Let's talk about gun laws in our respective cunts, how bad you have it and how you think the laws could be improved.
I think that everyone should have the right to have the privilege to own firearms, I feel the same way towards guns as I do cars; they're useful and fun, but only if you prove yourself to be capable of handling them with necessary respect and proficiency. The system we have now is sort of like that, except that it's filled with unnecessary bureaucracy and arbitrary regulations. Too much may-issue, and too little shall-issue.
Then, as personal defense is inarguably a basic human right, concealed carry should be legal as it is in Estonia and Czechia. Then we should make fully automatic weapons achievable by normal people and not just collectors.
Can we have tanks to? Recently an old man here was busted for having a weapon cache from WW2. He had a functioning tank and those bastards took it away.
Oliver Moore
some kid from hickland finland is talking about guns, he
John Lee
Why not? What should be available to the military should be available to civillians.
People actually do own tanks and breech-loaded artillery and whatnot in here, it's just that collector's licenses are extremely hard to get.
I wish I was a hick, people are annoying and I like peace and quiet. Although the distance to nearest shop and pitsa joint would be a real pain in the middle of nowhere.
Colton Flores
No OP but I got 5 guns how about you mountain jew?
Everybody else, think about this: How many times have you been frisked for weapons by the cops? 0 times thats rite you can conceal your carry and nobody will be the wiser.
Juan Butler
>No OP but I got 5 guns how about you mountain jew? You the guy with the M92S, two shotguns and a klok?
Logan Scott
ppl are fucking stupid and guns are dangerous when used by stupid
you can get guns, its just strictly regulated yea its a basic human right to be safe, so we agree that the cops will carry them because stupid ppl will draw a gun on you over the tiniest issue
Owen Foster
nah mang i got: -Sako 85 (7.62*51) -Arsenal SAR M1 (7.62*39) -Sig Sauer M516 Patrol (5.56*45) -Saiga 12 (12 gauge) -Walther P99 (9*19)
Colton Bennett
I'm happy with mine. Never heard of anyone dying by gunshot.
Justin Myers
my neighbor has a 37mm bofors anti-tank cannon,fully operational and he has 2-3 shells for it too.
he bought it in sweden from a police auction with collectors licences.
Evan Martinez
Oh, I was thinking of somone else then. I have a Sako M92S, Daniel Defense M4V11 and Walther PPQ.
>yea its a basic human right to be safe, so we agree that the cops will carry them because stupid ppl will draw a gun on you over the tiniest issue Well you see, you shouldn't be forced to outsource your personal protection to anyone else. Remember, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
Also what you describe really doesn't happen. People don't pull guns on each other for no reason, because they don't really want to kill or seriously hurt anyone unless absolutely necessary, or at least can't be arsed to be tied down to annoying legal procedures and possibly lose their carry piece for the course of the investigation.
Asher Brooks
>guns no such thing.
Elijah Phillips
I feel so sorry for you, my slant-eyed brethren. Maybe one day the situation will improve, but nothing will happen if nobody speaks up.
Noah Martin
We fire lots of guns in the military. guns are for killing people in other countries not your own.
Jonathan Cook
We had a Supreme Court case in the United States where the ruling basically was that police don't have an obligation to protect citizens.
Sebastian Anderson
Wrong, guns are for everyone.
Also shooting in the army doesn't come close to having fun at an unsupervised range with your friends.
Aaron Fisher
I'm aware, and of course they don't. If they did, you could make the argument that they would be required by law to place the lives of someone else before their own, and that's just a mess of legal trouble and morally questionable.
Ryan Brown
It does. We barely have problems with guns and our homicide rate is lower than yours despite being sandniggers.
Luis Jackson
Yes, of course it does, if you ignore the fact that only law-abiding citizens are affected by the gun control.
You know the funny thing about law-abiding citizens, though? They don't shoot people.
Adam Peterson
r8 my gun.
Evan Torres
I hope that one day they'll repeal the 1939 control law and it's 1998 amendment. It's possible to have guns without a license (officially any pre-1900 gun and their replicas, but in practice it's only pre-1900 black powder guns and replicas, so you can't own a Lebel rifle or a Maxim machinegun despite them being older than 1900) and it's possible to obtain a license for some other categories (sport license for semi-auto rifles, hunter license for smoothbore rifles), but the gun control laws are just obsolete -- the 1939 one was meant to prevent the germans from getting guns from civilians that fled the battlefield and left their belongings, but the socialists who took power after the war decided to keep it (funnily enough those very same socialists claimed that they wanted to arm the people among other things to get elected in 1936).
