What are Sup Forumss thoughts on Charlie Brooker?

What are Sup Forumss thoughts on Charlie Brooker?

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that is the ugliest lesbian I've seen all day

stop looking at your mum then

Used to make fun of media bullshit, now he's part of it.

Went full Guardian SJW.

Lawrence Fishburne got transracial surgery and a cheap wig.

Also, get the fucking finger out on more Black Mirror.

Only word that comes to mind is "cunt", I consider him in the same crowd as that unfunny dickhead Stewart Lee.

I'll be honest, I don't know how fair that assessment is.

>[citation needed]

I know he used to do a column for the Guardian but I don't recall him coming across as an SJW.

kek

Does he consciously identify as a leftist SJW feminist? Has he ever taken a public stance on feminism.

Wow, you just have the shittest taste.

The guy's speaking loosely because he's a bit dim. Basically Brooker used to spend a lot of time mocking celebrities, but not so much anymore. He explained somewhere, I forget if in an article or on a show, that he found it hard to keep doing that now that he's professionally obliged to regularly meet people in that position.

The "SJW" thing specifically, I dunno. He's pretty liberal and whatnot, but I'm not an edgy teenager so that's not a problem for me. I remember he has spoken dismissively of social-media-based moralising.

>shittest taste.

Not really, "political" "humour" in the style of saying-an-opinion-the-audience-agrees-with just isn't appealing to me.

>Not really

Yeah, really.

He's gone downhill ever since he got married and had a child, but consider he married Connie Huq I can't blame him in the slightest.

Every now and again I'll watch every episode of Screenwipe and the world seems better.

shut the fuck up and go read the guardian and prep your wifes bull you fucking cuck

Hey, I already said I don't know if the assessment is fair, but if you're saying the brand of humour of literally saying something the audience agrees with is somehow patrician you're probably a retarded Guardianista

>i already said i have literally no idea what i'm talking about, but if you're saying something you're clearly not saying then something something The Guardian

OK then, good chat.

DEL BOY STEW

>that salty left-wing venom

I can feel the heat of your frustration through my laptop screen m80

>muh dystopia

Hack.

Newswipe was great too

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>if your setting is the future you are bad

why bother breathing?

Last good thing he did imo was "How TV Ruined Your Life", six half-hour shows about pretty much everything

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Strikes me as a poor-man's Chris Morris with an agenda, but I don't really give a shit about BBC luvvies desu

Fuck off Charlie, you're a hack.

He actually wrote for Brasseye and worked with Morris on Nathan Barley.

Stewart Lee is capable of being funny he's just a bit of a cock (I know it's all part of it, I'm not smart enough).

It really was.

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Nathan Barley was so ahead of its time. It may not have been the funniest but it predicted so many things.

>i fantasise about meaning something to someone
>anyone

That's a shame.

>being this retarded

I still like him. He has become sanitised, but at least he gave us Adam Curtis, and Filomena Cunk.

Should have been hired to write the Robocop remake with Neil Boomclap directing.

> Nathan Barley

Morrisfags at the time hated Nathan Barley, we thought it was watered down Chris Morris at best, like he was doing something deliberately mainstream

Now people consider it based as hell

>writing articles crying about online misogyny
>putting Anita Sarkeesian in his video game show
>not a Guardian SJW

I can see that you're in a state of incoherent rage, go read the HuffPost for a few minutes and calm down

DUDE FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

>Morrisfags at the time hated Nathan Barley

Yeah I found it disappointing at the time, but I came to appreciate it on a rewatch. I was a fan of Brooker's TV reviews but wasn't aware of the history of Nathan Barley with the trashbat.co.ck stuff.

[citation needed]

when did he say that?

>He was outside the mainstream and his content was authentic and had an interesting angle
>Gained popularity and essentially became what he was initially criticising.
>Hypocrites don't get no respect.

