I'm a Muslim ask me anything.
Remember we don't need to pray all day everyday to be muslims the same way you don't need to go to church 24/7 to be Christian.
Let's have a good discussion and avoid buzzword filled questions.
I'll answer to trolls within reason.
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Ok lets sort this out once and for all. Was Muhammad a pedo or not?
No
>he married a 9 year old girl
Why are you part of a religion that clearly wants you dead for being a massive faggot?
Don't worry, OP. I respect your religion. Unless of course you're one of those nuts on the radical end of the spectrum who for whatever reasons feels the need to murder innocent people in other countries (and yours) who are just minding their own business. If you're that kind, then fuck off.
No you can't blow up Sup Forums
How devoted is a Muslim who straight up puts down their prayer rug in Walmart to worship? I saw that the other day
not op but that means nothing, he might be the shittiest muslim on earth.
christian doctrine commands you to attend church on the Sabbath. don't use hyperbole in the same breath you use to ask not to be trolled.
furthermore, if a christian raised individual doesn't follow this command they certainly are not christian and probably don't want to be identified that way.
your religion is fake and gay. what do you tell yourself to believe otherwise?
Quad dubs waddup
(OP)
> I am Muslim by what is required by the Q'ran and the Q'ran is what is important.
But OP, I asked if people who commit apostasy (leaving islam) should be killed and you replied: no.
I asked you if people who do not pray 5 times daily should be burnt as the prophet asked to be done, and you replied: no.
Basically, you disagree with the words of the prophet, and you disagree with the words of the quran.
Therefore, you cannot be a "muslim by what is required by the Q'ran and the Q'ran is what is important" as you say you are.
OP, care to comment?
She had gone through puberty.
nice trips.
He married her at 6.
It doesn't.
nice dubs. I am not. Read the thread and you'll see my views.
Ok.
user answered you well.
True.
My statement still stands.
nice get on his part.
Still wanna fuck you
>6 year old
Makes it even worse. You worship a pedophile.
We dont worship the prophet, and as mentioned, she had gone through pubreity.
Where do you live? and are you white?
Why you guys keep blowing shit up ? Can't you stop ? It's a bit annoying.
>justifying raping a child by saying "no no its ok, they already went through puberty"
>this logic is pedophilia
muslims misquote 5:32 on purpose,
it applies to children of Israel
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>My statement still stands
nooo faggot, no it doesn't. if you wanna discuss then do it nigger. i say if you don't follow your doctrine then why even call yourself by that label? either you believe it or you don't. these organizations do not tolerate middle ground.
How do you define a child ?
>we dont worship the prophet
>we just refuse to let anyone enter his house
>or draw a picture of him
>or refute his words in the Quran
>The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as "a human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier". This is ratified by 192 of 194 member countries. In U.S. Immigration Law, a child refers to anyone who is under the age of 21.
Like this.
OP is not even muslim and pray everyday is compulsory, not your choice unlike christians.
Shame on you.
Go fuck a pig muzzie subhuman
I dont know if the first one is true but regardless, not letting someone into your house doesnt mean that we worship him (assuming its true)
We dont draw pictures of him so that people dont worship them and change the way they look closer to him.
The quran says to listen to whatever the prophet pbuh says.
Anyway, Im done responding, you guys give cancer with the sheer amount of idiocy, Its just too tiring.
You can be muslim and not pray, you are simply a bad muslim.
Mate is there anyway to contact you outside of here ? An email maybe ?
Conveniently enough, this is why beautiful 16 year olds are called "jailbait". Because they are considered children in the eyes of the law, and its illegal to fuck a child.
You forgot to tag me but whatever, what if my country defined a child as being someone who is under 16 ?
Do they really teach how to get passed airport security, hijack a plane, and crash it into buildings in mosques? I heard that from a Muslim I knew
Then your country condones pedophilia because a pedophile said it was OK 2K years ago.
Let me correct you.
You're simply a NON muslim.
(OP's faggotry over 9000).
Who is this and do you have more? I don't want to google.
There are many rules in the Q'ran, some which oppose each other depending on circumstance and situation.
To be a Muslim by definition you must adhere to the ten commandments and the five pillars of Islam.
The rest can be interpreted in a large variety of ways making it less important. Different denominations of Islam interpret these laws in different ways.
Consider, the different sects and interpretations of Islam that have existed since ancient times.
Not me in these pictures.
They were married, they did not have sex at that age.
Is Reza Aslan an apostate/heretic and should he be stoned?
so a ton of eu countries are pro-pedophilia ?
I aint op
No, he just waited a few years until she had gone through puberty. He fucked her when she was 9.