Samuel Sullivan
dont worry mountain jew, the EU will eventually take them away.
only matter of time
Angel Parker
Is that airshit? Doesn't look like the real PX4.
Also some PDs in clapistan dropped theirs since the guns had some mechanical problems.
Chase Wright
Laser, night sight and 9mm. I approved.
t. Texas
Nathan Scott
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Adam Kelly
i always find the obsession with guns from guys who are actually small, non-fit, emasculated ones
why is this?
Julian Lee
t. noguns Tojo
arent you the same faggots that invented a holographic waifu inside a coffee maker?
Blake Russell
That's not a night sight, darling. That's a fibre optic, which doesn't illuminate, but will appear very bright in bright ambient light.
Brandon Russell
Hmm, I wonder why. It's really a mystery how half 90% of Clapistan, half of MountainJewia and a third of Mongolia (that's us!) are small, non-fit and emasculated.
Matthew Moore
>automatic weapons nuts, semiautomatic only so that crazies can't just hold down the trigger in a crowded place and even then, crazies will eventually be able to get guns legally and then USA 2.0 would happen
Luis Brown
Gun control isn't gonna work when you have no borders in schengen between multiple countries
Gun control is quite effective when you're a small island nation not in schengen desu
Evan Clark
>violence kingdom
Oliver Reyes
>Port Arthur massacre in 1996 >Conservative government enacts gun control laws >no massacres since hmmmm
Alexander Scott
>go to sako website >see this Euros have some of the best firearms manufactures and they can't even enjoy them.
Brody Cox
Wait finnies can own a m4 semi auto? The fuck.
Jaxson Parker
>Crazy Tasmanian kills his mam >Takes two semi-auto rifles to a town building >30 Headshots, beats America's high score >Liberal National Part take it as opportunity to oppress the people even further >If someone in Tassieland can kill, someone in NT or WA can kill blerggg >Could've just taken Tassies guns, but nooo, take all the guns
Fuck those liberals, I can't even own a blowgun or a crossbow in WA now
Nathan Ross
> only one gun store >the army can deny your permit if they feel like it > only small cal guns allowed > 200 rounds are the most you can own > nothing automatic > gun has to be pre 1900 to be consider historical > even those are a pain in the ass to get > dare to get gun 1 meter outside your home gets you federal jail > use your gun to legit self defence, you are now guilty until proven innocent and probably they wont sell you more ammo or guns ever again The wonders of life, I have a small .22 pistol
Kevin Richardson
It's great to see some euros who can enjoy (or at least partially enjoy after wading through government bullshit) gun ownership.
More power to you (the people of course).
Dylan Cruz
>Gun control works, guys!
it does, they got caught before they could even sell those weapon that by the way were shitty WW2 weapons.
in developed countries gun violence isn't a thing you could use many other forms of self defence that aren't lethal
Gabriel Stewart
>semiautomatic only so that crazies can't just hold down the trigger in a crowded place The real world isn't like the movies. A crazy guy using full auto would just spend his ammunition very quickly while missing his targets. Semi-auto is much more lethal for killing lots of people in a crowded place. The only reason the military uses full-auto at all is to make your enemy hide behind walls while you advance on his position.
Tyler Sanders
>only law-abiding citizens are affected by the gun control not really a legal market for guns means many, many more guns in black market circulation case in point: gangsters in the uk resort to using world war 2 weapons they find in their grandad's attic
Parker Williams
>Gun control is quite effective when you're a small island nation not in schengen desu Tell that to Puerto Rico and Taiwan
Robert Sanders
In my town, """gun violence""" isn't a thing either, and we have virtually no gun legislation... and then you have places like Chicago and DC. Really activates your almonds huh? >no gun violence Have you already forgotten the Paris massacre?
Jaxon Sanders
/k/ here. Freedom is really fucking fun.
Alexander Wilson
thats terrorism, we dont get shootings every month mind you not everything is banned, there are a few "hunting" stores in my town that sell stuff for fishing, boots, and some light weapons for hunting
William Allen
They work for peaceful people.
John Nelson
We have it pretty good. People seem to be mistaking our recent voting on changes over gun control though. But that's not your fault, every foreign article I've seen was saying something different.
EU wants to regulate gun more, we refused. They told us that we will have to do it, otherwise they can threathen us with sanctions. Our parlament will be voting on changes in the law, but not changing it. You see, EU has some control over laws of a member state, but their jurisdiction falls short concerning the constitution. We have one of the most free gun laws in Europe and we want to USA style copypaste it into our constitution so they can't do anything about it.
Benjamin Sullivan
>What should be available to the military should be available to civillians. How about Military Tribunals?
Jordan Sanders
That is absolutely beautiful.