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>he is successful
>i dont like him

>circumstances and perspective change
>hypocrite

Man it was a weird time in retrospect. I read TV Go Home back in the day (I think I found out about it via the old NTK email newsletter, fuck knows) and years later when Nathan Barley was announced as the new Chris Morris project people thought Morris was over

I still remember thinking how weird it was that a Chris Morris project was actually advertised

Successful yes, but does he still uphold the valid criticisms of the celebrity culture he used to make? Something tells me he's softened his approach now that he's mingling with them.

Only a hypocrite by his initial work, of course. If you think that his initial work has no valid points or moral basis, then sure, you could consider it a perspective change. But if you actually agreed with what he used to criticise about TV and how he's now apart of that problem, maybe you'd call him a hypocrite too.

>Only a hypocrite by his initial work, of course.

No, dude, you're using the word 'hypocrite' wrong. If I used to be an atheist and then became a Christian, I'm not 'a hypocrite'. I'm someone who's changed their mind. You see?

he uses the expression "a bunch of white people" as a pejorative term in almost every episode.

>not SJW i swear!

>If you think that his initial work has no valid points or moral basis, then sure, you could consider it a perspective change. But if you actually agreed with what he used to criticise about TV and how he's now apart of that problem, maybe you'd call him a hypocrite too.

k.

>No, dude, you're using the word 'hypocrite' wrong.

>Nathan Barley

Could somebody explain what makes this program so good or whatever? Why do people like it so much?

>Hypocrites don't get no respect.
>don't get no

So...they get respect?

He used to be alright then he went a bit SJW and hasn't been the same since he got married

Because it's Chris Morris. If Chris Morris makes something it's amazing.

How dare you question that.

This.

He's married to Konnie Huq by the way (the former Blue Peter presenter).

It mostly rests on the classic trope of the successful idiot versus the talented failure. If you buy that, or at least, if you buy this instance of it, you're more or less sold.

People get a bit wanky over the possibly-maybe semi-autobiographical aspects of the Dan-Dan-the-preacher-man stuff, I'll grant you. But wankers just wanky over stuff, fish gotta swim.

this guy was my idol when I was around 20.

When he started doing his weekly wipes is when I think I went off him slightly. just seemed to have lost his edge, ran out of things to say. He went from the cynical commentator to the family man.

He has got more progressive it seems, he says something like 90% of all TV is made for me,I think he was talking about page 3 or something.

Black Mirror is great though
rewatching Screenwipes is always comfy.

Ouch.

the black mirror episode 15 million merits episode was like an allegory for charlie brooker himself

once he used to question media narratives and the trivial nonsense in the news but as soon as he became part of the left wing media elite, he stopped caring.

whats wrong with his face?

Acne scars, I think.

It's mostly remembered now for being insanely fucking prescient. He was doing vlogs and social networking before it was a thing.

If there's any proof of Time Travel it's Charlie "wouldn't it be funny if the prime minister fucked a pig" Brooker

We should've seen it coming really. He points out a similar progressions in other figures on his old screenwipe, when he mentions the film Network. He was so cynical he didn't exclude himself, he was never 'rebel for life'.

Not sure what else he could've done really, shun mainstream telly? retreat to podcasts or something, end up recycling the same commentary over and over with a small audience?

He made the right choice for himself he now gets to create Tv shows like Black Mirror.

Konnie is pretty based though.

She did a Sup Forums hangout for King of the Nerds.

Better yet, he should have maintained outwardly that nothing had ever changed and he was still the outsider boy etc. And the plebs whinging ITT would probably have bought it.

WELL FUTILE

This. I also think that's the best Black Mirror episode thus far.

yeah, I'm aware when we call him an outsider, it was always relative (an outsider compared to other TV stuff).

He got a show on BBC three, he can't really be a full outsider to do that. He even pointed that out at times

>merits >white xmas >be right back >tehoy >white bear >national anthem >waldo moment

thats mine anyway

>tehoy >white bear >15MM > white xmas >national anthem >waldo moment

I'd have White Bear level with TEHOY but it falls down on repeat viewability. Made me think of every comment-thread war I've seen with various keyboard commandos one-upping each other over exactly how brutally certain criminals should be murdered etc.