>this is not helping your case in the slightest
Do you ever get tired of posting this bait thread, is it just you who posts it?
I'd really like to see a source to the claim that most countries in the EU define "child" differently. Especially since the definition I just posted says that over 190 countries ratified that definition.
>She had gone through puberty.
nice try.
Wikipedia is best source
ec.europa.eu
>As laid down in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC), a child is any human being below the age of 18. Children make up one third of the world's population and one fifth of the population of the EU.
>Children's rights form part of the human rights that the EU and EU countries must respect.
I.e. every country in the European Union must, by law, use this definition of "child".
The age of consent for many countries in the eu is much lower than 18 and the age of drinking and the age of driving is much much lower than 18 in a ton of eu countries, and thats what you guys define as a child since the only thing you get when you turn 18 is driving and beer and voting, while 21 simply gains you heavier drinks, so not being a child means those things.
try again.
Why is under 18 a child ?
what are you going to do when this man becomes President and sends your ass back to Whocaresistan?
Because 192 countries said so, you fucking retard.
In that case
>en.wikipedia.org
The lowest age of consent in ANY European country is 14. I.e. 5 years OLDER than mohammads wife at the time he fucked her.
By basically every modern standard, Mohammad is a pedophile. In over 200 different countries.
Exactly.
I am from Morocco, I currently live in Canada. I am olive skinned. Slightly tanned. I do not consider myself a visible minority in the census.
nice dubs. Not me. I wish they would stop as well.
So much buzzword. Please let's have a real adult discussion. Pick one theme.
The problem is that you are not asking questions, or discussing anything that I can respond to. I am Muslim because I adhere to the ten commandments and the five pillars of Islam. Therefore, I am Muslim. I follow my doctrine more closely than 99% of Muslims.
Muslims do not worship any of the prophets. Including Jesus, Moses, Abraham, and all others.
Where is the prophet's house?
Drawing the prophet is forbidden because it is idolatry. It shadows the message of the prophet in light of his image.
The Q'ran is the word of God not the prophet.
Canada defines a child as less than 16. So who is right?
I pray five times a day, this totals about an hour. Thus, not all day every day. Why do people have a hard time understanding that?
No thanks.
I'd prefer not to for obvious reasons.
Not in many Western countries.
Of course not. My Imam is a astronomer, he does not know anything about security checks, crime and the latter. The police would arrest any Imam that preaches such acts. Your friend is playing you like a fool.
Many Western countries have the age of consent at 16.
Why is it that people like to tell others what they are? Especially considering you have no idea what a Muslim is or is not.
Why is it that because I don't fit your cookie cutter mold of what a Muslim is, I cannot be Muslim? Why is it that your definition of who is Muslim is the one that is correct?
Well Spain is 12 if you count them as euro, and they had recently raised it I think.
>To be a Muslim by definition you must adhere to the ten commandments and the five pillars of Islam.
This is a lie.
Quran 4:65—But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.
>Canada defines a child as less than 16
>8 years older than Mohammads wife
>Who is right?
Everyone except Mohammad. He is a pedophile by over 200 countries definitions of the word. And the only countries that condone fucking anyone YOUNGER than 14 are the muslim ones.
>not in many western countries
Actually yes, in basically all of them.
>Many Western countries have the age of consent at 16
>8 years older than Mohammads wife
So many western countries define Mohammad AS A PEDOPHILE, YOU FUCKING RETARD.
Not even OP or a Muslim, but how does that disprove him?
>avoid buzzword filled questions
Could this be more obvious sjw/whiteknight bait?
Be a moslem follow commandments.
> incorrect. It's significantly more than that.
remember islam means "submit" submit to the will of allah and the judgment of mohammed. It's not candy coated as OP suggests nor is is similar to christianity, as OP is trying to imply.
I don't know either unfortunately.
No he should not be stoned. Reza Aslan is an academic who does academic research. Let God judge him when it is time.
As long as he does not commit any crimes he should be free to act in his own regard.
There is no age given in the Q'ran. It was when Mohammed and Aisha went migrated to Mecca.
Sunnis, I am Sunni, believe she was 9. However, she had still gone through puberty.
Philosophy, religion and the like are my number one pass time aside from my work. I post these threads because I am procrastinating from writing my thesis. I get bored about writing the same thing all day.
Really?
en.wikipedia.org
Just Google it yourself next time.
Yup.
I'm currently in Canada so he won't be sending me anywhere.
If I did live in the USA, I would simply go back to China, they pay very well too for what i do. I only came to Canada because I prefer to values of the country.
How do you feel about Sharia law Op
Why did they say so ? you are currently appealing to authority, a known fallacy.