Matthew Evans
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Nathaniel Butler
Forgot pic
Logan Sullivan
What are you trying to prove? I don't see guns or shooting mentioned anywhere in these statistics. What you're missing here is the demographic component and as Europe gets more "diverse" the crime will increase as well.
Christian Parker
So more diversity = more deaths? Sorry but that's a nonsense. You can even see the Iron Curtain in the map. Russia is very homogeneous like the south of Italy or the south of Portugal. Isn't there any state in the USA where whites are the overwhelming majority?
Aaron Walker
But you won't.
Nolan Morales
>Russia is homogenous
Gabriel Butler
Well, yes you have chechens, chinks and that sort of things but I'm sure that western Russia is very homogeneous and you can see how the violence is a problem there
Angel Cruz
I have yet to understand the idea that crime just multiplies by a factor of sixty whenever a population isn't all the same skin colour and background, that burgers so often espouse. I think it's just a bullshit claim to excuse all of Americas crime, a.la "Just ignore the blacks", or a really weak argument for ethno-nationalism.
Hudson White
It's 50/50 honestly.
Elijah Thompson
Instead they die by crushing depression due to years of virginity.
Easton Cox
But it works here.
Nicholas James
>Implying there is a large difference in rates after you go below 5 people in 100K.
Austin Garcia
If that makes you feel better... As we say in Spain ''sarna con gusto no pica''. If you want guns, have guns. But then, when a crazy guy kills 30 students in a highschool don't cry
Mason Sullivan
Whether gun control works or not is irrelevant. My guns haven't killed anyone, so keep your fucking hands off of them.
Jaxson Kelly
I don't really care about the issues that much. We have more important matter like fucked up healthcare
Robert Morgan
Indeed, the atomic waste I stole didn't kill anyone. Keep your hands off it!
Eli Sullivan
Indeed, the 30kg of C4 I put into a jacket ready to go off when I pull a string didn't kill anyone! Keep your hands off it!
Sebastian Phillips
The Netherlands is pretty safe, so I do believe gun control works. But I wouldnt mind if people were able to buy a handgun for self defence and open carry (so the police knows you're armed).
Juan Johnson
Indeed, I want to be able to carry a rocket launcher too for self defence!
James Green
If we enact tough gun control then cops shouldnt be able to carry either and should just have to rely on non lethal tactics
Nathan Robinson
Realistically there are no criminal threats that require one.
Colton Morgan
I also would like to drive around a small nuclear warhead launcher. Just in case someone tries to kill me with a drone from a couple of kilometres away!
Isaac Ward
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Easton Phillips
If someone tries to run me over with a truck?
Aaron Sullivan
Ok, just get your own truck.
Carter Parker
I can't drive that around during a Christmas market in the city centre or during a firework show.
James Anderson
guns>healthcare
Michael Evans
breddy gud. lowest homicide rate in europe as well behind iceland
Nathan Thompson
We should ban firework shows and Christmas markets because they are too dangerous.
Camden Powell
Not if you got a rocket launcher silly
Anthony Robinson
We should also ban schools, stores, public transport and city centres in general.
Ryan Martin
Sounds good to me. I order my stuff from bol.com anyway.
Logan Evans
Indeed, just sit inside with a rocket launcher.
Nathaniel James
Just ban trucks then.
Zachary Butler
With a kroket luncher.
Kevin Peterson
Yes, and cars, trains, busses, motorcycles, metros, trams. Just in case bicycles.
But we should legalise tanks of course. For self defense.
James Butler
look up the statistics, black people are 13%~ of the population but make up well over 50% of all violent crime.
you can make a good argument for poorness is a more contributing factor but i counter with black people glorify and see crime as a way out of poverty and shun education.
They got fucked by slavery and racism, but have done literally nothing to better themselves since then.
Luke Collins
look up the statistics, males are 50%~ of the population but make up well over 80% of all violent crime.
you can make a good argument for testeron is a more contributing factor but i counter with males glorify and see crime as a way out of frustration and depression
They got fucked by sexism and male role modals, but have done literally nothing to better themselves since then.
Adam Barnes
>arranging your weapons on tables Absolute god-tier taste
Liam Collins
>owns guns >hasn't killed anyone
why even own guns
Samuel Thomas
Why not a Crockett launcher?
Luis Adams
Actually, low IQ correlates with criminality, and blacks are simply less intelligent than whites. Low IQ also correlates with poor living conditions, which also contributes to the problem.
Not to derail my own thread or anything.
Elijah Murphy
Because it's better to have and not need than need and not have. But mostly because shooting is fun, and government has no business dictating what I can and cannot own.