I'd have White Xmas higher, too, but it wasn't equivocal enough, if you get me. The egg thing was just too obviously literal slavery, I couldn't see anyone deciding it was OK. Very enjoyable, though.

Birth marks, used to have makeup to cover them but I guess he doesn't give a damn now

you forgot be right back

Lee's funniest material is his non political stuff

Shit, I did. Somewhere in the middle, I guess.

watched it again last night and it really made me emotional, she acted the fuck out of it too

I don't doubt that, his political material leaves a lot of room for his other stuff to be funnier, I guess I've just never come across the latter

Why do you take pride in being retarded?

The thing about Lee's work is that it all melds together, so when he's complaining about getting old or whatever it's usually thematically tied to whatever political issue he was talking about fifteen minutes before that. His sets are surprisingly dense yes, that's a set-up for the Lee-hater so he can feel clever, it's all he wants, the poor lad.

Why do you find joy in writing vague and masturbatory posts on a mongolian shit-sniffing imageboard?

>yes, that's a set-up for the Lee-hater so he can feel clever, it's all he wants, the poor lad.

Do Leefags make a habit of writing incoherent insults?

No, but Lee-bashers seem to have difficulty reading and understanding simple English sentences.

It might not be so bad if his political "comedy" was something more than stating a political opinion in front of a sympathetic audience. Y'know, maybe if it was I dunno funny or something

So what the fuck do you mean by it being a "set-up", and how does calling his sets "dense" constitute a "set-up"?

>proud retard detected

Used to love his stuff. Funny as fuck. Especially TV wipe, Newswipe and Gameswipe is pretty nostalgic already.

Sadly he got married and became a turboSJW. Hasn't made a good show since. DId he even do a Review of the Year this year. I didn't watch it if he did.

DESIGNATED

>Thread about a good writer/comedian turns into discussion about Stewart Lee

Shame

Have you ever actually watched one of his sets, dude? I mean, I can think of a couple of examples of what you're probably talking about, but the comedy lies in the phrasing and the context, like the line about 'the innate racism' of the Tory party at the end of the political correctness routine.

>his sets are surprisingly dense
>yep heheh they're dense heheh like him heheh and like the people who like him heheh very dense indeed heheh

I suppose I overestimated you. I'll not make that mistake twice.

>turboSJW

this has been claimed throughout this thread but Im yet to see a shred of evidence. Is it just because his wife is brown?

So you thought you could apply the word "dense" (in the meaning, used exclusively for people, of "stupid") to an abstract concept in order to invite a double meaning to the phrase "his sets are surprisingly dense". Wow, you're fucking dense.

No no. I seem to remember his Review of the Year for I think 2014 pissing me off. I don't remember why.

He is a liberal and he's basically pro-diversity or whatever. When Sup Forumstards say "SJW" they really basically mean anyone who's not a Sup Forumstard. And yeah, he's not a Sup Forumstard, so big-time SJW, basically.

>i literally don't understand how puns work
>my opinion on this stand-up comedian is worthwhile and should be listened to

Love Black Mirror, he wrote a funny piece for last week's The New Yorker. In a rush so no greentext:

Dancing. Ban dancing. Break its legs and bury it. And don’t make me do it. Don’t make me dance. Jesus, the indignity. I’d sooner defecate on live TV than dance at your wedding.

I vaguely remember my first visit to a night club; must’ve been around 1988. I was seventeen and sober; the music was shockingly loud and my limbs had no idea what was expected of them. I tried to join in, but it was immediately clear that this was a physical language I was never going to grasp. A hundred years later and nothing has changed. People who dance voluntarily are unknowably alien to me. I don’t relate.

See, I’m awkward at the best of times. Expecting me to coördinate my movements in time to music, in what amounts to an unofficial public assessment of perceived sexual competence, is astronomically cruel. Push me onto the dance floor and I’m like a pig repeatedly losing its footing, a malfunctioning distress signal made flesh.

