims to be a high school english teacher
>hasn't even started grad school
calling bullshit
>engineering degree
Topkek
I learned how to like, build shit in woodshop.
>I learned how to like, build shit in woodshop.
Graduated/Certified Dec. of 2015. You can call bullshit all you want, but it's the troof, user.
A teacher has ~6 years to get their masters. You know that, right?
Only the lowest of the shit tier schools hire teachers without a masters. You aren't a teacher, you're either a tard wrangler or a nigger wrangler.
What? Do they not teach kids how to build things anymore? We built an enormous wooden bridge that crossed the Connecticut River. We designed it ourselves and built it. It was featured in magazines and stuff. It's still there actually. I drive across it every week.
I'm a teacher. Sorry to break it to you. Might even be your teacher...
>underage b&
They have to pay teachers with masters degrees more money, which they don't like to do by the way. You're literally talking about things you don't know anything about.
Of course they don't like to, but they'll do it if they don't want to be labelled shit tier. If you really are a teacher, then your school obviously doesn't care. Therefore, it is shit tier.