Its 14 because thats when people go through puberity there, back then people went through it much earlier.
Right so forget email, any way to contact ?
>The Q'ran is the word of God not the prophet.
kek
I dont have to, kiddo. I googled it for YOU in the first place.
If you're gonna answer this question don't attach a naked woman picture.
Why are you trying to bait us and give bad image on islam OP?
If you're serious you wouldn't believe first hadith you see (and most TYPICAL), concerning Aisha's marriage, you're forgetting lot of things.
The question: What is your actual attitude toward bani umayya?
allahu snackbar!
>fallacy
You have no idea what that word means, do you habeeb?
I've given you source after source, telling you that the rest of the world considers your blessed prophet a fucking pedophile. All you've done is say, "y-yeah but muh puberty".
>no one is using the phrase puberty when defining a child
>except muslim shitholes like yours
Last thread someone claimed OP was part of the JIDF. I thought the JIDF was into the cuck threads, but who knows.
Why are people trying to apply modern standads about the age of consent to a dude in the year 600, thats not how it works?
no wonder 4chans so fucked up im surrounded by muslims
nice trips. That is correct. Only raised in 2015 to 16.
Lol did you understand that quote? It has nothing to do with what we are talking.
By 2016 standards. Because what is needed for an individual to be considered to be an adult has changed. We can't become self-sustaining adults by 13 anymore. Even 4 generations ago this was still possible.
It's called an intellectual thread. Where we use real arguments rather than one liners devoid of any thought.
One of the pillars of Islam is submission to God. Therefore, by adhering to the five pillars of Islam you adhere to the submissiveness of one in the glory of God.
Islam stems from Christianity and has more than 95% similarity. I've studied both religions extensively.
Yeah, it IS how it works if people are using the actions of a dude in the year 600 to justify pedophilia today, in the year of our lord 2016.
Because the word of god shouldn't be mutable, and therefore neither should morality.
Here you go mate.
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So let me try this again, without using the above argument, why is someone under the age of 18 called a child ?
>There are many rules in the Q'ran, some which oppose each other depending on circumstance and situation.
Like how the sword verses are eternal because they abrogate the earlier peaceful verses.
While a moslem is not wrong for being peacful, they certainly aren't more correct than the jihadi. After all, He who meets Allah without the mark of Jihad, meets him with a defect. (Oh and jihad doesn not mean "internal struggle" as the moslem liar would try to make you believe.
Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost: for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds.
Religion is bullshit used to make money. Biggest scam and most successful scam in history
The argument starts here. Go ahead and read it again, sounds like you didn't even bother the first time around.
Please spell it out for me, Im dumb like that.
OP should be gassed with mustard gas.
Joos red alert.
>Islam stems from Christianity
The core of the myth is told in the Koran about how Adam built the Kabah at Mecca. It was the first house of worship. Then Abraham brought Ishmael to Mecca, prepared to perform the sacrifice demanded by God. Ishmael was left in Mecca with his mother, Hagar.
Mohammed uses this myth to tie in the Arabs to the Jews. It was part of his early attempt to prove his prophet-hood by his being an inheritor of the Jewish tradition.
But the story of Arabs being the children of Ishmael and Abraham does not match with actual history. We find in the Sira a very detailed history of Mecca at the time of Mohammed right down to the names of individuals, their children and wives. Arabs were very keen on family relationships. A person’s very name gave you his father’s or son’s name and a chain of relationships. One of the things that infuriated the Meccans about Mo- hammed was that he said their ancestors were in Hell because they were not Muslims.
There must be a thousand names in the Sira and not a single person in Mohammed’s Arabia is named Abraham, Ishmael, or Hagar. Not one. Why? They had no knowledge about any relationship between the Arabs and Abraham. The Arabs were deeply into genealogy and they knew of the Jews and Abraham, but they made no claim of kinship with their names. It was Mohammed who created the myth that all Arabs had blood ties to the Jews through Ishmael. Only after Mohammed did Jewish names become common amongst Arabs.
Do you pray five times a day? If you don't you're as bad as the kufar ya brother.
>by 2016 standards you're living in the past and calling us infidels for evolving past this barbaric mentality
ftfy. you fuck children, and use the logic of a pedophile who lived 2K years ago to justify why you continue to do it today. you're entire religion is stuck 2K years in the past.
Hahaha you stole that dubs bundy faggots quad dubs.
He already said he did, bait elsewhere.
>The problem is that you are not asking questions that I can respond to
there is a question in both posts. I submit you cant respond to them because you don't have a good answer. the first one is still "why would you believe this nonsense?" You told us in your faggoty OP that you did not adhere to the doctrines just as other faithful people do not adhere to theirs. are you saying now that you do? or at least 99% of them putting your muslim brothers down as you proclaim this?