Dancing forces me to engage with corporeal reality. I resent it for that. Having to endure any kind of physical existence whatsoever alarms and annoys me. There are things out there that you can bang your knee on. And haircuts. You have to get haircuts. Again and again and again. It’s relentless. It’s awful. I can’t wait till some alcoholic research scientist unleashes the nanobot horde and we all get knitted into a single, superintelligent sentient gas with no dividing lines or toenails. Until then, I’m stuck here, awkward and clumsy and not knowing what to do with my face, let alone my arms and legs. So please don’t make me dance. When my parents celebrated their golden wedding anniversary, I refused to dance. I felt guilty at the time. You’d think that guilt would fade, but no: it sits there, inside, undiminished, a deep black stone. This is what society has wrought. Because society keeps expecting me to dance.

Oh, what’s that? Dance like no one’s watching? Imbecile. You fucking imbecile. I’m watching, even when I close my eyes. Watching and judging. My brain won’t wander away. It stands there with its arms folded, loudly asking me what the fuck me thinks it’s doing.

So you, at the party. Stop trying to make me dance. Cajoling. Bullying. Grabbing my arm and jerking me toward the dance floor. Do you want me to start crying? Sobbing in front of you? Is that what you want? How come this tyranny is socially acceptable?

I know the theory. They repeat it over and over: Hey, Grumpybones, just get on the dance floor. You’ll enjoy it once you’re on it.

I won’t. I’ll shift from foot to foot with the lumpen gracelessness of a deck chair unexpectedly granted the power of motion, worrying about what to do with my elbows and screaming in silence at the inside of my own face. You’ll enjoy yourself. I will not.

I know you’re worried about looking stupid, but, honestly, no one cares.

Thanks for the pep talk but I already look stupid. Sitting rigid at the periphery of the wedding, like an exile—I care about that.

Look! There’s even a guy in his seventies up there—terrible dancer, but by Christ he looks happy.

And I’d settle for that. I would. But it’s not going to happen. So go now. Leave me here to die.

Off they slink, radiating pity. And then they dance till four in the morning, guffawing like ancient kings. They’re lucky.

Society judges the dance-averse harshly. As party poopers. Sticks in the mud. Cowards. It doesn’t help that dancing is widely portrayed as the most life-affirming thing a human body can do short of giving birth. I know you haven’t sat through a TV ad in two years, but did you realize that ninety-five per cent of all commercials now depict overweight people dancing for comic effect?

Things are worse at the movies. C.G.I. animation is a wonderful thing, but, on the downside, it makes convincing dance moves comparatively simple to create. In 1967, Disney’s “Jungle Book” animators had to painstakingly craft the “I Wan’na Be Like You” routine by hand. These days, they synch their animation software with a Spotify account, hold down the function key, and count to five while it shits out an end-credits sequence in which a trio of lovable gophers triumphantly shake their rumps to “La Bamba.” I’d rather see a cartoon end with the Zapruder footage. At least then the kids would leave the auditorium in silence.

And not one of them would be dancing. Victory.

newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/16/ban-dancing

Gamergate related? He's mates with Graham Lineham (IT Crowd, Father Ted etc.) who despite his great body of work, is ultra-SJW'd.

Since he married the indian girl from Blue Peter, I'm telling you

>coördinate

Yep, that's the New Yorker alright. LOL. Fucking wankers.

>he wrote a funny piece for last week's The New Yorker
Are you going to post it?

>Glinners

I thought he was ok from all the intervies I had seen of him but then he went nuclear on that guy on twitter for saying season 3 of Father Ted was shit

No I don't give a shit about Gamergate. Immigration or Gay Marriage I think it was about that time.

Genuinely I don't remember I just remember it being more condescending than funny and a massive dissapointment.

The youtubers who shamelessly ape his style tend to be more funny now.