Hey Gimli I know your cousin awoke a Balrog and probably got killed along with thousands of your people

>Hey Gimli I know your cousin awoke a Balrog and probably got killed along with thousands of your people
>But I won't tell you or even give you a warning before entering an underground city filled with their decaying bodies

Why was Gandalf so based?

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> I didn't think it would end this way.

>End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.

He didn't know about the Balrog in the book and didn't know for sure that the dwarves had been wiped out, only that contact had been lost with them. There's a reason he didn't want to go down there.

he could have told them at least this much, right?

He just hated dwarves

He could have. Moria had already been wiped out before though, before Balin recaptured it, so really it's Gimli either being in denial or being a dumbshit.

Why didn't Sauron just fly the Balrog into Minas Tirith?

They literally are the worst species. Smelly, dirty and loud

See what, gandalf?

Balrogs don't answer to bitch niggas like Sauron.

and jewish

b/c Balrog is Sauron's superior, ruler supreme

Gandalf was a manipulative bastard. He would make everyone do his bidding whatever the outcome. Even if it means someone end up being sad or lots of people dying. I think he just wanted people suffering deep inside. He is basically playing god who puts people through really mean tests and watch them if they can prevail. Thats why he didnt take eagles to mordor or use excessive magic. Not because he can't use magic but because its not his war to win. He wanted to do the things hard way.

Something that I always wonder did the orcs inside Moria were different kind of orcs?

White shores.

And beyond...a far green country, unto a swift sunrise.

Goblins

They were "goblins", which are basically orcs that are stunted and have big eyes for seeing in the dark. They were the creepy underground orcs.

I always thought they were goblins

That doesnt sound so bad...

He was a wizard jbr

No...

No it isn't.

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Is this bait?

Bitch, he turned down the Ring. If he wanted everyone to do his bidding, he could have the moment Frodo told him to take it. He wouldn't have been a slave to Sauron or nothing, he would have been a monstrous overlord.

He also DOES have highly limited magic, which he DID use extensively.

If Gandalf hadn't fallen, would the Balrog have kept following the Ring? Or would he not even give a shit about the Ring, and just start destroying all live in Middle-Earth?

most retarded post ive seen on Sup Forums all day

Yeah, I'm no expert in Tolkien lore but didn't the god of their universe put the five wizards there more to guide the world against evil than to just have them save the world themselves?

This would have been a problem if anybody else could find a solution to their problems
Everywhere they go ,
>what do we do, gandalf?
>Whats happening, Gandalf?
>boy I wish Gandalf were here

Quads confirm
>Heaven is for real

What if the Watcher in the Water had taken the ring (which it certainly meant to do seen as it attacked Frodo first out of the group)?

Then if Sauron is technically weaker, why didn't Gandalf just bitch slapped him?

>Balrog is Sauron's superior
No it's the other way round

He wanted that little mountain jew to suffer.

his cousin didn't awake the balrog. the dwarves that built moria did

His bidding is not power. His will is to watch people go through ordeals while there is a super easy way.

How are you liking that soundtrack, anons?

Legolas calls them goblins.

Yes, If I recall correctly even Saruman who got corrupted was pretty nerfed.

Well, I mean, that user is retarded, but Gandalf WAS a manipulative bastard. The War of the Ring was largely won because of Gandalf's machinations behind the scenes over many, many years.

I suppose it depends on how you look at it. Wormtongue certainly capitalized on Gandalf's reputation as a manipulator to turn minds against him, people definitely saw him in that light. Gandalf presumably saw himself more as a teacher and guide, who tried to point the mortal leaders in the right direction, and if that required the occasional deception, well, that wasn't so bad, was it?

>Falls into an abyss.
>Ends up on top of a mountain with a bilzzard going on at the bottom.
How?

In the book its explained that after landing, he and the balrog fight to the top of a mountain peak, which is where we rejoin them.

Landing? How could they survive the fall?

Even in the movie, it clearly shows them landing in a lake.

Also, these are divine beings.

>supposed to be ridiculously powerful
>fights with a sword

why was gandalf such a talentless hack?

Gandalf was only allowed to guide the human race, not do the job for them. Also, I don't believe the Balrog was stronger than Sauron, or Gandalf stronger than Sauron.

wasnt sauron pretty weak without muh ring

>It clearly shows them landing in a lake.
Wasn't that just Frodo dreaming?

>comes back to life after he dies

did you retards even watch the film or read the books

In the books, Gandalf is way less 'with it', especially in Fellowship. He's a rambling old man that gets angry easily at anyone and is easily confused.

There's a stairway leaving all the way through the mountain from the bottom.

>did you retards even watch the film or read the books
Yes and no.

Goatse

It was long-term trolling by Gandalf that his name revealed when rearranged.

Gandalf->Anal-Lag

Effectively, long-term trolling butthurt such was the genius of Gandalf.

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The dream was a vision.

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>all turns to silver glass
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No, everyone else is retarded. All orcs in Tolkien are goblins and vice versa. The standard soldiers in Moria are the same as the ones in Mordor. The Uruk Hai are just super goblins. Orc just isn't used in The Hobbit because no one knew what the fuck an orc was, he makes this clear in the foreword.

then what are those little guys that serve the hobbit king? lesser goblins?

Yeah but there are divisions, even in the books. The orcs that come from Minas Morgul are considered different than the ones from Barad-dur. In the movies they just accentuate the differences with physical characteristics, and draw separations between Uruk-hai, different types of orcs, and then goblins