If you haven't noticed half the post in this thread are debating at what age its ok to start fucking children. Here's a third question for ya. this ones an easy one now. don't freak out: Is your belief system the one true and only correct belief system?
Mary was 14 when she became pregnant with Jesus but no one gives shut over that, and lots of messed up situations happen in the Old Tesament. Idk, I'm an athiestfag, just thought this thread would be more interesting if we asked questions rather than tring to charge mohamed with stat rape 1400 years after the case.
Are you now or have you ever been a member of an organization deemed a terrorist group by a Western government?
oh look it's this thread again... fuck off dude it's the 5th one today
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also am muslim. more focused on tryna revive grunge..
Sharia is a good thing in general, however the interpretation of some of the rules and punishments should be done with modern contexts.
Steam lol?
There is really no discussing with people like you. Spain is a European country, age of consent 16. Spanish Criminal Code Article 183.
Before judging what kind of image I am portraying understand that these are my opinions and interpretations. Secondly, understand that my opinions and stances are well researched academically and through religious schools of thought throughout the world in many mosques, in many continents and countries. Lastly, I have studied philosophy and religion (many different ones) congruently with my field of work throughout my life. I have experience.
I invite you to read my responses and get to know me before judging me.
I know a lot about the history of Aisha's marriage. What I stated is accurate. I stated that the actual age is unknown but according to belief by Sunni's she was 9. This is a fact. Sunnis believe she was 9.
I had to Google who that was. I have no particular opinion.
People love making defamatory comments because they realize I do not fit their mold. Plasticity of the brain takes energy that some people are not used to using.
nice dubs. Surprised? Islam is the 2nd largest religion.
>gone through puberty
>6 years old
top fucking kek
Oh gawd, you're going to get the Trump dick riding war Hawks fired up now. Thx.
WOW, you mean Mary was 8 YEARS OLDER THAN AISHA WHEN MOHAMMAD FUCKED HER?!
So even using the standards of Jesus' day (i.e. the same time Mohammad lived), he's STILL considered a pedophile. Thanks for clearing that one up, user.
I guess, heres my steam : steamcommunity.com
the riffs imams are able to do while reciting quran are more soulful than gospel riffs and tonality. fucking beautiful
>steamcommunity.com
That was unwise OP
>Lol did you understand that quote? It has nothing to do with what we are talking.
You can pray all you want, follow or not follow commandments but as Allah says, you have no faith (you are not a moslem) until you make mohammed judge in all things.
>for those who don't know, mohammed is the perfect example of a moslem, says Allah, so whatever mohammed said, or did, or said a moslem should do, id perfect and well studied and written down. Mohammed is the guide for moslem life.
So mohammed fucks 9 year old girls, then it's cool.
So mohammed says fighting (as in fighting) is prescribed for you, then fighting is prescribed.
So mohammed says he wishes he could be martyred for allah, rise up and be martyred again, and be martyred for allah and rise up and be martyred again, then buddy you best get to fighting and being martyred.
I aint op, and they cant do shit with my steam.
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SuckMeSideways Sep 23, 2015 @ 11:37am
Forgot to say, he's one of them fucking anime freaks, into henti and all that shit. Needs shooting.
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This person, if you can call it that, is just the most vile sick twisted thing to exist combined with the fact that it is a cheater also.. avoid it like the plague or in fact more than the plague that would be better for you than 40 minutes in a game of CS or Dota with this.
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>this is good stuff, brony
I have no idea how you're missing the point this hard, unless you're actively trying to.
You cannot justify fucking a 9 year old using this logic. You need to rethink your approach. Everyone EXCEPT Muslims agree on this definition. YOU are the odd ones out. 200 countries define your prophet as a pedophile, and you have not done a damn thing to prove it wrong. All you've done is walk yourself in circles and throw your hands up when you run out of shit to throw at the wall.
>Spain is a European Country
I know this because I told you that earlier.
>Age of consent is 16
I know this because I told you that earlier too. And 16 is STILL 8 years OLDER than Mohammads wife was. So using ANY European country to justify your stance is 100% fallacious. Everyone but you agrees that under the age of 14 IS A CHILD.
Congratulations, you've discovered that extremism is the endpoint of logic. Shall we commence stabbing each other to death until we're homogeneous again now?
I don't know, it depends. Did you kill or rape me BEFOREHAND? Because THEN the answers yes, apparently.
Right, because as we all know, people dont lie or rage on steam.
Regardless, I could remove these any time but I had hoped people would see the comedy in them.
Also, yes I cheated in 1.6 because I was bored.